Author Topic: George Zimmerman - Attorneys release pictures from Trayvon Martin's cellphone  (Read 30067 times)

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Dude what are we still talking about..Trayvon Martin took a picture with a gun, Smoked weed at 16, ate skittles and drank juice, if that isnt behavior that warrents Death, i dont know what is. 

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Dude what are we still talking about..Trayvon Martin took a picture with a gun, Smoked weed at 16, ate skittles and drank juice, if that isnt behavior that warrents Death, i dont know what is. 


Sounds just like potus.

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oh you mean GWB....oh yeah that was getting drunk and doing Coke...and cheerleading

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oh you mean GWB....oh yeah that was getting drunk and doing Coke...and cheerleading

Yup him too.   Tray on was just another ghetto thug heading for prison or cemetery.

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What if ashtrayvon were a Muslim? 
I would still argue the same based on the circumstances.  I don't have a problem with Muslims per se.  My issue is with Islam. Even if the Muslim was a_ahmed, a particular Muslim I do indeed despise (but not because he is a Muslim, but the fact he is an unreasonable, ridiculous and deeply ignorant human being), I would still defend his right to walk down to the shops and purchase some iced tea and skittles and then to walk home again without being gunned down.
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Dude what are we still talking about..Trayvon Martin took a picture with a gun, Smoked weed at 16, ate skittles and drank juice, if that isnt behavior that warrents Death, i dont know what is. 
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Zimmerman's attorney's got shot down today....judge put an end to the bullshit by prohibiting his text, photo, etc to the public.


But then, he makes a request to have all of the jury members photographed and sequestered.......judge also shot down of course.....Pretty sad how they are now trying to intimidate the upcoming  jury
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Zimmerman's attorney's got shot down today....judge put an end to the bullshit by prohibiting his text, photo, etc to the public.


But then, he makes a request to have all of the jury members photographed and sequestered.......judge also shot down of course.....Pretty sad how they are now trying to intimidate the upcoming  jury
Important rulings made today:
-A motion to delay the trial was denied. The trial will begin on June 10.
-Martin's alleged marijuana use will not be mentioned in trial.
-Martin's text messages before his death cannot be used.
-Martin's school records and history of fighting can be mentioned outside of opening statements.
-Shellie Zimmerman can be deposed by the state, but she will be able to invoke her Fifth Amendment right on a question-by-question basis.
-Neither side can mention social media info in opening statements. It must pass authentication to be admissible in court.
-Marijuana in Martin's system can't be allowed in opening statements. Nelson will determine if it can be used in trial.
-The court will not sequester the entire jury pool. Jurors will remain anonymous during the trial.
-The jury will not view the shooting scene in person.
-A state motion for a gag order has been denied.
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I can't wait till Zimmerpig is convicted.

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But then, he makes a request to have all of the jury members photographed and sequestered.......judge also shot down of course.....Pretty sad how they are now trying to intimidate the upcoming  jury

yeah, i was surprised by that.  Is the evidence so damning that this is his only move?  Or is this lawyer just amateur hour here?

I could just hear it over and over during the trial "How can YOU face your community after convicting a hero?  They know your name, you are accountable", etc.  Intimidating and really rather rare.  I was wondering why he took that approach.

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I can't wait till Zimmerpig is convicted.

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isnt he hispanic
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you must be torn then

Yes, I'm losing sleep. Ha.
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So are you....epic self hate.
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trayvon was a thug who got what he deserved.

Agreed.

The good news in all of this is that no matter if Zimmerman is convicted, Martin will never be able to live the life we all know awaited him.

Drug dealing, robbery, assault, rape, etc.

Good riddance.

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This kid was gonna grow up and end up in jail anyways and cost us tax dollars.

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This kid was gonna grow up and end up in jail anyways and cost us tax dollars.
Just like George.  I suppose tax dollars are better spent on a kiddy fiddling, woman beating, police assaulting vigilante sociopathic bully.
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Just like George.  I suppose tax dollars are better spent on a kiddy fiddling, woman beating, police assaulting vigilante sociopathic bully.
Don't be so hard on yourself, psycho.
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He had strawberry-flavored tea and Skittles because those are the ingredients for "lean", along with Robitussin cough syrup.

"Trayvon, in fact, had become a devotee of the druggy concoction known as "Lean," also known in southern hip-hop culture as "Sizzurp" and "Purple Drank."  Lean consists of three basic ingredients -- codeine, a soft drink, and candy.  If his Facebook postings are to be believed, Trayvon had been using Lean since at least June 2011."  



i still think trayvon is to blame, but you're grasping at straws here. nothing about having tea or skittles is illegal, or even DXM which is completely legal to buy in any quantity. only the codeine is illegal without a prescription, which as far as we know, he didn't have in his possession. also it's not like the drink carries any further penalties than the codeine itself.

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Zimmerman was the one who created a self defense situation, no doubt.  I wouldn't hesitate if I felt threatened to take the initiative if I felt I was being followed and I was exposed to an assault.  And if following someone isn't illegal, it should be.  I can't think of any good reason why someone would want to follow someone else.  It's obviously a provocative act.  I'm pretty sure the LAW refers to it as stalking.  And who's to say George Zimmerman didn't try and detain Trayvon thereby creating a confrontation.  He definitely indicated he didn't want this guy to get away. he already had the cavalry on it's way, he had a gun on him, he was confident the guy was up to no good.  I have no doubt George tried to detain Trayvon, and it went awry.  

And even if Trayvon was the one who initiated the conflict.  The immediate question would be WHY?  The only reasonable answer to this is that Georges suspicious actions led him to feel threatened.  If you are going to put fear into other people either by stalking or acting suspicious, it is only reasonable to assume they may be out to harm you.  That is the whole basis of stand your ground, if you have a reasonable fear that someone is going to harm you then you can do whatever it takes to prevent them from doing so.  I find it perfectly reasonable that Georges actions caused a teenage boy to feel afraid for his well being and I wouldn't have a problem with someone taking pre-emptive action in such a circumstance.  As it turned out, Trayvon had every right to fear George, he ended up being his killer.  George created a threatening situation that gave someone else little choice but to react to it, the only person standing there ground was Trayvon.

Like I said, when I am out walking if someone was following me, I would find this highly suspicious, why else would someone want to follow you other than to harm you.  I can't think of any good reason to follow any stranger.  And the very last thing I would do if I suspected someone was up to no good is to follow them.  Why on earth would anybody risk a confrontation with someone who was up to no good.  Not that I believe Trayvon initiated the assault, but if someone was following me and I felt threatened, I wouldn't hesitate to assault the person.  You don't get a second chance in dangerous situations to make a different choice.  

The whole situation seems absurd to me, I live in a Country where the mere carrying of a weapon in public will see you locked away for a long time, let alone playing neighbourhood watchmen.  Even that concept of civilian watchmen is bizarre, that's why we have a Police force.  Over here, if people have any issues they ring the Police.  What good can a watchmen do against serious criminals, and as this case highlights, it actually increases the potential for criminality.  

And Georges reasoning for suspecting Trayvon in the first place is borderline schizophrenic.  He said "It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about" and "looking at all the houses".  How that translates to suspicious behaviour is beyond me, what does he expect someone to do whenever caught in the rain, start sprinting and look directly at the ground.  I could think of anything more normal when walking than looking about.  You have to look somewhere, and other than looking at your feet as you were walking, there would be no way Trayvon could have not been looking at the houses as he walked by them.  It's more than likely George is an extremely paranoid individual, exacerbated by powerful psychiatric drugs and exposure to some recent criminal activity that led him to distort reality.  George had a history of regularly ringing 911 (about 50 times apparently), and he would report children as young as 7 that were simply riding their bikes.  None of Georges emergency calls ever led to the discovery of a single crime.

you might have a point, but i still think that unless zimmerman acted in a threatening manner, trayvon was the one who initiated the self-defense situation. as far as i know, simply following someone isn't a stand-your-ground situation, there has to be reasonable belief that your life was in danger, as in someone verbally threatening you (at the very least) or acting in an aggressive manner. zimmerman should not have followed trayvon, but assuming that's all he did, i don't think trayvon had the right to attack him. but yes zimmerman seems to have a pretty unstable history, but so does trayvon. bad situation all around, i guess.

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This kid was gonna grow up and end up in jail anyways and cost us tax dollars.

You seriously think that this would probably have happened if he'd lived?  Why?  Are either of his parents in jail now or ever been to jail in the past?  (I really don't know.)

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You seriously think that this would probably have happened if he'd lived?  Why?  Are either of his parents in jail now or ever been to jail in the past?  (I really don't know.)
He would have. All the signs pointed to him being a part of the black thug culture.

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Zimmerman was the one who created a self defense situation, no doubt.  I wouldn't hesitate if I felt threatened to take the initiative if I felt I was being followed and I was exposed to an assault.  And if following someone isn't illegal, it should be.  I can't think of any good reason why someone would want to follow someone else.  It's obviously a provocative act.  I'm pretty sure the LAW refers to it as stalking.  And who's to say George Zimmerman didn't try and detain Trayvon thereby creating a confrontation.  He definitely indicated he didn't want this guy to get away. he already had the cavalry on it's way, he had a gun on him, he was confident the guy was up to no good.  I have no doubt George tried to detain Trayvon, and it went awry.  

And even if Trayvon was the one who initiated the conflict.  The immediate question would be WHY?  The only reasonable answer to this is that Georges suspicious actions led him to feel threatened.  If you are going to put fear into other people either by stalking or acting suspicious, it is only reasonable to assume they may be out to harm you.  That is the whole basis of stand your ground, if you have a reasonable fear that someone is going to harm you then you can do whatever it takes to prevent them from doing so.  I find it perfectly reasonable that Georges actions caused a teenage boy to feel afraid for his well being and I wouldn't have a problem with someone taking pre-emptive action in such a circumstance.  As it turned out, Trayvon had every right to fear George, he ended up being his killer.  George created a threatening situation that gave someone else little choice but to react to it, the only person standing there ground was Trayvon.

Like I said, when I am out walking if someone was following me, I would find this highly suspicious, why else would someone want to follow you other than to harm you.  I can't think of any good reason to follow any stranger.  And the very last thing I would do if I suspected someone was up to no good is to follow them.  Why on earth would anybody risk a confrontation with someone who was up to no good.  Not that I believe Trayvon initiated the assault, but if someone was following me and I felt threatened, I wouldn't hesitate to assault the person.  You don't get a second chance in dangerous situations to make a different choice.  

The whole situation seems absurd to me, I live in a Country where the mere carrying of a weapon in public will see you locked away for a long time, let alone playing neighbourhood watchmen.  Even that concept of civilian watchmen is bizarre, that's why we have a Police force.  Over here, if people have any issues they ring the Police.  What good can a watchmen do against serious criminals, and as this case highlights, it actually increases the potential for criminality.  

And Georges reasoning for suspecting Trayvon in the first place is borderline schizophrenic.  He said "It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about" and "looking at all the houses".  How that translates to suspicious behaviour is beyond me, what does he expect someone to do whenever caught in the rain, start sprinting and look directly at the ground.  I could think of anything more normal when walking than looking about.  You have to look somewhere, and other than looking at your feet as you were walking, there would be no way Trayvon could have not been looking at the houses as he walked by them.  It's more than likely George is an extremely paranoid individual, exacerbated by powerful psychiatric drugs and exposure to some recent criminal activity that led him to distort reality.  George had a history of regularly ringing 911 (about 50 times apparently), and he would report children as young as 7 that were simply riding their bikes.  None of Georges emergency calls ever led to the discovery of a single crime.


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