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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2013, 10:41:30 AM »
perhaps some of you morons should stay informed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57356379-10391704/is-smoking-marijuana-bad-for-your-lungs/

(CBS) - Is smoking marijuana bad for your health? The question is often debated when it comes to medical marijuana, but a new study suggests if smoking pot is bad for your body, your lungs aren't bearing the brunt of the damage.

The study found occasional marijuana smoking did not negatively impact a person's lung function.

For the study, researchers performed routine pulmonary function tests on 5,115 young adults who were part 20-year study on coronary artery disease risk. The researchers wanted to test lung function against a person's "joint years" of life-time marijuana exposure. For example, if a person smoked one joint or pipe's worth of marijuana per week for 49 years, or if a person smoked one joint or pipe's worth per day for seven years, both people would be identified as having "7-joint-years" of marijuana exposure.

That might sound like a lot, but most of the marijuana smokers in this study were not heavy users, according to study co-author Dr. Stefan Kertesz, an associate professor of preventive medicine at the University of Alabama at Birgmingham.

"This is not a study focused on the kinds of individuals you would see in treatment programs for chemical dependence or in the latest 'Harold and Kumar' movie," Kertesz told CBS News in an email. Kertesz said the median marijuana smokers in the study used roughly two to three joints per month, which may include some people who would smoke frequently but then stop for a long period of time.

What the researchers find?

"With up to 7 joint-years of life-time exposure, we found no evidence that increasing exposure to marijuana adversely affects pulmonary function," the researchers wrote in study, published in the Jan. 10 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. In fact, the researchers found a slight increase in occasional marijuana smokers' lung function. That increase may be indicative of marijuana smokers taking deep breaths and holding the smoke in, the researchers said.

At more than 10 joint-years of marijuana exposure, the researchers saw a slight decline in lung function, but the researchers said that finding was not statistically significant, so could be due to chance. Cigarette smokers, who smoked a median of eight to nine cigarettes per day, saw a significant drop in lung function over the twenty year study.

"Marijuana may have beneficial effects on pain control, appetite, mood, and management of other chronic symptoms," the researchers wrote. "Our findings suggest that occasional use of marijuana for these or other purposes may not be associated with adverse consequences on pulmonary function."

The researchers said it's more difficult to determine if long-term, heavy marijuana use is worse for lungs - because that pattern of smoking was "relatively rare" among the study participants - but they said there was a need for caution and moderation when marijuana use is considered.

Is smoking marijuana easier on the lungs than smoking cigarettes?

Kertesz told CBS News that low doses of marijuana among users who aren't addicted, "seems to pose lower risk to lungs than the typical usage patterns of cigarette smoking."

But that doesn't mean it's good for your lungs. Kertesz said smoking marijuana irritates the airways, triggers cough and phlegm production, and could be especially dangerous for asthmatics. Also, since the participants were originally enrolled in a heart study, the researchers couldn't determine how many got lung cancer.

"So don't assume that there is 'no' risk no matter who you are," Kertesz said.

Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency medicine physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, told CBS News in an email, "while casual marijuana use may not reflect an immediate decrease in lung function, marijuana smoke contains high levels of tar, which is bad for your health."

Glatter said smoking marijuana could lead to chronic coughing, wheezing and potentially chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).

"Casual or recreational marijuana use is not a safe alternative to tobacco
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2013, 10:44:43 AM »
youre so fuckin dumb just look at that smug empty look on your face, any kind of smoke causes long term damage ANY KIND OF SMOKE

The smoking I'm gonna cause from a lightening fast ass whoopin' I'm a put on you is gonna cause some long term damage. What do you think about that?
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Re: For weed smokers ...
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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2013, 04:30:52 PM »
I smoked all morning before I did arms, I curled the 100 lb dumbells and curled 205 for 5, weed n coffee secrets of iron pumpers

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« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2013, 05:24:54 PM »
The smoking I'm gonna cause from a lightening fast ass whoopin' I'm a put on you is gonna cause some long term damage. What do you think about that?
you come to nc and ill beat your ass like a little dumb bitch youll be beggin for mercy then ill give you a paint brush to pay your medical bills
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Re: For weed smokers ...
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2013, 05:35:24 PM »
Im sure all those dutch masters are healthy too ...
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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2013, 04:34:15 AM »
A joint is like smoking 10 cigarettes on your lungs and central nervous system.

wrong.

nothing of his nature has ever been found, in fact it's the opposite. Also, comparing nicotine to cannabinoids is stupid.

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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2013, 04:48:33 AM »
you sure you didn't just get bad weed?


No, No, In fact, the better the weed the more intense the inflammation response, rashes, et al.  Just breaking it up when it is really good makes me feel it.  Even without getting tested by an allergist I am sure I am allergic to it.  I have met people with this same thing and they didn't realize it until they abstain for a while that their rashes, arthritis, ear blockages, only bother them when they use marijuana.

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« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2013, 06:22:37 AM »
i smoke weed to relax but if i smoke too much i get lazy as fuck and just want to chill at home dont want to go out... i also smoked before my workouts and it didnt effect my workout negative.. it was positive i could train hard like always.. i was a lot more motivated and didnt sweat at all

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Re: For weed smokers ...
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2013, 07:14:44 AM »
Weed is lame. Its the biggest nothing ever. Its great if you dont mind being lazy and stupid.

 Yeah, I'm sure its great for your lungs too. Some people will believe anything. Unfiltered smoke inhalation, yeah thats fucking great for your lungs.

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« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2013, 07:22:09 AM »
Weed is lame. Its the biggest nothing ever. Its great if you dont mind being lazy and stupid.

 Yeah, I'm sure its great for your lungs too. Some people will believe anything. Unfiltered smoke inhalation, yeah thats fucking great for your lungs.

Well you got the stupid part and it appears the lazy part also as you clearly do not know anything about the science behind MJ. Also, who proposed that smoke is the only method of administration? that's an assumption, a lazy and stupid one on your part. What about oral? or perhaps vaporization? what about the THC to CBD ratio of these methods?

I neither lazy nor stupid and I actually find It to aide me in the lazy area to be honest, it's quite motivating for me, particularly sativa dominant strains which have more dopaminergic actions.

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« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2013, 07:25:50 AM »
Weed has never killed anyone yes smoke is toxic to the body but there's never been one documented case stating weed as the culprit, however in Westwood ca they have a real time ticker of the number of people killed by cigarettes each swc

Ask the mexican cartels if weed ever killed anyone.

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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2013, 07:28:08 AM »
Ask the mexican cartels if weed ever killed anyone.

Or ask ford if cars ever killed anyone ::)

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« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2013, 07:29:21 AM »
Or ask ford if cars ever killed anyone ::)

Heard this comparison a thousand times....funny thing is it isn't a comparison LOL.


this to be followed up by, "should we outlaw cars?  better yet let's just legalize weed and everyone is happy."

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« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2013, 07:33:13 AM »
Heard this comparison a thousand times....funny thing is it isn't a comparison LOL.


this to be followed up by, "should we outlaw cars?  better yet let's just legalize weed and everyone is happy."

the point I was making was that the weed isn't the killer it's the peripheral shit like the selling of weed. Just like cars aren't to blame in cases of alcohol or DUI's, it's not a fair analogy.

Hitler was a christian :D

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Re: For weed smokers ...
« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2013, 07:35:03 AM »
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Re: For weed smokers ...
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2013, 08:14:36 AM »
No, No, In fact, the better the weed the more intense the inflammation response, rashes, et al.  Just breaking it up when it is really good makes me feel it.  Even without getting tested by an allergist I am sure I am allergic to it.  I have met people with this same thing and they didn't realize it until they abstain for a while that their rashes, arthritis, ear blockages, only bother them when they use marijuana.

sounds like you are getting to high, stress response is kicking in.

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« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2013, 08:43:43 AM »
no,...rash (skin breaking out, crap forming in my ear),...inflammation of joints (not the rolled kind),...phlegm,...physical symptoms of an allergic response to a substance...not stress.

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« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2013, 09:27:50 AM »
Well you got the stupid part and it appears the lazy part also as you clearly do not know anything about the science behind MJ. Also, who proposed that smoke is the only method of administration? that's an assumption, a lazy and stupid one on your part. What about oral? or perhaps vaporization? what about the THC to CBD ratio of these methods?

I neither lazy nor stupid and I actually find It to aide me in the lazy area to be honest, it's quite motivating for me, particularly sativa dominant strains which have more dopaminergic actions.

Yeah from that post you can "clearly" tell what I know and don't know.

Dipshit. It was not an assumption, it was a response to a post about SMOKING weed. Or  are you too lazy and stupid to read the thread? Go eat your cannabis brownies then come back and flaunt some more knowledge on the "science" of weed. What a joke.  Dr. Necrosis.

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« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2013, 09:28:37 AM »
Ask the mexican cartels if weed ever killed anyone.

ask any bartender/bouncer/cop/football fan if alcohol ever killed anyone

people are gonna be retarded, it has nothing to do with the substance. if you're gonna pull that shit, go take it up with your retarded government that outlaws the stuff and creates a black market for it in the first place, and then POURS guns and funds FOR FREE into the hands of the cartels COUGH operation fast and furious COUGH

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« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2013, 09:30:00 AM »
Yeah from that post you can "clearly" tell what I know and don't know.

Dipshit. It was not an assumption, it was a response to a post about SMOKING weed. Or  are you too lazy and stupid to read the thread? Go eat your cannabis brownies then come back and flaunt some more knowledge on the "science" of weed. What a joke.  Dr. Necrosis.

bro, i don't think you need any help being lazy and stupid. especially the "stupid" part

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« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2013, 09:32:38 AM »
sounds like you are getting to high, stress response is kicking in.

Yes, I concur. Spot on diagnosis.

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« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2013, 09:44:16 AM »
Yeah from that post you can "clearly" tell what I know and don't know.

Dipshit. It was not an assumption, it was a response to a post about SMOKING weed. Or  are you too lazy and stupid to read the thread? Go eat your cannabis brownies then come back and flaunt some more knowledge on the "science" of weed. What a joke.  Dr. Necrosis.

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this thread was more so the use of weed. Clearly you haven't typed in marijuana in pubmed nor read any of the literature. Hopefully your not a doctor.

I don't eat brownies, I do an alcohol extraction, it's much more precise and only requires converting THCA-->THC via light baking and a steam bath.

You need some weed to calm down, an all caps word is a clear sign of anger.

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« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2013, 12:37:55 PM »
Weed fucks with your mind

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Re: For weed smokers ...
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2013, 06:48:31 PM »
Weed fucks with your mind

you talking to me?

you hear that?