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Author Topic: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ  (Read 160325 times)
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« Reply #950 on: November 28, 2017, 03:40:46 PM »

Arnold, Roger, Roy and Mike
Mike wins this from the back.. despite the claims he had a weak back, here he had really brought it up! All the deadlifts and power cleans paid off. Callender's is good, just not very hard  looking, same with Walker, though it looks like he is not quite set in the pose. probably true of Arnold as well. Mentzer's triceps and arguably calves are the best as well.  Maybe he only seemed flat from the side and a bit from the front.?
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« Reply #951 on: November 28, 2017, 05:33:08 PM »

Mike wins this from the back.. despite the claims he had a weak back, here he had really brought it up! All the deadlifts and power cleans paid off. Callender's is good, just not very hard  looking, same with Walker, though it looks like he is not quite set in the pose. probably true of Arnold as well. Mentzer's triceps and arguably calves are the best as well.  Maybe he only seemed flat from the side and a bit from the front.?
Mike looked the best only on the relaxed quarterturn from the back. When they started the actual poses RDB and RLS he lost it.
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« Reply #952 on: November 28, 2017, 06:52:47 PM »

i dont think his DBs were bad.  couldnt find a llat spread on short norice


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« Reply #953 on: November 28, 2017, 06:53:36 PM »

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« Reply #954 on: November 28, 2017, 07:18:00 PM »

Can we even estimate the egos assembled on stage that day? A lot of broken bodybuilders after Arnold won in 1980. Some never recovered.
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« Reply #955 on: November 28, 2017, 08:14:25 PM »

Mike's back looked great in that back relaxed pose earlier (yep, better than Arnold in that particular photo) but Arnold is beating Mike soundly in the back double biceps.
Above the waist he is, but Arnold had probably the best upper body of all time. Mentzer was more known for legs than torso though his delts, triceps and forearms are much better than Arnold. Arnold had that great chest, biceps and his back was very defined with the best v shape ever imo.
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« Reply #956 on: November 28, 2017, 09:15:33 PM »

Above the waist he is, but Arnold had probably the best upper body of all time. Mentzer was more known for legs than torso though his delts, triceps and forearms are much better than Arnold. Arnold had that great chest, biceps and his back was very defined with the best v shape ever imo.
Look at the above photo of BDB how much better Arnold's delts are compared to Mike's
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« Reply #957 on: November 29, 2017, 01:17:15 AM »

Yes, she guest posed at the 1980 Mr Olympia. She first competed in Las Vegas in 1983 while they were making a movie about the women. That movie never went anywhere. Bev placed 8th! Ben Weider fixed the contest.

She married Steve Weinberger and went to live in New York and opened a gym. Steve insisted she look more feminine so she had a nose job.

I got divorced in 1999 so I haven't seen Bev for a long time now.


It's a good movie/doco too. Like the men's pumping Iron.

They even have a scene from the judges meeting where Ben Weider is telling them how to judge. So fucking rigged.
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« Reply #958 on: November 29, 2017, 02:03:27 AM »

And the sheer size and volume in his arms along with the sick separation just destroy Mike.
Look at the above photo of BDB how much better Arnold's delts are compared to Mike's
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« Reply #959 on: November 29, 2017, 05:12:09 AM »

fdb.. Arnold vs Mike


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« Reply #960 on: November 29, 2017, 08:21:52 AM »

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« Reply #961 on: November 29, 2017, 08:23:36 AM »

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« Reply #962 on: November 29, 2017, 08:27:01 AM »

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« Reply #963 on: November 30, 2017, 01:04:42 AM »

Arnolds calves beating them all from the rear here and the colour pics his legs look great.
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« Reply #964 on: November 30, 2017, 03:33:13 AM »

From the front it's closer. Like Bill Pearl said, BBing hadn't stood still in the five years since Arnold retired. Guys like Chris Dickerson had amazing calves from the front - arguably more developed than Arnold's because of the tibialis anterior. However, like you said, Arnold knew how to 'pop' them from virtually any angle and especially from the back.

Bill Pearl what Hypocrite He Took 4/5 years off between contests
Had he Forgot That - So The Sport of Bodybuilding had Literally Stood Still For Him also
As He was able to comeback & Win these contests... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #965 on: November 30, 2017, 06:41:44 AM »

Bill Pearl what Hypocrite He Took 4/5 years off between contests
Had he Forgot That - So The Sport of Bodybuilding had Literally Stood Still For Him also
As He was able to comeback & Win these contests... Roll Eyes

I think what Bill Pearl was saying was that if Arnold could only train for 8 weeks and come back and win, then the sport had stood still and not made progress.
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« Reply #966 on: November 30, 2017, 06:55:44 AM »

I think what Bill Pearl was saying was that if Arnold could only train for 8 weeks and come back and win, then the sport had stood still and not made progress.

the fact we can take the Ronnie of 99 and stand him on the O stage today and he would walk it says how much the sport has stood still.
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« Reply #967 on: November 30, 2017, 08:12:23 AM »

I think what Bill Pearl was saying was that if Arnold could only train for 8 weeks and come back and win, then the sport had stood still and not made progress.

Bodybuilding was still trying to catch up with Arnold. He was more than a decade ahead of the rest. If they wanted to best him they needed better genetics.
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« Reply #968 on: November 30, 2017, 10:22:42 AM »

From what I understood about Bill Pearl, he was more concerned with his gym business than he was competing. He owned several gyms and every 4-5 years, he would jump into another Mr. Universe contest and win it, both as a way to motivate himself to get into great shape and also as a way to promote his business. When he competed in his last show in 1971, he announced in IronMan Magazine the year before that this would be his last contest and he was issuing a challenge to anyone who wanted to compete against him.
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« Reply #969 on: November 30, 2017, 10:56:02 AM »

I think the judges got this one right. They are not stupid you know... Arnold sure was smaller then before but he was the best. Just as stated he won over a bunch of really good bbs and you have to give it to him.
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« Reply #970 on: November 30, 2017, 02:47:39 PM »

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« Reply #971 on: November 30, 2017, 02:51:31 PM »

I think what Bill Pearl was saying was that if Arnold could only train for 8 weeks and come back and win, then the sport had stood still and not made progress.

That may well be the case.
Only he didn't say that - He was having a dig at Arnold
For returning & competing.

Completely not mentioning he had done the same several times previously

How did he know Arnold had trained for 8 wks 8days or 8 months.
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« Reply #972 on: November 30, 2017, 04:12:24 PM »

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« Reply #973 on: December 01, 2017, 01:17:10 AM »

Can we even estimate the egos assembled on stage that day? A lot of broken bodybuilders after Arnold won in 1980. Some never recovered.

and some never recovered after IFBB Mr.Australia 1975

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« Reply #974 on: December 01, 2017, 01:49:04 PM »

Look at the above photo of BDB how much better Arnold's delts are compared to Mike's

They look better there, because he is hitting the pose extremely well. Mike isn't hitting it as well. If you look at other pics in this thread Mike and then probably Tinnerino had the best delts. Arnold the best chest for sure, best biceps, then Coe, Back was one of the best. He did have weak points, his triceps were not great in this show, and his thighs were bad at this contest. They didnt judge glutes back then, and no I dont want to look, I think it is a stupid body part to judge. Sorry but no way Arnold was at his best here, as Zane said m in that short of time, his strong points made it back..
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