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Title: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 04, 2013, 08:42:36 AM
In 1980, After 5 years break he came back leaner than ever ,  what drugs you think  he was on ?  

Looked great and very athletic.

WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: LATS on June 04, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
Same as he always was.. Just dieted hard.. He liked primo dbol.. Rumored anyway..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2013, 09:31:27 AM
In 1980, After 5 years break he came back leaner than ever ,  what drugs you think  he was on ? 


Looked great and very athletic.




WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
STRANGE A.S. PROTEIN SERIES IS NOT AROUND ANYMORE.YOU THINK HE WOULD BE LEADER IN SUPP INDUSTRY,,,THAT WAS A WEIDER PRODUCT WITH ARNOLD LOGO SLAPPED ON IT,,,


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Man of Steel on June 04, 2013, 09:38:24 AM
all streusel and wienerschnitzel


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: viking1 on June 04, 2013, 09:42:48 AM
Diet and two-a-days in the gym.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Sophus on June 04, 2013, 09:52:21 AM
cadavar


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Psychopath on June 04, 2013, 09:53:17 AM
Superior A.r.y.a.n genetics.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: dj181 on June 04, 2013, 09:57:49 AM
holy biceps batman


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: the trainer on June 04, 2013, 10:52:02 AM
its because of the weider protein power that he is drinking its better than cell tech.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: irishdave on June 04, 2013, 10:56:49 AM
I was thinking about this the other day...I don't think I've ever seen a pic of Arnold with a bloated face from all the dbol he took. Was he eating super clean all the time?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: irishdave on June 04, 2013, 11:11:32 AM
oh i seen bloaty pics of him,lol.

i have his bible-like thick book , but yeah, they would come off gear off season and just be small and skinyfat and grow into shape on 1000calories, they dieted very hard and thats that.

low dose and hard low calorie diet will give trademark lean face, all the ppl on gh i see never seem to get that epic lean face.

But low dose and low calorie diet will make you shrink to fucking nothing?? Is it possible to be 240/250lbs with a lean face if you eat low carbs and salt? I struggle hard with it.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Psychopath on June 04, 2013, 11:13:23 AM
But low dose and low calorie diet will make you shrink to fucking nothing?? Is it possible to be 240/250lbs with a lean face if you eat low carbs and salt? I struggle hard with it.


Maybe he loaded on non-aromatizing compounds.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Psychopath on June 04, 2013, 11:18:57 AM
Getting to be 250lb+ is a challenge, and requires lots of drugs and food.

Once you attain that size, you can maintain that size on less drugs and food.

Considering people diet for short periods of time, the risk of muscle loss is almost impossible.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Rudee on June 04, 2013, 11:29:43 AM
Squirrel eggs and bee pollen. 


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 04, 2013, 11:34:07 AM
2 triple meats with no salt from In and Out.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: viking1 on June 04, 2013, 12:09:28 PM
Squirrel eggs and bee pollen. 
          LOL, damn....   must have to eat a lot of those eggs.  :D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 04, 2013, 12:10:17 PM
I was thinking about this the other day...I don't think I've ever seen a pic of Arnold with a bloated face from all the dbol he took. Was he eating super clean all the time?


Exactly! he retired  in 1975 the top names back then were Oliva,Ferrigno,Katz ,Waller etc all over 240 lbs...the following years  Arnold got off the sauce, his skin was really lose for a 30 year old guy 76,77,78, specially 1979,And don't forget,by 1980 the game had changed drastically, Zane,Robinso,Dickerson,Makawi,Mentzer etc were the ones dominating  "were ripped" and under 220 lbs... So by spring 1980 not only Arnold got lean but his skin was thinner than ever!!! with striations never before seen in his prime even the split chest...... I really doubt it was the same "Formula" he applied 10 years early the early 70's.




Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 04, 2013, 12:11:28 PM
Arnold just lifted, no drugs.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
Exactly! he retired  in 1975 the top names back then were Oliva,Ferrigno,Katz ,Waller etc all over 240 lbs...the following years  Arnold got off the sauce, his skin was really lose for a 30 year old guy 76,77,78, specially 1979,And don't forget,by 1980 the game had changed drastically, Zane,Robinso,Dickerson,Makawi,Mentzer etc were the ones dominating  "were ripped" and under 220 lbs... So by spring 1980 not only Arnold got lean but his skin was thinner than ever!!! with striations never before seen in his prime even the split chest...... I really doubt it was the same "Formula" he applied 10 years early the early 70's.



HE LOOKS DYNAMITE IN THAT PIC,YES DOING WHAT WAS NEEDED FOR THAT ERA DIET/DRUG WISE DID HIS BUILD WONDERS,MASSIVE OAK WAS REPLACED WITH STREAMLINED BUT STILL BIG OAK WITH ADDED HARDNESS/SEPERATION NEVER SEEN.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 04, 2013, 12:51:25 PM
It does not matter if you don't have the genes then lights out. How many people have tried? I have clue just saying take all the drugs you want most will never be be Mr O. Close but no Cigar.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: arce1988 on June 04, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
 starvation


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 04, 2013, 12:54:18 PM
It does not matter if you don't have the genes then lights out. How many people have tried? I have clue just saying take all the drugs you want most will never be be Mr O. Close but no Cigar.

Exactly , this guy tried every combo of steroid on the planet and never got over 170lbs


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on June 04, 2013, 01:15:44 PM
I was thinking about this the other day...I don't think I've ever seen a pic of Arnold with a bloated face from all the dbol he took. Was he eating super clean all the time?


He was just super lucky. Never looked bloated, not a trace of gyno, great skin...always looked "good"


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: First Blood on June 04, 2013, 01:37:18 PM
(http://www.elmentsxe.info/imagez/ac11.jpg)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 04, 2013, 01:42:50 PM
Exactly , this guy tried every combo of steroid on the planet and never got over 170lbs

Duchaine was one ugly mofo.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on June 04, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
Exactly , this guy tried every combo of steroid on the planet and never got over 170lbs

We have a guy like that here....dj....something.    LOL  ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on June 04, 2013, 01:51:28 PM
starvation




Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: dj181 on June 04, 2013, 01:51:54 PM
We have a guy like that here....dj....something.    LOL  ;D

wait a minute!

i'm almost a buck 60 >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Rudee on June 04, 2013, 01:53:50 PM
          LOL, damn....   must have to eat a lot of those eggs.  :D

The entire squirrel egg.... not just the whites.   That's the key.   ;)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: LanceD on June 04, 2013, 06:14:14 PM

Arnold was a natty, that's a fact.  I know none of you will believe this, he ate and trained, that's all.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Submissionfytr on June 04, 2013, 06:32:49 PM
Lol, at natty!!! He himself confirmed use multiple times, most famous being when he pointed out that steroids were not illegal when he tool them (a political interview ;-)  Also MD printed his exact Olympia stack, if ur too lazy or cheap, than maybe u missed it....


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
Arnold was a natty, that's a fact.  I know none of you will believe this, he ate and trained, that's all.

your a funny fuker,,,


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on June 05, 2013, 08:36:59 AM
starvation

Yup, that's what his face says.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: whitewidow on June 05, 2013, 08:52:30 AM
Huge primo junkie and he swallowed dbol like M&M's. he also used Test,Deca,anadrol,halo anything he could get he used but he started off abusing primo and anabol


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on June 05, 2013, 11:07:29 AM
Huge primo junkie and he swallowed dbol like M&M's. he also used Test,Deca,anadrol,halo anything he could get he used but he started off abusing primo and anabol

Yes the "taking dbol like tic tac M&M" story is more like an urban legend among old school BBers also the one that he was passing them pills around back stage (for free) while in Europe etc .... but truth is that when he lost to Zane (50lbs lighter than him) in Florida he knew he had to get lean and ripped to be the best in America, he tried everything available! but even at that age (21) he couldn't get as ripped, vascular dry although he won the Mr.O from 1970 on.... I would say the drastic dry look he finally accomplished in 1980 was more the result of the fish,egg water and heavy deca use.....  


and Starvation .....  motivated by a great urge to teach Mentzer and Zane a lesson .


AS.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2013, 11:09:31 AM
Unless he signs up here and tells us himself, we will never know.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on June 05, 2013, 11:19:20 AM
GREAT SHOTS 'RIPPED'ARNOLD ,,THOUGHT I SAW THEM ALL..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: no one on June 05, 2013, 11:24:08 AM
Exactly! he retired  in 1975 the top names back then were Oliva,Ferrigno,Katz ,Waller etc all over 240 lbs...the following years  Arnold got off the sauce, his skin was really lose for a 30 year old guy 76,77,78, specially 1979,And don't forget,by 1980 the game had changed drastically, Zane,Robinso,Dickerson,Makawi,Mentzer etc were the ones dominating  "were ripped" and under 220 lbs... So by spring 1980 not only Arnold got lean but his skin was thinner than ever!!! with striations never before seen in his prime even the split chest...... I really doubt it was the same "Formula" he applied 10 years early the early 70's.




THAT pic is an awesome example of what a great physique looks like. dont make them like that anymore. goddamn you, insulin and gh.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on June 05, 2013, 11:28:50 AM
Unless he signs up here and tells us himself, we will never know.


wenn Sie zwischen den Linien lasen     ;)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on June 05, 2013, 11:31:49 AM

wenn Sie zwischen den Linien lasen     ;)
SKIN ON MUSCLE DRY MAN,,,CERTAIN POSES HE WASN'T LEGENDARY ARNOLDESQUE HIS LEGS WERE DOWN,OTHERWISE HE WAS ON POINT.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: wild willie on June 05, 2013, 11:42:58 AM
I know Arnold was not at his best in 80......but the guy still looked sensational!!!


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Lord Humungous on June 05, 2013, 12:41:27 PM
rumor had it he took his Wieder protein right from Joes tap.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: falco on June 05, 2013, 12:58:19 PM
It's not about drugs it's about diet.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: OTHstrong on June 05, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
Exactly! he retired  in 1975 the top names back then were Oliva,Ferrigno,Katz ,Waller etc all over 240 lbs...the following years  Arnold got off the sauce, his skin was really lose for a 30 year old guy 76,77,78, specially 1979,And don't forget,by 1980 the game had changed drastically, Zane,Robinso,Dickerson,Makawi,Mentzer etc were the ones dominating  "were ripped" and under 220 lbs... So by spring 1980 not only Arnold got lean but his skin was thinner than ever!!! with striations never before seen in his prime even the split chest...... I really doubt it was the same "Formula" he applied 10 years early the early 70's.



looking at this pic makes me wonder how anyone could think he got a gift here. He looks flawless


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: First Blood on June 05, 2013, 01:14:16 PM
Incredible physique.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mawse on June 05, 2013, 01:55:44 PM
Yes the "taking dbol like tic tac M&M" story is more like an urban legend among old school BBers also the one that he was passing them pills around back stage (for free) while in Europe etc .... but truth is that when he lost to Zane (50lbs lighter than him) in Florida he knew he had to get lean and ripped to be the best in America, he tried everything available! but even at that age (21) he couldn't get as ripped, vascular dry although he won the Mr.O from 1970 on.... I would say the drastic dry look he finally accomplished in 1980 was more the result of the fish,egg water and heavy deca use.....  


and Starvation .....  motivated by a great urge to teach Mentzer and Zane a lesson .


AS.

LOL!! And what the fuck would you know about what he did to get lean? You're a 400lb cave troll who's specialized subject is paying she-beasts to poop on you in motel rooms.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: nolotil on June 05, 2013, 02:17:44 PM
arnie


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: nolotil on June 05, 2013, 02:26:00 PM
more



Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 05, 2013, 02:29:29 PM
STRANGE A.S. PROTEIN SERIES IS NOT AROUND ANYMORE.YOU THINK HE WOULD BE LEADER IN SUPP INDUSTRY,,,THAT WAS A WEIDER PRODUCT WITH ARNOLD LOGO SLAPPED ON IT,,,


That's not a Weider product.  Its a protein mix that's made in Germany made my AminoVit.  The stuff is actually still made and sold exclusively in Europe.  Arnold was able to get a deal with AminoVit because Weider products at the time were only available in Canada and U.S.  Not a bad way to make some extra cash

(http://www.bbclub.gr/photos/products/thumbs_large/57_aminovit.jpg)



Arnold has other strange endorsements on products most people don't know about.  He endorses an energy drink with nicotine in Japan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEapEepwir4



Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: nolotil on June 05, 2013, 02:32:20 PM
...


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on June 05, 2013, 02:33:10 PM

That's not a Weider product.  Its a protein mix that's made in Germany made my AminoVit.  The stuff is actually still made and sold exclusively in Europe.  Arnold was able to get a deal with AminoVit because Weider products at the time were only available in Canada and U.S.  Not a bad way to make some extra cash

(http://www.bbclub.gr/photos/products/thumbs_large/57_aminovit.jpg)


THANKS VINCE ...COOL,,GOOD FOR ARNIE,,,


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on June 05, 2013, 02:52:51 PM
LOL!! And what the fuck would you know about what he did to get lean? You're a 400lb cave troll who's specialized subject is paying she-beasts to poop on you in motel rooms.


 Sie konnten wirklich überrascht werden   ;)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 05, 2013, 02:57:38 PM
pic of arnold with moon face?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: LanceD on June 05, 2013, 08:43:39 PM
Arnold's secret, train 8-10 hours a day and get enemas regular, helped him get ripped. Other than that, beer on off days, pussy after post training nap...your welcome.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: AbrahamG on June 05, 2013, 09:07:49 PM
In 1980, After 5 years break he came back leaner than ever ,  what drugs you think  he was on ? 


Looked great and very athletic.




WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

D-bol and lasix.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: arce1988 on June 05, 2013, 11:12:13 PM
 
  Iris Kyle


  She does not eat carbs and she does two hours of cardio every day


  She starves    she suffers  she is miserable



  Galeniko was right


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: whitewidow on June 06, 2013, 01:36:39 AM
Yes the "taking dbol like tic tac M&M" story is more like an urban legend among old school BBers also the one that he was passing them pills around back stage (for free) while in Europe etc .... but truth is that when he lost to Zane (50lbs lighter than him) in Florida he knew he had to get lean and ripped to be the best in America, he tried everything available! but even at that age (21) he couldn't get as ripped, vascular dry although he won the Mr.O from 1970 on.... I would say the drastic dry look he finally accomplished in 1980 was more the result of the fish,egg water and heavy deca use.....  


and Starvation .....  motivated by a great urge to teach Mentzer and Zane a lesson .


AS.

Pretty sure he took a good amount of dbol especially when he was young. dianabol was the most popular drug. to say he didn't take alot of dbol is incorrect! he popped alot of dbol but back then dbol was cleaner and might not of made one bloat like the underground lab dbol going around today or the dbol that is misslabled and is really methyl-testosterone,none of this shit went on back then. You could buy high quality dbol like you could buy a can of pepsi. It very well could be possible the more he cycled the more he realized dbol produced some water retention and he might of altered his cycles but to say Arnold did not take a shit load of dbol is false. he ate dbol pills for breakfast lunch and dinner but of course with a meal.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Bevo on June 06, 2013, 01:51:48 AM
It does not matter if you don't have the genes then lights out. How many people have tried? I have clue just saying take all the drugs you want most will never be be Mr O. Close but no Cigar.

Being mr O doesn't mean u have the best genetics in this era look at cutler for example, is he better than flex, Chris, victor , dex in terms of genes? Nope

U got branch winning Arnold classics now , enough said  :D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2013, 01:58:04 AM
Being mr O doesn't mean u have the best genetics in this era look at cutler for example, is he better than flex, Chris, victor , dex in terms of genes? Nope

U got branch winning Arnold classics now , enough said  :D
genetics in terms of shape, yes you are right but genetics are a number of things like;

Your genetics response to the hormones- aas, gh, slin etc

Your genetics on how lean your body can get like Andreas Munzer, everyone can get to 4 but it takes genetics to go below this.

Your genetic shape

and your genetic structure

Jay has the structure and the response on his side


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Bevo on June 06, 2013, 02:05:04 AM
genetics in terms of shape, yes you are right but genetics are a number of things like;

Your genetics response to the hormones- aas, gh, slin etc

Your genetics on how lean your body can get like Andreas Munzer, everyone can get to 4 but it takes genetics to go below this.

Your genetic shape

and your genetic structure

Jay has the structure and the response on his side

I agree but u think jay has good structure? Still think Vic is much better , a number of guys I named is much better than jay including levrone who was the king of response .

Jay in 2001 and 09 is amazing though but shape , structure I think loses to those guys but the ability to pack on mass on a 5'8 frame he beats a lot of the others esp flex


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2013, 02:09:36 AM
I agree but u think jay has good structure? Still think Vic is much better , a number of guys I named is much better than jay including levrone who was the king of response .

Jay in 2001 and 09 is amazing though but shape , structure I think loses to those guys but the ability to pack on mass on a 5'8 frame he beats a lot of the others esp flex
Victor has tremendous shape and Jay has nothing on him but Jay has one of the best structures in the biz and even better then Ronnie. He is wide as fuck and hips are still relatively small. Small ankles, elbows and risks, for sure Jay beats the ones who you mentioned in structure, remember structure does not mean shape


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Bevo on June 06, 2013, 02:16:35 AM
Victor has tremendous shape and Jay has nothing on him but Jay has one of the best structures in the biz and even better then Ronnie. He is wide as fuck and hips are still relatively small. Small ankles, elbows and risks, for sure Jay beats the ones who you mentioned in structure, remember structure does not mean shape

Still think Cormier had one of the best structure even better than Jay , Chris was more complete than flex and even the later years of levrone. But I see what u mean about jay :D

Regarding Arnold did he ever have a drug guru like all of these guys now?? Who was in charge of prepping Arnold for shows??


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2013, 03:50:12 AM
Still think Cormier had one of the best structure even better than Jay , Chris was more complete than flex and even the later years of levrone. But I see what u mean about jay :D

Regarding Arnold did he ever have a drug guru like all of these guys now?? Who was in charge of prepping Arnold for shows??
Structure is not known until guys come off the gear, then you can tell. For example Ronnie, man he has a horrible structure and Levrone too, he shrinks to nothing, he is a 185 lb twig, Cormier not so much but still is under 200lb off gear and , Jay on the other hand would still be big, his structure would not allow him to ever be under 200lb.

As for Arnold not having a guru, Arnold was the guru himself, he had everything money can buy and he studied everything and lived the sport fanatically.



Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on July 07, 2013, 01:01:43 PM
This.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: _bruce_ on July 07, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
...

Leave Sweede out of this.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on July 07, 2013, 03:06:32 PM
Arnold just lifted drugs.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 07, 2013, 03:27:54 PM
Back then most androgens (test, etc) were kept low (during contest prep), anabolics were fairly high. Diets were high protein, fairly high fats and little carbs. Ever wonder how these guys were so ripped back then as compared to now?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Disgusted on July 07, 2013, 03:50:24 PM
Arnold was always hungry while dieting.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 07, 2013, 06:46:17 PM
Some of you guys are fucking clueless!  Arnold took whatever existed back then.  And EVERYTHING was available anywhere in any amount.  Everyone knew Arnold had to take twice what Sergio was taking just to compete with him.  Arnold was great but Sergio was one of the most gifted  bodybuilders to ever step on stage. 


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2013, 07:26:36 PM
Back then most androgens (test, etc) were kept low (during contest prep), anabolics were fairly high. Diets were high protein, fairly high fats and little carbs. Ever wonder how these guys were so ripped back then as compared to now?

This could be it. Now all this crap is just counterfeit labeled high androgen testosterone and everyone thinks they are getting anabolic steroids. I would bet money just about no one can get true Dianabol, Androl 50, Winstrol, Anavar or Deca like these guys took. All of this crap being sold from the trunk of the local gym drug dealer is just crap testosterone variations sold and counterfeit labeled like it's legit. Wouldn't doubt if the material used to make it or the whole package is coming out of China.

One thing almost everyone is missing is that he trained for a contest splitting his body in half training with volume. That in itself burns the fat off. Everyone who has ever seen him in a gym said he trained like an animal. 


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Schmoff on July 07, 2013, 07:28:32 PM
weed and lots lots of pussy



Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hardgainerj on July 07, 2013, 07:32:35 PM
...
a wee toto  ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: NotMrAverage on July 07, 2013, 08:04:46 PM
Good thread! Arnold was epic lean here. And skinny. And mr O.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: cswol on July 07, 2013, 08:10:59 PM
you can say arnold did it both ways, he was the biggest at his peak, then he took it to the zane level and beat those guys at their own game, so its never been done by any mr. olympia except arnold, to be the biggest, and then to be leaner and the most cut, and win the olympia both ways, thats why he is the best ever, or #1 all time!


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: NotMrAverage on July 07, 2013, 08:14:05 PM
True. He did swing both ways  ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: cswol on July 07, 2013, 08:15:33 PM
NMA..........i know bro, thats the one thing i hated about arnold, never wanted to shine the light on that part of his career, but yes its true.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 07, 2013, 09:10:45 PM
Some of you guys are fucking clueless!  Arnold took whatever existed back then.  And EVERYTHING was available anywhere in any amount.  Everyone knew Arnold had to take twice what Sergio was taking just to compete with him.  Arnold was great but Sergio was one of the most gifted  bodybuilders to ever step on stage. 

Were you bodybuilding during that period? I was, also knew the Dr's that he was getting it from. Almost everyone was low androgens.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: wild willie on July 07, 2013, 10:27:39 PM
sergio was sensational......but arnold was better......better arms, chest, calves and conditioning......not to mention a much better poser.


what a clueless statement to make.......to say that arnold had to take twice the amount sergio took!




Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: missile on July 08, 2013, 01:06:49 AM
Superior A.r.y.a.n genetics.

x2


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: cswol on July 08, 2013, 08:05:23 AM
arnold would often go to germany, at that time they had the most up to date and vast array of anabolics


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 08, 2013, 10:07:24 AM
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH !

I want that stack he was taking !



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: cswol on July 08, 2013, 10:10:05 AM
everyone claims arnold shouldnt have won the 80 olympia, when you go back and look at the pics and scans, its obvious no one had the cuts and muslce density he had, and at 220 he still outsized everyone on stage.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: _bruce_ on July 08, 2013, 10:58:34 AM
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH !

I want that stack he was taking !



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Looked fantastic - extremely full and had that ripple look pushing through his skin.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Bam-bam on July 08, 2013, 11:04:55 AM
he was a little drier and thats it, maybe diuretics

(http://spotmebro.com/spotmebrotest/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Arnold-Flexing.jpg)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on July 08, 2013, 12:13:46 PM
Arnold was a natty, that's a fact.  I know none of you will believe this, he ate and trained, that's all.

Yeah, and you're mother is a virgin!


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 31, 2013, 01:54:58 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=486621.0;attach=528261;image)

No further questions   ....     ;D


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on July 31, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
he was a little drier and thats it, maybe diuretics

(http://spotmebro.com/spotmebrotest/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Arnold-Flexing.jpg)
PIC IS NUTZ,,,


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Borracho on July 31, 2013, 06:45:20 PM
Exactly! he retired  in 1975 the top names back then were Oliva,Ferrigno,Katz ,Waller etc all over 240 lbs...the following years  Arnold got off the sauce, his skin was really lose for a 30 year old guy 76,77,78, specially 1979,And don't forget,by 1980 the game had changed drastically, Zane,Robinso,Dickerson,Makawi,Mentzer etc were the ones dominating  "were ripped" and under 220 lbs... So by spring 1980 not only Arnold got lean but his skin was thinner than ever!!! with striations never before seen in his prime even the split chest...... I really doubt it was the same "Formula" he applied 10 years early the early 70's.




(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520754;image)

Damn!

Hadn't seen him this shredded before.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Oblique on July 31, 2013, 06:47:25 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520754;image)

Damn!

Hadn't seen him this shredded before.

I got a poster of that shot. Black and White. Very cool.

They used to sell them in M&F back in the day.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 31, 2013, 06:50:10 PM
Lakers


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Borracho on July 31, 2013, 06:53:24 PM
oh i seen vid backstage of olympia,he been peeled, increibly good leanness and all.

as for what drugs he took, well he wrote a book and tells it there

u see this elfs ,,,,look of tren/masteron combination lol

I got a poster of that shot. Black and White. Very cool.

They used to sell them in M&F back in the day.

The girls must love it when they come over  ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Borracho on July 31, 2013, 06:55:58 PM
yeah he took those before they even existed ;D

obviously he had connections with extraterrestrial underground labs  ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: O.Z. on July 31, 2013, 06:56:33 PM
you can say arnold did it both ways, he was the biggest at his peak, then he took it to the zane level and beat those guys at their own game, so its never been done by any mr. olympia except arnold, to be the biggest, and then to be leaner and the most cut, and win the olympia both ways, thats why he is the best ever, or #1 all time!



I agree with this and yes he is the best ever IMO


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: no one on August 01, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
PIC IS NUTZ,,,


look at the size of his unflexed arm. thats crazy.

arnold was THE MAN.

even at his most shredded he was impressive. in that shredded pic above i wouldnt be surprised if he was lower 220's.

guy could look good at any bf / dryness. gotta have a very good build to pull that off.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on August 01, 2013, 12:11:01 PM
Exactly, who else can look massive and a complete bodybuilder at such a low bodyweight, you see 220lb guys walking round all the time who don't have anywhere near that size or developent.

look at the size of his unflexed arm. thats crazy.

arnold was THE MAN.

even at his most shredded he was impressive. in that shredded pic above i wouldnt be surprised if he was lower 220's.

guy could look good at any bf / dryness. gotta have a very good build to pull that off.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on August 01, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Exactly, who else can look massive and a complete bodybuilder at such a low bodyweight, you see 220lb guys walking round all the time who don't have anywhere near that size or developent.
massive split chest,diced arms,abs/intercostals shredded,back wide and separated top to bottom,lower back lumbar showing a look he never had,legs were slender that was one part off,calves always good looked usual ...1980 he looked great...


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: dyslexic on August 01, 2013, 12:32:08 PM
everyone claims arnold shouldnt have won the 80 olympia, when you go back and look at the pics and scans, its obvious no one had the cuts and muslce density he had, and at 220 he still outsized everyone on stage.

Arnold most definitely was NOT as cut/sliced or diced or even filled-out as the rest of the competition. Mentzer and Zane were insane that day. So were many others ~


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2013, 12:35:46 PM
In 1980, After 5 years break he came back leaner than ever ,  what drugs you think  he was on ? 


Looked great and very athletic.




WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

The drug often referred to as "youth" I would guess.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: ARNIE1947 on August 01, 2013, 12:38:00 PM
 8)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 30, 2013, 11:26:01 AM
Boy Arnold was dry in 1980  I wonder what his BF  was !




WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: BRO on August 30, 2013, 11:30:37 AM
Surprising with how open Arnold is on steroids, that there wasn't detailed cycle info in his encyclopedia.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: NelsonMuntz on August 30, 2013, 11:53:17 AM
Arnold most definitely was NOT as cut/sliced or diced or even filled-out as the rest of the competition. Mentzer and Zane were insane that day. So were many others ~

No Mentzer and Zane look great in 79, in 1980 they looked like shit


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on August 30, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
There's just something about those shots from the 80 Olympia that Arnold looks off... Off in general, and not in his early 70s form.
well yes he was lighter ,but hardfest he's ever been,better diet for the era needed to win copared to 5 yrs earlier,less full/bloat from probably certain drugs he used early 70's to what he was on to get in shape in 80.either way he was peeled and still enough size to win.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 30, 2013, 07:18:52 PM
No Mentzer and Zane look great in 79, in 1980 they looked like shit

In 1980, Menzer was addicted to speed and Zane still wasn't fully recovered from an injury.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 11, 2013, 05:48:58 AM
Good thread! Arnold was epic lean here. And skinny. And mr O.



Finally........  This !



WOOOSSSSSHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 11, 2013, 07:16:36 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520754;image)

Damn!

Hadn't seen him this shredded before.
[/size]

WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Borracho on October 11, 2013, 07:44:26 AM
^

You taking that?

http://prohormonedb.com/view-ingredients.asp?n=7a-Methyl-estra-4-en-3%2C17-dione+%28Mentabolan%2C+MENT%2C+7-MENT%29&i=215

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/192303-mentabolan.html

I hate how they put any label they want on this stuff.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on October 11, 2013, 03:14:13 PM
In 1980, After 5 years break he came back leaner than ever ,  what drugs you think  he was on ? 


Looked great and very athletic.




WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

It was called running, which he did A LOT of in the late 70's, getting down to 199 pounds. He was somewhere between 212 and 220 in this pic. Lean from tons of cardio and weight training.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 20, 2014, 06:12:46 AM
This is how I like to remember Arnold !

What was he taking that got him so ripped ?  after 5 years off?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520870;image)




WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on March 20, 2014, 06:32:27 AM
This is how I like to remember Arnold !

What was he taking that got him so ripped ?  after 5 years off?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520870;image)




WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH
FOR being so 'small'lol as was being made,the conditioning was what made that look he has so cool for that show,he 'zaned'himself with his trademark bodyparts freakier conditioned than older look 74/75


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 20, 2014, 10:32:56 AM
W ;D ;D ;D ;DSHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Skorp1o on March 20, 2014, 10:54:20 AM
This is how I like to remember Arnold !

What was he taking that got him so ripped ?  after 5 years off?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520870;image)




WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH


Parabolan of peace

(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/44110d1302889470-old-vets-what-parabolan-like-parabolan-box.jpg)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Rami on March 20, 2014, 10:56:08 AM
I wonder where did Arnold got the science of drugs and show preparations from. Wasn't he one of the first to use HGH?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 20, 2014, 05:08:21 PM
I wonder where did Arnold got the science of drugs and show preparations from. Wasn't he one of the first to use HGH?



Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 20, 2014, 05:09:27 PM
 ;D


WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 20, 2014, 05:27:16 PM
1974?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 20, 2014, 05:29:11 PM
1975


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 20, 2014, 05:30:42 PM
1980


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 21, 2014, 07:01:07 AM
woosssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 21, 2014, 07:31:23 AM
In 1980, After 5 years break he came back leaner than ever ,  what drugs you think  he was on ? 


Looked great and very athletic.




WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


At that time period , everyone was pretty much using methamphedamines or ephedrine as they were cheap and legal to get from a doctor. 


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 07:39:16 AM

 Sie konnten wirklich überrascht werden   ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520899;image)

Speaking German ? Arnold ? Is that you?


WooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 13, 2014, 08:13:33 AM

Parabolan of peace

(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/44110d1302889470-old-vets-what-parabolan-like-parabolan-box.jpg)


Was great stuff!  I saved an amp/box I did not use from the early 90's.  Parabolan literally turned heavy weight into styrofoam.  Good times.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 13, 2014, 08:18:14 AM
1974?

Yes.  Bruno Sammartino sitting in the front row.

(http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/bruno-sammartino-wwe.png)

(http://www.extralucha.com/wwe-fotos-images-smackdown-raw/2013/03/Bruno-y-Arnold.jpg)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: no one on May 13, 2014, 08:25:27 AM
1974?

imo this is the best pic of him ever.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on May 13, 2014, 08:28:45 AM
Absolutely insane hardness, conditioning and separation, the deep level of definition pisses over any of todays guys.


 
;D


WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 13, 2014, 08:31:50 AM
imo this is the best pic of him ever.

I think this one is right up there too...

(http://cdn-w.musculardevelopment.com/photos/arnold/Arnold258-12.jpg)



Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: no one on May 13, 2014, 08:35:23 AM
I think this one is right up there too...

(http://cdn-w.musculardevelopment.com/photos/arnold/Arnold258-12.jpg)



man him and serge nubret. they were bbing.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 02:45:18 PM
What would you say was his BF % during most of the year 1980 ?


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520732;image)


Woooshhhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 13, 2014, 02:45:54 PM
What would you say was his BF % during most of the year 1980 ?


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520732;image)


Woooshhhhhhhhhhhh
8


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 02:50:24 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 02:53:10 PM
8


Imagine being 8 % BF for an entire year !  Arnold  sure knew what he was doing .


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 02:54:09 PM
 :)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 02:55:09 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 13, 2014, 02:57:53 PM

Imagine being 8 % BF for an entire year !  Arnold  sure knew what he was doing .
just didnt eat too much, not rocket science


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Icelord on May 13, 2014, 03:18:52 PM
Don't care for him that lean.

I think this was his best presentation ever in terms of mass and conditioning:

(http://zinemaniacos.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/t1-0011l.jpg)
(http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/reviews/the_terminator/image1full.jpg)
(http://www.jamescamerononline.com/griffithloc1.jpg)
(http://chelloveck.sfblogs.net/files/2011/02/Terminator-puppet.jpg)


Must've been at least 250-260 there.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on May 13, 2014, 03:26:25 PM
Must've been at least 250-260 there.
I'm the biggest Arnold fan out there, but no way was he pushing anywhere near 250. Probably around 230. He just looked big for his weight which you just don't see anymore.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2014, 05:35:11 PM
COMMANDO/PREADTOR/RED HEAT/FEW SCENES'TWINS'TERMINATOR OPENING SCENE,,,HIS BUILD LOOKED BEST IN THESE..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2014, 05:40:08 PM
In 1980, After 5 years break he came back leaner than ever ,  what drugs you think  he was on ? 


Looked great and very athletic.




WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

He ran several miles a day in the late 70's/early 80's, reducing his offseason bodyweight from 250-260 to 199 pounds. He slowly gained some of that back in the 80's, starting with Conan the Barbarian, but even during the filming of that movie he was between 212-220 pounds. He beefed up in 1984 to 240 pounds for The Terminator. He would never see that bodyweight again. By the early 1990's he was back down to 210-215 pounds. Today, a much shorter man (by close to 3"), I wonder was he weighs.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Icelord on May 13, 2014, 05:41:02 PM
I'm the biggest Arnold fan out there, but no way was he pushing anywhere near 250. Probably around 230. He just looked big for his weight which you just don't see anymore.
I find that hard to believe. I'm 225 and nowhere near as muscular as he was there. His lats and arms are fucking huge, and his legs weren't bad. C'mon man, he was a true 6' in that movie. No way he was less than 250-260.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2014, 05:41:19 PM
Don't care for him that lean.

I think this was his best presentation ever in terms of mass and conditioning:

(http://zinemaniacos.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/t1-0011l.jpg)
(http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/reviews/the_terminator/image1full.jpg)
(http://www.jamescamerononline.com/griffithloc1.jpg)
(http://chelloveck.sfblogs.net/files/2011/02/Terminator-puppet.jpg)


Must've been at least 250-260 there.

Nope, he was 240 pounds for Terminator 1. I have the Flex magazine from December 1984, where he states he bulked up to 240 pounds for the role. For T2 he was 215 pounds.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Icelord on May 13, 2014, 05:42:09 PM
He ran several miles a day in the late 70's/early 80's, reducing his offseason bodyweight from 250-260 to 199 pounds. He slowly gained some of that back in the 80's, starting with Conan the Barbarian, but even during the filming of that movie he was between 212-220 pounds. He beefed up in 1984 to 240 pounds for The Terminator. He would never see that bodyweight again. By the early 1990's he was back down to 210-215 pounds. Today, a much shorter man (by close to 3"), I wonder was he weighs.
He was very big in Twins (1989).

(http://cdn.wegotthiscovered.com/wp-content/uploads/Twins-640x360.jpg)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Icelord on May 13, 2014, 05:42:42 PM
Nope, he was 240 pounds for Terminator 1. I have the Flex magazine from December 1984, where he states he bulked up to 240 pounds for the role. For T2 he was 215 pounds.
That's only 10lbs less than what I said. Reasonable guess on my part.

Anyone suggesting he's 225-30 is insane.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2014, 05:44:37 PM
He was very big in Twins (1989).

(http://cdn.wegotthiscovered.com/wp-content/uploads/Twins-640x360.jpg)

Twins was out in 1988 and he was 230 pounds.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Icelord on May 13, 2014, 05:46:45 PM
He was bigger than Twins in Predator the previous year.

(http://ilarge.listal.com/image/5427517/968full-predator-screenshot.jpg)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2014, 05:48:03 PM
He was bigger than Twins in Predator the previous year.

(http://ilarge.listal.com/image/5427517/968full-predator-screenshot.jpg)
YEP..COMMANDO MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOTAL LEAN/SIZE/ILLUSION IN MOVIES HE SPORTED...


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2014, 05:49:10 PM
He was also pretty massive in The Running Man (1987)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Icelord on May 13, 2014, 05:50:06 PM
Safe to say he juiced until 1988 for roles.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2014, 05:51:00 PM
He was bigger than Twins in Predator the previous year.

(http://ilarge.listal.com/image/5427517/968full-predator-screenshot.jpg)

He actually was bigger in The Running Man in 1987 than he was in Predator (I provided the pics above). He about as lean/cut in Predator as he was in Commando (1985).


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2014, 05:53:48 PM
COMMANDO BAD ASS..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: dyslexic on May 13, 2014, 05:55:26 PM

  Iris Kyle


  She does not eat carbs and she does two hours of cardio every day


  She starves    she suffers  she is miserable



  Galeniko was right


So many people JUST DON'T KNOW what these competitors go through. I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's bitter-sweet.

When you are standing on that stage under the lights and you have gone meticulously and consistently through your contest prep THE WAY YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO... it is what is called a "near death experience" ~ yes, you are elated, especially if you are in the top 5 (REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHOW YOU ARE DOING) and you feel like you are dying.

If you end up placing even higher than the Top 5, you get a rush of adrenaline. Now, where that comes from nobody knows. Is it stored somewhere? The drugs have already done their job. Maybe it's the last of a Vic or a Perc that you popped?

It's the one last shred of ANYTHING you have left in you.


I wonder how many here have seen committed bodybuilders during EVERY STEP of their contest prep? I'm talking the 3 cardio sessions a day, where maybe you are watching their kid for them (Female or Male contender) and then the workouts, the borrowing of the gym's refrigerator so that they can eat the measly little bit of Talapia and Broccoli that they might have. At this point, there is no rice, no sweet potato, no Oatmeal, which would be considered a HUGE TREAT at this time.

They look at you, you can see that haven't been sleeping. They are starving. They still push out their cardio sessions. Sometimes the cardio is continued with bloody nose, or only God knows what, and they push. Unstoppable.

Regulars in the gym don't know what to think. They don't understand what they are seeing.

All that work. All that time. They literally LIVE AT THE GYM...

and the rest of us sit back and go "Oh, it's the drugs... I could be just like that if I did the same thing..." LMAO



NO, you couldn't.


[rant][/end rant]


I have 3 competitors right now who are gasping from a National Qualifier. Anyone in California knows exactly which show I'm talking about.

two more smaller shows coming up....


You wanna talk about the reality of a plastic trophy here?


Anyone here know where I'm coming from (even though I'm going off???) lol ~


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Icelord on May 13, 2014, 05:56:08 PM
COMMANDO BAD ASS..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXIbFz3xiI8


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2014, 05:58:55 PM

So many people JUST DON'T KNOW what these competitors go through. I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's bitter-sweet.

When you are standing on that stage under the lights and you have gone meticulously and consistently through your contest prep THE WAY YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO... it is what is called a "near death experience" ~ yes, you are elated, especially if you are in the top 5 (REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHOW YOU ARE DOING) and you feel like you are dying.

If you end up placing even higher than the Top 5, you get a rush of adrenaline. Now, where that comes from nobody knows. Is it stored somewhere? The drugs have already done their job. Maybe it's the last of a Vic or a Perc that you popped?

It's the one last shred of ANYTHING you have left in you.


I wonder how many here have seen committed bodybuilders during EVERY STEP of their contest prep? I'm talking the 3 cardio sessions a day, where maybe you are watching their kid for them (Female or Male contender) and then the workouts, the borrowing of the gym's refrigerator so that they can eat the measly little bit of Talapia and Broccoli that they might have. At this point, there is no rice, no sweet potato, no Oatmeal, which would be considered a HUGE TREAT at this time.

They look at you, you can see that haven't been sleeping. They are starving. They still push out their cardio sessions. Sometimes the cardio is continued with bloody nose, or only God knows what, and they push. Unstoppable.

Regulars in the gym don't know what to think. They don't understand what they are seeing.

All that work. All that time. They literally LIVE AT THE GYM...

and the rest of us sit back and go "Oh, it's the drugs... I could be just like that if I did the same thing..." LMAO



NO, you couldn't.


[rant][/end rant]


I have 3 competitors right now who are gasping from a National Qualifier. Anyone in California knows exactly which show I'm talking about.

two more smaller shows coming up....


You wanna talk about the reality of a plastic trophy here?


Anyone here know where I'm coming from (even though I'm going off???) lol ~
I POSTED A PIC IN NAVY_MIKES THREAD WHERE I WAS DRY TO BONE AND WAS FEELING IT..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 06:44:36 PM
Although he was dehydrated and almost fainted twice during filming of Predator (he even went to see a doctor)

his leanest (lower BF) for a moviel roll was in Red Heat



Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 06:46:09 PM
RED HEAT


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 06:47:27 PM
RED HEAT


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 06:51:56 PM
Red Heat


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Icelord on May 13, 2014, 06:54:40 PM
Although he was dehydrated and almost fainted twice during filming of Predator (he even went to see a doctor)

his leanest (lower BF) for a moviel roll was in Red Heat


Was probably because of the tropical heat than his conditioning.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 06:58:08 PM
Nope, he was 240 pounds for Terminator 1. I have the Flex magazine from December 1984, where he states he bulked up to 240 pounds for the role. For T2 he was 215 pounds.


For Terminator he was 236 lbs....

His heaviest has been Conan the Destroyer, at the beginning of film Arnold was 236 same as T1, at the end I think he was 241 lbs. (he gained 5 lbs of lean mass) and you can really notice it if you have the dvd specially the scene where he is fighting the monster with the infamous horn .



Woooshhhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 06:58:48 PM
Was probably because of the tropical heat than his conditioning.


Exactly.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 13, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
Here is Arnold T1 at 236 lbs

And then Conan the Destroyer at 241 lbs


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 13, 2014, 07:41:54 PM
In 1980, After 5 years break he came back leaner than ever ,  what drugs you think  he was on ? 


Looked great and very athletic.




WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Amphedamines....they were prescribed to bodybuilders just like their steroids back in the 70's


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: BigRo on May 13, 2014, 07:55:33 PM

So many people JUST DON'T KNOW what these competitors go through. I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's bitter-sweet.

When you are standing on that stage under the lights and you have gone meticulously and consistently through your contest prep THE WAY YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO... it is what is called a "near death experience" ~ yes, you are elated, especially if you are in the top 5 (REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHOW YOU ARE DOING) and you feel like you are dying.

If you end up placing even higher than the Top 5, you get a rush of adrenaline. Now, where that comes from nobody knows. Is it stored somewhere? The drugs have already done their job. Maybe it's the last of a Vic or a Perc that you popped?

It's the one last shred of ANYTHING you have left in you.


I wonder how many here have seen committed bodybuilders during EVERY STEP of their contest prep? I'm talking the 3 cardio sessions a day, where maybe you are watching their kid for them (Female or Male contender) and then the workouts, the borrowing of the gym's refrigerator so that they can eat the measly little bit of Talapia and Broccoli that they might have. At this point, there is no rice, no sweet potato, no Oatmeal, which would be considered a HUGE TREAT at this time.

They look at you, you can see that haven't been sleeping. They are starving. They still push out their cardio sessions. Sometimes the cardio is continued with bloody nose, or only God knows what, and they push. Unstoppable.

Regulars in the gym don't know what to think. They don't understand what they are seeing.

All that work. All that time. They literally LIVE AT THE GYM...

and the rest of us sit back and go "Oh, it's the drugs... I could be just like that if I did the same thing..." LMAO



NO, you couldn't.


[rant][/end rant]


I have 3 competitors right now who are gasping from a National Qualifier. Anyone in California knows exactly which show I'm talking about.

two more smaller shows coming up....


You wanna talk about the reality of a plastic trophy here?


Anyone here know where I'm coming from (even though I'm going off???) lol ~

I do not agree with your mentality here that unless you feel close to death after living on tilapia and broccoli and doing 3hrs of cardio a day your not true bodybuilda. Come on man. Of course if your not suffering pre contest somethings wrong but to make it the main sign of physical perfection is warped sir.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on May 13, 2014, 08:49:09 PM
Twins was out in 1988 and he was 230 pounds.

He was 210 pounds for both "Twins" and "Red Heat"


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: dyslexic on May 13, 2014, 10:37:42 PM
I do not agree with your mentality here that unless you feel close to death after living on tilapia and broccoli and doing 3hrs of cardio a day your not true bodybuilda. Come on man. Of course if your not suffering pre contest somethings wrong but to make it the main sign of physical perfection is warped sir.


I think you may have mis-read or misunderstood what perspective I was taking.


It's cool. A lot get's lost in translation.


And I agree with your last statement. I am a third party. I don't claim to be a "guru" but I do what I can to help these "kids" stay safe during and after their contests. And by "kids" I mean '30 somethings' ~

The near death experience when dried out and possibly having used more, when more was not necessary... among other things...

I'll drop that for now. It get's to in depth.


Now, before and after these contests I am also dealing with multiple photographers in the gym... before and after. These competitors talk about how they are feeling and how they felt. Some are standing there with a plastic trophy trying to explain to me how it's not the trophy, it's something they want to look back on...


Problem is; if they keep it up... someone else may be looking back on it instead.


This is a world that I thrive in. I know that there are a lot of people here that do also. People will disagree with mis-chosen words, or they will know exactly what message I am attempting to convey.


And the irony? The irony is that I love seeing a muscular body that looks like an anatomy chart with a thin layer of Saran Wrap on it. So, what does that make me?


A schmoe? A thong-jockey lover? I actually like seeing the females shredded up more than the dudes. The females are always cool. The dudes always seem to have a severe attitude malfunction and can't handle their placings. The females are much more gracious. Not sure why that is....


Oh well... rambling again. My trademark.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2014, 10:53:30 PM
He ran several miles a day in the late 70's/early 80's, reducing his offseason bodyweight from 250-260 to 199 pounds. He slowly gained some of that back in the 80's, starting with Conan the Barbarian, but even during the filming of that movie he was between 212-220 pounds. He beefed up in 1984 to 240 pounds for The Terminator. He would never see that bodyweight again. By the early 1990's he was back down to 210-215 pounds. Today, a much shorter man (by close to 3"), I wonder was he weighs.


Wow. Arnold must have suffered a lot of spinal compression. I thought I was doing poorly with a loss of about 1 1/2 inches in height over the years. I am happy to say I am almost back down to what I weighed when I was 18 years old. My waist is still 2" larger though. I guess I need to work on that.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2014, 10:59:19 PM

So many people JUST DON'T KNOW what these competitors go through. I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's bitter-sweet.

When you are standing on that stage under the lights and you have gone meticulously and consistently through your contest prep THE WAY YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO... it is what is called a "near death experience" ~ yes, you are elated, especially if you are in the top 5 (REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHOW YOU ARE DOING) and you feel like you are dying.

If you end up placing even higher than the Top 5, you get a rush of adrenaline. Now, where that comes from nobody knows. Is it stored somewhere? The drugs have already done their job. Maybe it's the last of a Vic or a Perc that you popped?

It's the one last shred of ANYTHING you have left in you.


I wonder how many here have seen committed bodybuilders during EVERY STEP of their contest prep? I'm talking the 3 cardio sessions a day, where maybe you are watching their kid for them (Female or Male contender) and then the workouts, the borrowing of the gym's refrigerator so that they can eat the measly little bit of Talapia and Broccoli that they might have. At this point, there is no rice, no sweet potato, no Oatmeal, which would be considered a HUGE TREAT at this time.

They look at you, you can see that haven't been sleeping. They are starving. They still push out their cardio sessions. Sometimes the cardio is continued with bloody nose, or only God knows what, and they push. Unstoppable.

Regulars in the gym don't know what to think. They don't understand what they are seeing.

All that work. All that time. They literally LIVE AT THE GYM...

and the rest of us sit back and go "Oh, it's the drugs... I could be just like that if I did the same thing..." LMAO



NO, you couldn't.


[rant][/end rant]


I have 3 competitors right now who are gasping from a National Qualifier. Anyone in California knows exactly which show I'm talking about.

two more smaller shows coming up....


You wanna talk about the reality of a plastic trophy here?


Anyone here know where I'm coming from (even though I'm going off???) lol ~

Bodybuilding for me has always been about being healthier. There is no way in hell, I would ever have competed given what competitors go through. The possibility of a trophy and a little cash or if lucky a lucrative endorsement is just not worth it to me. Truth is, people outside the bodybuilding world, which is most people, probably think most bodybuilders are just freaks anyway.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: ESFitness on May 13, 2014, 11:08:42 PM

I think you may have mis-read or misunderstood what perspective I was taking.


It's cool. A lot get's lost in translation.


And I agree with your last statement. I am a third party. I don't claim to be a "guru" but I do what I can to help these "kids" stay safe during and after their contests. And by "kids" I mean '30 somethings' ~

The near death experience when dried out and possibly having used more, when more was not necessary... among other things...

I'll drop that for now. It get's to in depth.


Now, before and after these contests I am also dealing with multiple photographers in the gym... before and after. These competitors talk about how they are feeling and how they felt. Some are standing there with a plastic trophy trying to explain to me how it's not the trophy, it's something they want to look back on...


Problem is; if they keep it up... someone else may be looking back on it instead.


This is a world that I thrive in. I know that there are a lot of people here that do also. People will disagree with mis-chosen words, or they will know exactly what message I am attempting to convey.


And the irony? The irony is that I love seeing a muscular body that looks like an anatomy chart with a thin layer of Saran Wrap on it. So, what does that make me?


A schmoe? A thong-jockey lover? I actually like seeing the females shredded up more than the dudes. The females are always cool. The dudes always seem to have a severe attitude malfunction and can't handle their placings. The females are much more gracious. Not sure why that is....


Oh well... rambling again. My trademark.

I dunno abou tthat... I have the exact opposite experience. the women are split personality psycho's with hair-triggers.

a man has many years to learn how to behave with androgens in his bloodstream, even many times the 'normal' level... women don't. give a girl androgens and introduce stress (dieting for a show.. pressure to not embarrass herself onstage, ect..) and you have a volatile mix.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: dyslexic on May 14, 2014, 12:11:20 AM
I dunno abou tthat... I have the exact opposite experience. the women are split personality psycho's with hair-triggers.

a man has many years to learn how to behave with androgens in his bloodstream, even many times the 'normal' level... women don't. give a girl androgens and introduce stress (dieting for a show.. pressure to not embarrass herself onstage, ect..) and you have a volatile mix.


Makes sense.


I suppose I should just consider myself lucky.


I sure as hell ain't sayin' I'm right!




Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: deceiver on May 14, 2014, 02:12:38 AM
I think some people don't take into consideration how hard and long he trained. He allegedly trained for hours, twice a day. I train 4 times per week for 2-3 hours now doing a lot of volume with olympic lifts and basic lifts and it burns calories like hell. I have never dieted down on 2500-2700 calories... and I weight 74kg now. Imagine what could be caloric maintenance for 110kg monstrous Arnold training for 4h+ per day 6 times per week... I think anything below 3000 would be starvation.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: dyslexic on May 14, 2014, 02:23:03 AM
I think some people don't take into consideration how hard and long he trained. He allegedly trained for hours, twice a day. I train 4 times per week for 2-3 hours now doing a lot of volume with olympic lifts and basic lifts and it burns calories like hell. I have never dieted down on 2500-2700 calories... and I weight 74kg now. Imagine what could be caloric maintenance for 110kg monstrous Arnold training for 4h+ per day 6 times per week... I think anything below 3000 would be starvation.


Arnold ate a lot more than people think... also "clean eating" back then was a lot different than it is today.


I know the drugs and lipo have a lot to do with getting rid of low back fat, but he NEVER managed to do that like the competitors are forced to today.

He still had a good 10mm on his low back.


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/arnoldtwistingbackpose_zps0999f1ab.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/timeamajorova/media/arnoldtwistingbackpose_zps0999f1ab.jpg.html)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on May 15, 2014, 03:55:31 AM
Kidding aint ya, arnolds lower back was sick compared to most today, even had the xmas tree going on in the late 60's

Arnold ate a lot more than people think... also "clean eating" back then was a lot different than it is today.


I know the drugs and lipo have a lot to do with getting rid of low back fat, but he NEVER managed to do that like the competitors are forced to today.

He still had a good 10mm on his low back.


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/arnoldtwistingbackpose_zps0999f1ab.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/timeamajorova/media/arnoldtwistingbackpose_zps0999f1ab.jpg.html)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 15, 2014, 04:12:11 AM
Kidding aint ya, arnolds lower back was sick compared to most today, even had the xmas tree going on in the late 60's
arnold  ::) ::)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: BigRo on May 15, 2014, 04:36:25 AM
Arnold brought in and excellent xmas tree, glutes and hams were a bit undeveloped and undefined compared to the rest of him.

Halo your a black man in a white mans body, your love for Coleman is sickening.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 15, 2014, 04:41:50 AM
Arnold brought in and excellent xmas tree, glutes and hams were a bit undeveloped and undefined compared to the rest of him.

Halo your a black man in a white mans body, your love for Coleman is sickening.
i used to not like coleman, i considered him trash next to dexter jackson

but he grew on me


no homo


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 15, 2014, 05:18:08 AM
Any one has a bigger/better quality version of this pic?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520754;image)



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 15, 2014, 10:29:37 AM
He was 210 pounds for both "Twins" and "Red Heat"

In 1987, I working as a trainer at a gym in NYC where Arnold would train, when in town. I personally observed him step on a scale. He weighed 212.

You are correct, Sir.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on May 15, 2014, 10:46:09 AM
He was leaner and more defined in red heat than twins, 212 for red heat and heavier for twins surely.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on May 15, 2014, 04:27:26 PM
He weighed 212.

That's crazy.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 16, 2014, 06:41:11 AM
He weighted 228  here????    that's even crazier.



Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 16, 2014, 02:30:31 PM
Safe to say he juiced until 1988 for roles.

He bulked up for Terminator (1984) and later leaned out (got cut) for Commando (1985). He then started bulking a bit for Raw Deal (1986) and further in 1987 for The Running Man and then leaned out (got cut) for Predator and then gained a bit of weight for Twins and Red Heat (1988). By Total Recall (1990) and then T2 (1991) he was about 215 pounds and while muscular, he was pretty lean. 1993 (Last Action Hero) and then True Lies (1994), he had lost pretty much all his muscle. He regained a bit of it back for T3 (in 2003), but after that, came SERIOUS height loss (about 3" in height to this day) and serious overall muscle. He's never recovered.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on May 16, 2014, 02:59:43 PM
incorrect predator was filmed first, he had to gain the weight back for the running man, he lost 28lbs through illness and filming in the jungle heat.
Last action hero he was in excellent shape, chest big and solid and he was cut, you can see this in the behind the scenes pics and deleted scenes.
T3 he didn't just gain a bit back he was probably his biggest since the 80's


He bulked up for Terminator (1984) and later leaned out (got cut) for Commando (1985). He then started bulking a bit for Raw Deal (1986) and further in 1987 for The Running Man and then leaned out (got cut) for Predator and then gained a bit of weight for Twins and Red Heat (1988). By Total Recall (1990) and then T2 (1991) he was about 215 pounds and while muscular, he was pretty lean. 1993 (Last Action Hero) and then True Lies (1994), he had lost pretty much all his muscle. He regained a bit of it back for T3 (in 2003), but after that, came SERIOUS height loss (about 3" in height to this day) and serious overall muscle. He's never recovered.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on May 16, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
T3 he didn't just gain a bit back he was probably his biggest since the 80's
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlZWTgvqH6D8xRK-ULIm1zApoMwJrpMKY1OeGwyAk6Ul99qtGv)
(http://www.moviestillsdb.com/media/pictures/m/95/95a9197acc52af2c8b326e189f69fe22.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z8_zXhIpgyw/UE3BGq4VeLI/AAAAAAAADQU/ezPwxVGJUTQ/s1600/l_181852_715b36d6.jpg)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 27, 2014, 08:30:59 PM
1988 (age 41)  not too shabby either.



WooooSSSHHHHHHHHHH



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 27, 2014, 08:32:45 PM
Arnold and Bertil ....wonder if someone has more pics of them training together?


Wooosshhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 05, 2015, 04:40:29 AM
That's the face of only fish and water for several days.  

What's he only on deca and primo ?

Woosshhhhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: BigRo on February 05, 2015, 04:52:12 AM
1980 Olympia right...and Mike going on about him being out of shape lol


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on February 05, 2015, 06:25:48 AM
I just did an interview with Samir Bannout last night and he said Arnold was way off for the 1980 Mr. Olympia. He said Arnold looked great about a month out from the show and he would have won it easily if he looked like that but he hurt his shoulder and had to take a cortisol shot. The cortisol made him retain water and he was smooth at the show. Samir, who is a huge Arnold fan, said he shouldn't have placed in the top five.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Never1AShow on February 05, 2015, 06:33:08 AM
I just did an interview with Samir Bannout last night and he said Arnold was way off for the 1980 Mr. Olympia. He said Arnold looked great about a month out from the show and he would have won it easily if he looked like that but he hurt his shoulder and had to take a cortisol shot. The cortisol made him retain water and he was smooth at the show. Samir, who is a huge Arnold fan, said he shouldn't have placed in the top five.

Samir is not a credible source.  He has ego and memory issues.  I've seen him back in the late 80s earlier 90s leaning up against a palm tree at a local mall apparently high as a kite.  There was a time when he was -physique wise - a god among men.  Having that in your past can sometimes be a curse as you get older.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Lord Chronos on February 05, 2015, 06:47:39 AM
That's the face of only fish and water for several days.  

What's he only on deca and primo ?

Woosshhhhhhh

I assumed the Woosshhhhh in your posts was an automated signature, then I realised that your you are are typing them out each time as the numbers of "o" and "s" vary from post to post.

How long have you been doing this, is it like in every post going back thousands of posts?

Do you not get bored of having to type the woosshhh in every time you post, I guess not as you do it in ever post.

One thing we can be sure is that Arnold was on pharamecutical grade drugs and not the underground crap made in somebodies bath tub.



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on February 05, 2015, 06:48:12 AM
Samir is not a credible source.  He has ego and memory issues.  I've seen him back in the late 80s earlier 90s leaning up against a palm tree at a local mall apparently high as a kite.  There was a time when he was -physique wise - a god among men.  Having that in your past can sometimes be a curse as you get older.
I kind of agree with this, even though I'm a big fan of Samir, how could Arnold look good a month out if he hadn't even starting training yet?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 05, 2015, 08:31:33 AM
I assumed the Woosshhhhh in your posts was an automated signature, then I realised that your you are are typing them out each time as the numbers of "o" and "s" vary from post to post.

How long have you been doing this, is it like in every post going back thousands of posts?

Do you not get bored of having to type the woosshhh in every time you post, I guess not as you do it in ever post.

One thing we can be sure is that Arnold was on pharamecutical grade drugs and not the underground crap made in somebodies bath tub.




I agree, the pharmaceutical Grade drug Arnold was on during those 8 months in 1980 was great quality, made his muscle look less 'artificial" both flexing or relaxed, therefore more real than those of today... he had the best tan ever  that helped too  I guess.

As for the WOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHH;   A signature will be boring and predictable ....

Typing it in real time is like singing live ! ...

Besides people are always counting the "o" the "s" at the final of my posts , not knowing exactly what amounts of letters to expect ....



WOSH





Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 05, 2015, 08:38:22 AM
Samir is not a credible source.  He has ego and memory issues.  I've seen him back in the late 80s earlier 90s leaning up against a palm tree at a local mall apparently high as a kite.  There was a time when he was -physique wise - a god among men.  Having that in your past can sometimes be a curse as you get older.

QFT.

However, of all bodybuilders there, only Platz and Columbu think Arnold was the fair winner in Sydney..

I wish Sammir had personal photos, or any other contestant for that matter  backing up their claims

As every picture available from the contest has Arnold dwarfing, outmassing and looking as ripped as all of them .



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lean and dry !


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2015, 08:40:04 AM
QFT.

However, of all bodybuilders there, only Platz and Columbu think Arnold was the fair winner in Sydney..

I wish Sammir had personal photos, or any other contestant for that matter  backing up their claims

As every picture available from the contest has Arnold dwarfing, outmassing and looking as ripped as all of them .



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lean and dry !

pretty much,,,relaxed he wasn't as impressive as in earlier yrs,,but his conditioning was tenfold as ever and posed he looked dominant enough..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on February 05, 2015, 10:12:32 AM
Doesn't matter what samir thinks Arnold at 80 percent beat them all the pics and videos are there for proof. His thighs were slender in some shots but everyone else had more flaws and looked tiny next to him. Plus his conditioning was great, hardly out of shape.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: mazrim on February 05, 2015, 11:10:02 AM

Besides people are always counting the "o" the "s" at the final of my posts , not knowing exactly what amounts of letters to expect ....



WOSH




I know I do and that does add a bit of something extra/to look forward to.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on February 05, 2015, 01:13:50 PM
Doesn't matter what samir thinks Arnold at 80 percent beat them all the pics and videos are there for proof. His thighs were slender in some shots but everyone else had more flaws and looked tiny next to him. Plus his conditioning was great, hardly out of shape.

All you have to do is watch the video of the '80 Mr O.  Arnold was the best man on that stage that day... the best by a long shot.  People who deny this are lying to themselves.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 05, 2015, 01:59:25 PM
All you have to do is watch the video of the '80 Mr O.  Arnold was the best man on that stage that day... the best by a long shot.  People who deny this are lying to themselves.

Fact.

I don't understand people who can see the comparison pictures or video from that show and talk about Menzer, Zane or Dickerson winning.  Arnold wasn't at his all time best(especially in the legs) but he was head and shoulders above those guys.  Not even close.  His size, structure, lines and conditioning were just too much for these stumpy dwarfs to compete with. 

I swear people talk shit about that contest just as an attempt to sound smart.  Challenging the establishment and trying to act like they knew better.  Some people are just regurgitating bullshit they heard from that bitter mental patient Mike Mentzer.  He was the original bro scientist.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Tarantula157 on February 05, 2015, 08:41:09 PM
of all bodybuilders there, only Platz and Columbu think Arnold was the fair winner in Sydney..





WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lean and dry !

And Roy Callender.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on February 05, 2015, 08:45:33 PM
I kind of agree with this, even though I'm a big fan of Samir, how could Arnold look good a month out if he hadn't even starting training yet?

Arnold trained hard at least 8 weeks before the contest. If you see pictures of him training with Jusup Wilcosz and Franco, he looks great in the gym. Samir said that he hurt his shoulder and took a cortisone shot and this made him hold water. Samir saw him training at the gym, traveled to Australia with Arnold and saw him both onstage and off stage at the Olympia, up close, and yet he's not a credible source??


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on February 06, 2015, 02:50:22 AM
Maybe he did look better leading up to the contest but he still looked better than everyone else onstage. That's where samir is mistaken, Arnold wasn't competing against his gym self or 70's self. Plus Arnold's vascularity was at a new level on stage for him, so whatever he did wrong it worked out ok For his look in the end. I remember reading he busted his arse to work off that water retention.

Arnold trained hard at least 8 weeks before the contest. If you see pictures of him training with Jusup Wilcosz and Franco, he looks great in the gym. Samir said that he hurt his shoulder and took a cortisone shot and this made him hold water. Samir saw him training at the gym, traveled to Australia with Arnold and saw him both onstage and off stage at the Olympia, up close, and yet he's not a credible source??


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Tarantula157 on February 06, 2015, 03:05:29 AM
I just did an interview with Samir Bannout last night and he said Arnold was way off for the 1980 Mr. Olympia. He said Arnold looked great about a month out from the show and he would have won it easily if he looked like that but he hurt his shoulder and had to take a cortisol shot. The cortisol made him retain water and he was smooth at the show. Samir, who is a huge Arnold fan, said he shouldn't have placed in the top five.
How exactly Samir was able to compete and watch the contest at the same time(and this apply to the other competitors too)so he knows Arnold shouldn't be top 5?You competed many times yourself.Were you able to place the rest of your competition in order while you were competing against them?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 06, 2015, 04:35:46 AM
Unless he signs up here and tells us himself, we will never know.


Sad but true statement. 




Wooosshhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on February 06, 2015, 05:42:37 AM
How exactly Samir was able to compete and watch the contest at the same time(and this apply to the other competitors too)so he knows Arnold shouldn't be top 5?You competed many times yourself.Were you able to place the rest of your competition in order while you were competing against them?

I think you get a good idea of who is in shape and who isn't by how they look backstage. Samir was at the show and I wasn't so, in my opinion, that makes him a credible source.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: ARNIE1947 on February 06, 2015, 06:23:18 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 06, 2015, 09:24:39 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=597217;image)    8)


Ironically in the side chest (Arnold strong pose)  Dickerson looks more balanced overall.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Tarantula157 on February 06, 2015, 02:57:39 PM
I think you get a good idea of who is in shape and who isn't by how they look backstage. Samir was at the show and I wasn't so, in my opinion, that makes him a credible source.
Watching someone tanning or walking relaxed backstage,even pumping up is still not the same as watching the whole contest from the judges table or a very good sit in the hall.Some bodybuilders come alive more than others once they start posing and Arnold was one of them.Besides a good competitor doesn't necessarily makes a good judge and Samir proved it by placing Gustavo Badel ahead of Ronnie at the 2005 Olympia's challenge round.
 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Lord Chronos on February 08, 2015, 12:09:16 PM

I agree, the pharmaceutical Grade drug Arnold was on during those 8 months in 1980 was great quality, made his muscle look less 'artificial" both flexing or relaxed, therefore more real than those of today... he had the best tan ever  that helped too  I guess.

As for the WOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHH;   A signature will be boring and predictable ....

Typing it in real time is like singing live ! ...

Besides people are always counting the "o" the "s" at the final of my posts , not knowing exactly what amounts of letters to expect ....



WOSH


WOSH ;D ;D

Yes I guess there is the novelty factor there by varying the letters!

I think the lack of availability of real pharma grade drugs must play a part in the decline in the physique's we see today. Even the guys in the 90's probably built most of their foundation off the back of gear in the 80's as they were growing up. Who knows whats in UG stuff, in many cases you might order primo, but all your getting is watered down test. Im sure the chinese throw in a few contaminants for good measure.
Supplements probaly play a part too, creatine and NO2 supps probably have an effect. So many bodybuilders have this lifeless, exhausted look to their bodies and their muscles.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on February 08, 2015, 12:44:56 PM
WOSH ;D ;D

Yes I guess there is the novelty factor there by varying the letters!

I think the lack of availability of real pharma grade drugs must play a part in the decline in the physique's we see today. Even the guys in the 90's probably built most of their foundation off the back of gear in the 80's as they were growing up. Who knows whats in UG stuff, in many cases you might order primo, but all your getting is watered down test. Im sure the chinese throw in a few contaminants for good measure.
Supplements probaly play a part too, creatine and NO2 supps probably have an effect. So many bodybuilders have this lifeless, exhausted look to their bodies and their muscles.

In 1986 I remember some dude would come to the gym once a week and would sell 100% legit Parabolin, Primobolan, Anavar, Winny, D-bol, Anadrol and various forms of Test right out of his gym bag.  Those were the days boy.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thespritz0 on February 08, 2015, 01:35:39 PM


^^
Translated...

This image was taken on in Sydney. hard training, balanced diet and intake of amino-Vit brought me in just 77 days this form. It will bring you success like it did for me.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Lord Chronos on February 08, 2015, 03:59:29 PM
In 1986 I remember some dude would come to the gym once a week and would sell 100% legit Parabolin, Primobolan, Anavar, Winny, D-bol, Anadrol and various forms of Test right out of his gym bag.  Those were the days boy.

Nice ;D

All they had was pharma gear and real food, ok a few shitty supplements existed back then but really there was nothing else for them to play around with. Im sure thats why they looked so much better.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: old-school-lifter on February 08, 2015, 04:50:25 PM
80's guys pre contest were big on stanazol stanazol stanazol, plus anavar and tren


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2015, 10:41:40 AM
80's guys pre contest were big on stanazol stanazol stanazol, plus anavar and tren
winstrol yes and finajet another vet drug hardness look,ben Johnson had look down 'fibrous thick muscle'dude was ripped horse..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: ARNIE1947 on February 13, 2015, 08:40:07 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Master Blaster on February 13, 2015, 11:02:24 PM
 ;D

WOSH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Master Blaster on February 13, 2015, 11:03:59 PM
Insulin = todays shity "sport"


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 13, 2015, 11:36:26 PM

So many people JUST DON'T KNOW what these competitors go through. I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's bitter-sweet.

When you are standing on that stage under the lights and you have gone meticulously and consistently through your contest prep THE WAY YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO... it is what is called a "near death experience" ~ yes, you are elated, especially if you are in the top 5 (REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHOW YOU ARE DOING) and you feel like you are dying.

If you end up placing even higher than the Top 5, you get a rush of adrenaline. Now, where that comes from nobody knows. Is it stored somewhere? The drugs have already done their job. Maybe it's the last of a Vic or a Perc that you popped?

It's the one last shred of ANYTHING you have left in you.


I wonder how many here have seen committed bodybuilders during EVERY STEP of their contest prep? I'm talking the 3 cardio sessions a day, where maybe you are watching their kid for them (Female or Male contender) and then the workouts, the borrowing of the gym's refrigerator so that they can eat the measly little bit of Talapia and Broccoli that they might have. At this point, there is no rice, no sweet potato, no Oatmeal, which would be considered a HUGE TREAT at this time.

They look at you, you can see that haven't been sleeping. They are starving. They still push out their cardio sessions. Sometimes the cardio is continued with bloody nose, or only God knows what, and they push. Unstoppable.

Regulars in the gym don't know what to think. They don't understand what they are seeing.

All that work. All that time. They literally LIVE AT THE GYM...

and the rest of us sit back and go "Oh, it's the drugs... I could be just like that if I did the same thing..." LMAO



NO, you couldn't.


[rant][/end rant]


I have 3 competitors right now who are gasping from a National Qualifier. Anyone in California knows exactly which show I'm talking about.

two more smaller shows coming up....


You wanna talk about the reality of a plastic trophy here?


Anyone here know where I'm coming from (even though I'm going off???) lol ~
you described it very well..personally I do not believe in percs vics of be on zero carbs but the feeling is there..not a pleasant state of mind for sure


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on February 14, 2015, 01:42:01 PM
Wow, never seen that before, arnolds conditioning and separation were  outstanding. He looked really wide in 80 and his traps huge


8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: a_pupil on February 14, 2015, 02:09:10 PM
don't know why winnie gets a bad rep these days.

must be because ghteen said it was a shitty compound


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on February 14, 2015, 02:37:46 PM
Arnold brought in and excellent xmas tree, glutes and hams were a bit undeveloped and undefined compared to the rest of him.

Halo your a black man in a white mans body, your love for Coleman is sickening.

x2


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Lord Chronos on February 14, 2015, 03:43:51 PM
don't know why winnie gets a bad rep these days.

must be because ghteen said it was a shitty compound

you are probably right.

Winstol, primo, anavar I think they all gave those dry lean gains you saw in the old bodybuilders. Now its all about mass at all costs and bodybuilders swelling up like balloons.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: a_pupil on February 14, 2015, 05:30:47 PM
in the 1980 pics show the more streamlined version arnie could not hide the wide waist as good as before.

however, he was still numero uno. can't believe so many peopled melted down over such a clear victory. arnold trolled mike mentzer so bad, the poor guy turned into looney toon.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Montague on February 14, 2015, 06:40:50 PM
Although he was dehydrated and almost fainted twice during filming of Predator (he even went to see a doctor)

his leanest (lower BF) for a moviel roll was in Red Heat


According to Predator director, John McTiernan, most of the crew contracted Malaria while filming. That is why you can notice a difference in some of the actors' conditioning throughout the film - particularly Arnold and Jesse.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on February 14, 2015, 09:40:30 PM
(http://cdn.moviestillsdb.com/sm/8b621a158f3da39144c421f687221c89/red-heat.jpg)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
(http://cdn.moviestillsdb.com/sm/8b621a158f3da39144c421f687221c89/red-heat.jpg)
red heat,,,awesome considering he wasn't that young,,


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 15, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
red heat,,,awesome considering he wasn't that young,,


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 15, 2015, 06:40:34 PM
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 15, 2015, 06:41:44 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 15, 2015, 06:50:15 PM
the King of Kings  >:(  8)  :D  ;)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on February 16, 2015, 04:07:26 AM
Don't care for him that lean.

I think this was his best presentation ever in terms of mass and conditioning:

(http://zinemaniacos.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/t1-0011l.jpg)
(http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/reviews/the_terminator/image1full.jpg)
(http://www.jamescamerononline.com/griffithloc1.jpg)
(http://chelloveck.sfblogs.net/files/2011/02/Terminator-puppet.jpg)


Must've been at least 250-260 there.

Nope, he weighed 240 pounds during the filming of Terminator 1. There was an article in December 1984 issue of Muscle and Fitness.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on February 16, 2015, 04:11:55 AM

For Terminator he was 236 lbs....

His heaviest has been Conan the Destroyer, at the beginning of film Arnold was 236 same as T1, at the end I think he was 241 lbs. (he gained 5 lbs of lean mass) and you can really notice it if you have the dvd specially the scene where he is fighting the monster with the infamous horn .



Woooshhhhhhhhhhhh

In Conan the Barbarian, he averaged 220 pounds and went as low as 212 pounds for the scene where he's left for dead (1982 edition of Muscle and Fitness magazine).


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on February 16, 2015, 04:13:39 AM
In 1987, I working as a trainer at a gym in NYC where Arnold would train, when in town. I personally observed him step on a scale. He weighed 212.

You are correct, Sir.

He apparently weighed 215 pounds for T2.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on February 16, 2015, 04:16:21 AM
Arnold and Bertil ....wonder if someone has more pics of them training together?


Wooosshhhhhhhhhhh

Bertil was a beast there in 1980 (Around 260 pounds). Arnold on the other hand was somewhere between 210-220 pounds. His legs were like sticks in that picture.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 16, 2015, 01:48:36 PM
Lean !



Wooshhhhhhhh



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 10, 2015, 11:36:36 AM
Perfect tan &  physique for the summer !

 The man was dry ...




WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 10, 2015, 11:37:25 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 10, 2015, 11:38:50 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr.1derful on May 10, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Twins was out in 1988 and he was 230 pounds.

No way he was 230 in Twins.  210 - 215.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 11, 2015, 07:14:55 AM
No way he was 230 in Twins.  210 - 215.

According to Arnold himself, he was 210 pounds during the film of Red Heat , months later he gained over 10 lbs or so ... he filmed Twins early 1988 ..

And Guys like Don Cestone saw Arnold up close training at Golds during the filming of Twins and says Arnold was looking close to his 1980 form ... Arnold was doing heavy dumbell rows and the back started to look like his former self (he was 40) ... Even Lou asked him one morning if Arnold was attempting to make another comeback .
Dont remember what Arnold answered him but there's a funny anecdote behind it .



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on May 11, 2015, 01:54:35 PM
I remember an interview Arnold did for Ironman Magazine in 1988 and he said he was down to 210 pounds for both "Twins" and "Red Heat".


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 11, 2015, 08:22:09 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 11, 2015, 08:35:28 PM
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 11, 2015, 08:39:36 PM
W ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DSHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 11, 2015, 06:09:01 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: SuperTed on June 11, 2015, 06:43:39 AM
Nope, he weighed 240 pounds during the filming of Terminator 1. There was an article in December 1984 issue of Muscle and Fitness.

Surprised by that tbh. Thought he looked around 220lbs for T1.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on June 11, 2015, 11:30:37 AM
228 he said recently promoting genisys


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 12, 2015, 05:11:54 AM
Fish and water.  According to Ken Waller

Can you put up with that for more than 3 days ?


Woooshhhhh


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on June 14, 2015, 01:15:07 AM
Getting to be 250lb+ is a challenge, and requires lots of drugs and food.

Once you attain that size, you can maintain that size on less drugs and food.

Considering people diet for short periods of time, the risk of muscle loss is almost impossible.

Arnold was NOWHERE near 250 pounds in 1980. In fact, he was sub 200 in the late 70's, due to running every day. In 1980 he was somewhere between 210 and 220 on contest day, which is very lean for someone who was over 6'1" at that time.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 14, 2015, 07:03:06 AM
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=615681)

Anyone here know when Joe Gold first opened World's Gym?  '78-'79?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on June 14, 2015, 03:42:48 PM
Arnold was NOWHERE near 250 pounds in 1980. In fact, he was sub 200 in the late 70's, due to running every day. In 1980 he was somewhere between 210 and 220 on contest day, which is very lean for someone who was over 6'1" at that time.
I think I've read on here sonewhere 223-225.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Royal Lion on June 14, 2015, 07:37:01 PM
...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Nether Animal on June 14, 2015, 07:40:55 PM
Actually really like that look on him.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on June 14, 2015, 09:48:14 PM
I think I've read on here sonewhere 223-225.

MAX 220 pounds day of competition. He was up from 199 pounds in 1979 (PRE-Mr. Olympia training).


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Waller on June 15, 2015, 12:55:44 AM
Check out the game face on this dude. Does he want to hurt him or hump him?



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Svengoolie on June 15, 2015, 04:56:20 AM
Hurt through hump


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 23, 2015, 07:28:40 AM
Actually really like that look on him.





Those were the right supps back then .



WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Papper on June 23, 2015, 02:07:37 PM
I think I've read on here sonewhere 223-225.

I think he said in his recent interview he was 245 in '74. Then only went up to 220-230 tops for Pumping Iron.

Then the went down to 210 for a movie and up to around 220 again to win the 1980. He never got as big as in '74 again.

But I'm not good with weights, correct me if I am off here?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Diesel618 on June 23, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
lagging rear delts of peace


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thespritz0 on June 24, 2015, 09:41:15 AM
lagging rear delts of peace
^^
Wrong, all 3 heads of Delts are full, and jacked as hell...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thespritz0 on June 24, 2015, 09:45:24 AM
YEP...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 01, 2015, 05:16:25 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 09, 2015, 07:33:28 AM
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 12, 2015, 10:01:43 AM
The man went to the aesthetic lean territory and beat Zane and the gang.

Looking athletic and superior here.



Woooshhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: ARNIE1947 on July 12, 2015, 11:29:33 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Alucard on July 12, 2015, 11:46:12 AM
Lol, and there's still people that say he looked like shit and it was a blatant robbery... Arnold looked great, not at his best and most massive but still far above the competition, he was the winner fair and square, for sure not the 5'7 blocky Mentzer with a distended midsection...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 01, 2015, 07:28:55 AM
 ;D

Arnold, 5 years later coming back in  TERMINATOR mode Smoking everyone

I also woulnt mind to look that big and lean ....


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 01, 2015, 07:35:50 AM
 What drugs was he on to be this lean?  we would never know....but he was DRY




WooSSHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 01, 2015, 07:38:43 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 01, 2015, 07:54:32 AM
Bodybuilders of that era would simply go to the doctor who gave them their steroids and picked up some amphetamines or got some ephedrine at the store....that's pretty much it.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: a_pupil on October 01, 2015, 12:09:49 PM
all guys on the stage had full heads of hair except for the odd genetically doomed baldie (boyer coe)

nowadays most of the guys on stage are bald.

wonder if different juicing protocals are the cause.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2015, 12:51:31 PM
all guys on the stage had full heads of hair except for the odd genetically doomed baldie (boyer coe)

nowadays most of the guys on stage are bald.

wonder if different juicing protocals are the cause.

I once read that bald folks are further along on the evolutionary chain. Since I am bald, this theory was good for me.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on October 01, 2015, 01:15:15 PM
a report i read a couple of years back said new evidence was found that a certain protein and too much of it is the cause of baldness...

 
all guys on the stage had full heads of hair except for the odd genetically doomed baldie (boyer coe)

nowadays most of the guys on stage are bald.

wonder if different juicing protocals are the cause.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 01, 2015, 06:41:13 PM
That's the face that you couldn't get thru dieting alone !


WoooSSHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 01, 2015, 06:42:04 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 01, 2015, 06:47:17 PM
According to Arnold himself, he was 210 pounds during the film of Red Heat , months later he gained over 10 lbs or so ... he filmed Twins early 1988 ..

And Guys like Don Cestone saw Arnold up close training at Golds during the filming of Twins and says Arnold was looking close to his 1980 form ... Arnold was doing heavy dumbell rows and the back started to look like his former self (he was 40) ... Even Lou asked him one morning if Arnold was attempting to make another comeback .
Dont remember what Arnold answered him but there's a funny anecdote behind it .



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

And what did he weigh during Hercules in New York?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 01, 2015, 06:51:37 PM
According to Arnold himself, he was 210 pounds during the film of Red Heat , months later he gained over 10 lbs or so ... he filmed Twins early 1988 ..

And Guys like Don Cestone saw Arnold up close training at Golds during the filming of Twins and says Arnold was looking close to his 1980 form ... Arnold was doing heavy dumbell rows and the back started to look like his former self (he was 40) ... Even Lou asked him one morning if Arnold was attempting to make another comeback .
Dont remember what Arnold answered him but there's a funny anecdote behind it .



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I remember watching Twins and thinking he looked pretty jacked. Also, the first Terminator he looked as if he just stepped off the stage.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on October 01, 2015, 08:20:40 PM
That's the face that you couldn't get thru dieting alone !


WoooSSHHHHHHHHHH
No moon face or gut, he wouldn't place well today.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thespritz0 on October 01, 2015, 08:52:30 PM
Bodybuilders of that era would simply go to the doctor who gave them their steroids and picked up some amphetamines or got some ephedrine at the store....that's pretty much it.
^^
Actually you're 100% right on this, PRESCRIPTION amphetamines were very commonly available (DEXEDRINE)... this made dieting a breeze, for most people it shut off 50% of your hunger anyways,
and made you sweat like hell in the gym while working out!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextroamphetamine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextroamphetamine)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: The Wizard on October 02, 2015, 03:58:48 AM
Exactly! he retired  in 1975 the top names back then were Oliva,Ferrigno,Katz ,Waller etc all over 240 lbs...the following years  Arnold got off the sauce, his skin was really lose for a 30 year old guy 76,77,78, specially 1979,And don't forget,by 1980 the game had changed drastically, Zane,Robinso,Dickerson,Makawi,Mentzer etc were the ones dominating  "were ripped" and under 220 lbs... So by spring 1980 not only Arnold got lean but his skin was thinner than ever!!! with striations never before seen in his prime even the split chest...... I really doubt it was the same "Formula" he applied 10 years early the early 70's.




He may not have been the best in the world that year but this is his best look to me - Still doubt he hit each muscle 3 times a week year round


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 02, 2015, 06:07:51 AM
And what did he weigh during Hercules in New York?

he was 22 off season I'd say around 250 lbs .



WooSSHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 19, 2015, 08:42:45 PM
dry he was ....  


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Master Blaster on October 19, 2015, 10:41:38 PM
1980 Arnold is just destroying the competition...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 20, 2015, 06:17:48 AM
1980 Arnold is just destroying the competition...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 22, 2015, 05:25:15 PM
Despite the poor quality  picture, the Xmas three is rocking there  ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on November 22, 2015, 06:46:39 PM
1980 Arnold is just destroying the competition...

I just did an interview with Roger Walker from Australia for the Bodybuilding Legends Show and he said Arnold should have placed 8th.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2015, 06:49:48 PM
I just did an interview with Roger Walker from Australia for the Bodybuilding Legends Show and he said Arnold should have placed 8th.
depending on the pics ,angles.most all favor arnold tho,8th yeah right .he was dry and tight like never before for him,bigger yeah in 70's but nowhere this ripped no debate.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 22, 2015, 06:51:43 PM
I just did an interview with Roger Walker from Australia for the Bodybuilding Legends Show and he said Arnold should have placed 8th.

...WHAT ? 8th???

Look forward to listen to it .

Shit!!  1980 Mr.O is getting serious all over again !



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 22, 2015, 06:55:31 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thespritz0 on November 22, 2015, 07:11:50 PM
I just did an interview with Roger Walker from Australia for the Bodybuilding Legends Show and he said Arnold should have placed 8th.
^^
I don't see it posted on your YouTube page, John- do you have another link... I have to listen to this show!!!
P.S.  By the way I LOVED your show with Boyer Coe...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: ARNIE1947 on November 23, 2015, 06:36:59 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Nether Animal on November 23, 2015, 06:38:42 AM
^^
I don't see it posted on your YouTube page, John- do you have another link... I have to listen to this show!!!
P.S.  By the way I LOVED your show with Boyer Coe...

It's recorded but not finished yet. He has to splice pics and posing clips into the interview.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: ARNIE1947 on November 23, 2015, 06:40:02 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Disco187 on November 23, 2015, 06:51:29 AM
I used to watch the movie twins and used to imagine what it would be like to walk around with arnolds physique for a day. and be able to score a chick like that in the movie.  I was a youngster back then and to me that was the ideal physique.  I think arnold was the only physique i genuinely wanted to have. 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Nether Animal on November 23, 2015, 06:54:45 AM
:)

Monster lactating gyno on Walker.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: ARNIE1947 on November 23, 2015, 09:56:31 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on November 23, 2015, 04:54:36 PM
^^
I don't see it posted on your YouTube page, John- do you have another link... I have to listen to this show!!!
P.S.  By the way I LOVED your show with Boyer Coe...

It's not up yet. I just put up the Lee Haney interview part one. Part two should be up later this week and then I have a two part interview with Vince Taylor and Roger Walker will be up
after that.
http://www.floridaphysique.com/#!bodybuilding-legends/cxxh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 23, 2015, 05:39:03 PM
I just did an interview with Roger Walker from Australia for the Bodybuilding Legends Show and he said Arnold should have placed 8th.

Roger Walker is a funny guy.  Does he still have that ridiculous jew-fro hairstyle?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on November 23, 2015, 08:36:58 PM
Roger Walker is a funny guy.  Does he still have that ridiculous jew-fro hairstyle?

No, he's bald now


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 23, 2015, 08:51:55 PM
No, he's bald now

That's a shame.  By the way, he was great in that movie Carlito's Way.

(http://150597036.r.cdn77.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/hairseanpenn.jpg)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thespritz0 on November 23, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
It's not up yet. I just put up the Lee Haney interview part one. Part two should be up later this week and then I have a two part interview with Vince Taylor and Roger Walker will be up
after that.
http://www.floridaphysique.com/#!bodybuilding-legends/cxxh
^^
OK, and by the way the Lee Haney interview was great- amazing footage too of the old contests!!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Tarantula157 on November 23, 2015, 11:19:13 PM
:)
And Arnold was known for having a wide waist?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Tarantula157 on November 23, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
I just did an interview with Roger Walker from Australia for the Bodybuilding Legends Show and he said Arnold should have placed 8th.
If he says that it must be true.Not top 5 or outside top 5,but exactly 8-th.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Tarantula157 on November 23, 2015, 11:27:06 PM
8)
A rare back lat spread shot of Arnold and he looks good.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on November 24, 2015, 12:47:04 AM
^^
OK, and by the way the Lee Haney interview was great- amazing footage too of the old contests!!

Thank you! That video from the 1982 Mr. Universe was awesome. I couldn't believe how great Lee Haney looked for only 22 years old.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: pellius on November 24, 2015, 02:25:09 AM
Thank you! That video from the 1982 Mr. Universe was awesome. I couldn't believe how great Lee Haney looked for only 22 years old.

And Coleman is only 5 years younger. Essentially contemporaries age wise yet they are two generations apart in the bodybuilding world.
Lee retired at 32 yrs old after winning 8 Olympias and Coleman was 34 when he won his first Mr. O.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 24, 2015, 08:40:43 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on November 24, 2015, 08:49:47 AM
TO ARNOLDS CREDIT ...he came back and won in a deeper class and more competitiors...his prime day there was 2 guys to beat other than himself.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thespritz0 on November 24, 2015, 09:34:55 AM
Thank you! That video from the 1982 Mr. Universe was awesome. I couldn't believe how great Lee Haney looked for only 22 years old.
^^
Can you imagine how he would have looked if he would have had arms like Gunnar Rosbo??


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Tarantula157 on November 25, 2015, 11:56:32 PM
TO ARNOLDS CREDIT ...he came back and won in a deeper class and more competitiors...his prime day there was 2 guys to beat other than himself.
That was the original idea for the Mr.Olympia-only few competitors but the best of the best.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on November 27, 2015, 06:30:42 AM
That was the original idea for the Mr.Olympia-only few competitors but the best of the best.
makes sense...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 27, 2015, 03:29:35 PM
And Coleman is only 5 years younger. Essentially contemporaries age wise yet they are two generations apart in the bodybuilding world.
Lee retired at 32 yrs old after winning 8 Olympias and Coleman was 34 when he won his first Mr. O.
Lee did the smart thing


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: theworm on November 28, 2015, 01:17:39 PM
6-800 mg primo a week
400 deca
100 mg daily d Bol


There's the most likely senario

At least back in the 70s...



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: The Scott on November 28, 2015, 06:48:46 PM
I just did an interview with Roger Walker from Australia for the Bodybuilding Legends Show and he said Arnold should have placed 8th.

*SNICKER*  And do you believe him?  *SNICKER*

As for Haney, according to an old Weider infomercial he was all about the Weider supplements not stayroids.
Liar.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thespritz0 on November 28, 2015, 06:54:18 PM
*SNICKER*  And do you believe him?  *SNICKER*

As for Haney, according to an old Weider infomercial he was all about the Weider supplements not stayroids.
Liar.

^^
You're right, SCOTT and he calls himself a "Christian".


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: The Scott on November 28, 2015, 06:56:33 PM
^^
You're right, SCOTT and he calls himself a "Christian".

In truth, my faith is more and more slipping but that is my problem and I will not lie about it.  Haney?  Coleman?  Not so much. 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: oldschoolfan on November 28, 2015, 08:21:56 PM
arnold and mentzer top two for sure,


my two favorite bodybuilders of all time.




Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Eric2 on November 28, 2015, 08:34:02 PM
The only reason all the competitors where mad that Arnold had entered the show was they knew he'd win. They knew he was is and always will be the greatest. That's why they cried like little insecure bitches. Bodybuilders in general are all delusional, they see themselves as something they are not. I reAlly think the only exception was Arnold, who spoke openly in his book of his fear of certain competitors and how he knew he had to train harder to bring up his weak points. Arnold trained hard for the 1980, he just had less time to do it. Arnold in my opinion won this show hands down and the fact he did it last minute.Ute speaks for just how far ahead his genetics where than the others. Not just his training won the show, his stage presence, charisma, genetics all where part to kicking Ass. Had he the genetics of the others, would not have gone this way.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: pellius on November 28, 2015, 10:47:52 PM
The only reason all the competitors where mad that Arnold had entered the show was they knew he'd win. They knew he was is and always will be the greatest. That's why they cried like little insecure bitches. Bodybuilders in general are all delusional, they see themselves as something they are not. I reAlly think the only exception was Arnold, who spoke openly in his book of his fear of certain competitors and how he knew he had to train harder to bring up his weak points. Arnold trained hard for the 1980, he just had less time to do it. Arnold in my opinion won this show hands down and the fact he did it last minute.Ute speaks for just how far ahead his genetics where than the others. Not just his training won the show, his stage presence, charisma, genetics all where part to kicking Ass. Had he the genetics of the others, would not have gone this way.

They knew he would win because he was Arnold. His influence even got his Sardinian side kick a very undeserved victory in '81.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: muscularny on November 28, 2015, 11:13:43 PM
good genetics
serious dedication
good diet


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Nether Animal on November 28, 2015, 11:15:39 PM
^^
Can you imagine how he would have looked if he would have had arms like Gunnar Rosbo??

That's an awesome shot.  8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 30, 2015, 08:17:12 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on November 30, 2015, 08:22:52 AM
The only reason all the competitors where mad that Arnold had entered the show was they knew he'd win. They knew he was is and always will be the greatest. That's why they cried like little insecure bitches. Bodybuilders in general are all delusional, they see themselves as something they are not. I reAlly think the only exception was Arnold, who spoke openly in his book of his fear of certain competitors and how he knew he had to train harder to bring up his weak points. Arnold trained hard for the 1980, he just had less time to do it. Arnold in my opinion won this show hands down and the fact he did it last minute.Ute speaks for just how far ahead his genetics where than the others. Not just his training won the show, his stage presence, charisma, genetics all where part to kicking Ass. Had he the genetics of the others, would not have gone this way.

Nuthuggin' to a T.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on December 01, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Arnold looking like he did in 1980 today ... and all his movies would've been Blockbusters today .


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on December 01, 2015, 08:36:48 AM
228 lbs at 6'1"  never seemed so big .  at the height, the average bodybuilder would need to be at least 245 lbs to match his size .


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: spiro on December 01, 2015, 08:36:54 AM
6-800 mg primo a week
400 deca
100 mg daily d Bol


There's the most likely senario

At least back in the 70s...




For a swimmer maybe. I read some of your posts in the aas section you seem to be brainwashed about a lot of things.
These guys used grams of pharmacy grade gear. Look at all of the quality muscle. It takes a lot more than 400 deca to achieve that. What you posted is a gym rat cycle.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on December 01, 2015, 08:40:24 AM
This pic has been posted before,  this one has a bit better quality ...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on December 01, 2015, 08:43:28 AM
Wider than you know who  ;D

And Roy says he wasn't even top 8 that day .


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: theworm on December 01, 2015, 10:30:24 AM

For a swimmer maybe. I read some of your posts in the aas section you seem to be brainwashed about a lot of things.
These guys used grams of pharmacy grade gear. Look at all of the quality muscle. It takes a lot more than 400 deca to achieve that. What you posted is a gym rat cycle.

I doubt Arnold used 2 grams of primo...  You have to remember this was quality pharm grade drugs!


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on December 03, 2015, 04:07:55 AM
Here is Arnold T1 at 236 lbs

And then Conan the Destroyer at 241 lbs

Wonder if Arnold would have still been winning the Mr. O well into the 1980's?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on December 03, 2015, 05:08:03 AM
course he would, Haney would have been the only threat, provided he stayed injury free. Imo apart from having more detailed hams, peak arnold trumps him anyway and with time arnold would have been able to bring out those details.
Personally Arnold and Haney are the pinnacle of the Mr O, after them we got missing biceps, guts, bloat, bloof etc etc


Wonder if Arnold would have still been winning the Mr. O well into the 1980's?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: ritch on December 03, 2015, 05:25:29 AM
Wonder if Arnold would have still been winning the Mr. O well into the 1980's?

Easily. Look at the winners who followed Arnold until Haney. They never would have beat him.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: pellius on December 03, 2015, 05:33:36 AM
Easily. Look at the winners who followed Arnold until Haney. They never would have beat him.


x2 and if Arnold continued to improve, say come in at 255-60 in the same condition, which I think he could have done, he would have beaten Haney as well. He literally could have held the title for 15 years or more if it mattered to him. He was only 34 in 1980 and could have gone on well into his early forties like Zane, Dickerson and Dex did.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on December 03, 2015, 06:41:18 AM
x2 and if Arnold continued to improve, say come in at 255-60 in the same condition, which I think he could have done, he would have beaten Haney as well. He literally could have held the title for 15 years or more if it mattered to him. He was only 34 in 1980 and could have gone on well into his early forties like Zane, Dickerson and Dex did.
I think his waist would have looked interesting at that weight..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on December 03, 2015, 07:29:28 AM
Arnold was 252 or 254 at the 71 O, he thinks that was his best shape but pics an video show he was equally as big, thick and developed in 74 but better calves and quads, waist was fine as always.
Shame the footage from 71 and 74 isn't better.
I think his waist would have looked interesting at that weight..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on December 03, 2015, 08:20:42 AM
Arnold was 252 or 254 at the 71 O, he thinks that was his best shape but pics an video show he was equally as big, thick and developed in 74 but better calves and quads, waist was fine as always.
Shame the footage from 71 and 74 isn't better.
Holy shit, he's massive there.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Thespritz0 on December 03, 2015, 11:37:26 AM
I doubt Arnold used 2 grams of primo...  You have to remember this was quality pharm grade drugs!
^^
Ric Drasin said him, Franco and Arnie used to take 5 to 8 D-bols at every meal plus a BIG needle full of Primobolin every week in Gold's gym washroom!!
Probably a LOT of stuff in there!!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Nether Animal on December 03, 2015, 11:40:20 AM
Wider than you know who  ;D

And Roy says he wasn't even top 8 that day .

Walker looks great there.

Underrated physique.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: theworm on December 03, 2015, 11:54:29 AM
^^
Ric Drasin said him, Franco and Arnie used to take 5 to 8 D-bols at every meal plus a BIG needle full of Primobolin every week in Gold's gym washroom!!
Probably a LOT of stuff in there!!

Full syringe?   That's 600 mg then...   Don't think he used a 10cc syringe

Best case senario was 5cc, so maybe a gram at most.

The dbol was 5mg, right? So maybe 100-150 mg dbol daily.   

That's not much compared to today's standards


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on December 03, 2015, 11:59:20 AM
Full syringe?   That's 600 mg then...   Don't think he used a 10cc syringe

Best case senario was 5cc, so maybe a gram at most.

The dbol was 5mg, right? So maybe 100-150 mg dbol daily.   

That's not much compared to today's standards
TRUE...AND LOOK HOW HE LOOKED INSANE..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: theworm on December 03, 2015, 12:27:34 PM
TRUE...AND LOOK HOW HE LOOKED INSANE..

But that's all he did.   Ate and worked out all day.   I think much of his mass was from the dbol


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: njflex on December 03, 2015, 12:29:14 PM
But that's all he did.   Ate and worked out all day.   I think much of his mass was from the dbol
PROBABLY..NICE LIFE THEN..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on December 03, 2015, 12:40:37 PM
Have you watched the footage on youtube? He looks like a cartoon character, width, thickness and development is outstanding, imagine it in pumping iron quality. Funny really how people generally think 75 is his best simply coz of that film giving the contest the most exposure

Holy shit, he's massive there.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 06, 2016, 08:38:35 AM
 :D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 06, 2016, 08:55:37 AM
Arnold muscles in these two shots make Philsulin  and R.Piana look like they have counterfeit muscles.



WoooSHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Disgusted on January 06, 2016, 08:59:37 AM
Full syringe?   That's 600 mg then...   Don't think he used a 10cc syringe

Best case senario was 5cc, so maybe a gram at most.

The dbol was 5mg, right? So maybe 100-150 mg dbol daily.  

That's not much compared to today's standards

I got to use  real Dianabol once for my first show prescribed by my Dr. I took 2 daily the last 7 weeks from my show basically eating nothing. I gained 7 pounds! I can't even imagine what 20 a day would have done in the off season.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: The Scott on January 06, 2016, 10:26:54 AM
There's a reason Arnold is Numero Uno.   I think 74 was his best year but from 71 through 74 he was at his best.  In 75 he was still the best and when he returned in 80 he was still the best.  I have him first and Mentzer or Zane in second with the other being in third.  Dickerson doesn't even belong on that stage, let alone in second.   

He could have held the title for a ridiculously long time but there was another career to be launched and more money to be made.   Arnold is smarter than anyone that's followed him.

Today's bodybuilders lack the work ethic and self pride to do what the Oak has done.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on January 06, 2016, 01:38:27 PM
Well put.
There's a reason Arnold is Numero Uno.   I think 74 was his best year but from 71 through 74 he was at his best.  In 75 he was still the best and when he returned in 80 he was still the best.  I have him first and Mentzer or Zane in second with the other being in third.  Dickerson doesn't even belong on that stage, let alone in second.   

He could have held the title for a ridiculously long time but there was another career to be launched and more money to be made.   Arnold is smarter than anyone that's followed him.

Today's bodybuilders lack the work ethic and self pride to do what the Oak has done.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 06, 2016, 06:17:48 PM
 ;D


Arnold 1980 is the best inspiration for anyone who wants to start dieting  ....


woshh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 06, 2016, 09:04:27 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on January 07, 2016, 04:02:11 AM
There's a reason Arnold is Numero Uno.   I think 74 was his best year but from 71 through 74 he was at his best.  In 75 he was still the best and when he returned in 80 he was still the best.  I have him first and Mentzer or Zane in second with the other being in third.  Dickerson doesn't even belong on that stage, let alone in second.   

He could have held the title for a ridiculously long time but there was another career to be launched and more money to be made.   Arnold is smarter than anyone that's followed him.

Today's bodybuilders lack the work ethic and self pride to do what the Oak has done.

Exactly. He was already the best by a long way at that point someone like him would be a bit over it and looking for new things to conquer.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: trapz101 on January 07, 2016, 06:44:06 AM
:D


who's that little bitch standing in front of mentzer?

 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: crownshep on January 07, 2016, 07:37:56 AM
There's a reason Arnold is Numero Uno.   I think 74 was his best year but from 71 through 74 he was at his best.  In 75 he was still the best and when he returned in 80 he was still the best.  I have him first and Mentzer or Zane in second with the other being in third.  Dickerson doesn't even belong on that stage, let alone in second.   

He could have held the title for a ridiculously long time but there was another career to be launched and more money to be made.   Arnold is smarter than anyone that's followed him.

Today's bodybuilders lack the work ethic and self pride to do what the Oak has done.

At his biggest and best in 74


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on January 07, 2016, 08:19:52 AM
At his biggest and best in 74
How awesome would it be to wake up looking like that?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Yamcha on January 07, 2016, 09:29:51 AM
How awesome would it be to wake up looking like next to that?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 07, 2016, 02:13:25 PM
At his biggest and best in 74

His biggest and best was in 1971

sadly, the videos and photos from 1971 are rare and bad quality

Arnold won it unopposed; therefore J Weider didn't feel like printing pictures of the show under such circumstances.



WOOOSSHHHHHHH

 



WoooSHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - Pictures and comments
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 07, 2016, 09:01:44 PM
Back to 1980 ...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 27, 2016, 08:33:57 AM
 The face says it all    ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: OB1 on January 27, 2016, 09:27:26 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=668002;image)
The face says it all    ;D

What does it say?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on January 27, 2016, 09:58:38 AM
What does it say?

^^
It says I need "Moah Clen, T-3, and Winstrol Franco you little Bastard"!!!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:05 PM
I know this is about 1980 Arnold. Here is 1974 Arnold.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 28, 2016, 06:43:17 AM
This is the the most aesthetic shot I have ever seen ...yes better than Zane and Paris.

1980 He was on point


WooSHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: DanzigBrah on January 28, 2016, 07:16:42 AM
Too bad he didn't show up like that. Plus the wheels were gone and never coming back.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 28, 2016, 07:20:53 AM
the decent high quality images show he probably had his best conditioning ever
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/12/013-1.jpg)


Too bad he didn't show up like that. Plus the wheels were gone and never coming back.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: YngiweRhoads on January 28, 2016, 09:06:32 AM
the decent high quality images show he probably had his best conditioning ever
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/12/013-1.jpg)



Looks like Boyer Coe's abs.

(http://blog.nccpt.com/wp-content/uploads/BOYER-COE-PHOTO-10.jpg)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 28, 2016, 11:21:53 AM
1980 Arnold's leanest year


wooshhhhhh


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: funk51 on January 28, 2016, 11:35:47 AM
Duchaine was one ugly mofo.
and that was one of his better pictures with the rock star hair ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: funk51 on January 28, 2016, 11:37:37 AM
at his biggest 19-20 years old.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: funk51 on January 28, 2016, 11:38:53 AM
a little later.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: funk51 on January 28, 2016, 11:40:02 AM
than still later the defined arnold... ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 28, 2016, 12:34:49 PM
Gotta disagree there, he was much bigger and developed 70-74, look at his guest posing at the mr southern hemisphere 1974, he was monstrous compared to this.

at his biggest 19-20 years old.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 29, 2016, 06:17:33 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on January 29, 2016, 09:35:53 AM
Gotta disagree there, he was much bigger and developed 70-74, look at his guest posing at the mr southern hemisphere 1974, he was monstrous compared to this.

^^
Here it is!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjnMED9jK1c


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: theworm on January 30, 2016, 06:06:29 AM
^^
Here it is!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjnMED9jK1c
Hard to believe he was prob on dbol maybe 600 primo and plus or minus deca and looked that good...

maybe he just trained hard.  I see guys today on 3 grams of gear and are 1/10th the size


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on January 30, 2016, 06:25:13 AM
arnold was the man

does anyone know his diet for the 80 olympia

him and mike mentzer will always be my top two favorite bodybuilders.  no way mike was 5th that day he should have been second at worst


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on January 30, 2016, 06:26:29 AM
Hard to believe he was prob on dbol maybe 600 primo and plus or minus deca and looked that good...

maybe he just trained hard.  I see guys today on 3 grams of gear and are 1/10th the size


hey worm i used to talk to casey viator, he told me arnolds pre contest routine was brutal and would kill most pros.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: theworm on January 30, 2016, 07:51:19 AM

hey worm i used to talk to casey viator, he told me arnolds pre contest routine was brutal and would kill most pros.
He say what he used?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: 6 Reps on January 30, 2016, 08:33:22 AM
There is a video of Arnold and this 1980 Mr. O contest:


http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=products&template=PRODUCTCAT&catid=8&prodid=1006&site=1   (http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=products&template=PRODUCTCAT&catid=8&prodid=1006&site=1)


Btw, in the original Pumping Iron book (1974) Arnold's weight is listed as 235.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on January 30, 2016, 09:10:22 AM
Hard to believe he was prob on dbol maybe 600 primo and plus or minus deca and looked that good...

maybe he just trained hard.  I see guys today on 3 grams of gear and are 1/10th the size
^^
He used to systematically OVERTRAIN, and had a pretty big appetite according to his former workout partner Ric Drasin (see his YouTube channel for his Arnold stuff)
The gear is best suited for that, it is MEANT to treat medical conditions such as Muscle Wasting, depletion, etc... the guys these days train for 45min and take WAY too much shit...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 30, 2016, 10:07:26 AM
yea funny that considering he was never the same weight each contest and was probably only that at the 75 O.

There is a video of Arnold and this 1980 Mr. O contest:


http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=products&template=PRODUCTCAT&catid=8&prodid=1006&site=1   (http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=products&template=PRODUCTCAT&catid=8&prodid=1006&site=1)


Btw, in the original Pumping Iron book (1974) Arnold's weight is listed as 235.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hipolito mejia on February 02, 2016, 08:02:39 AM
There is a video of Arnold and this 1980 Mr. O contest:


http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=products&template=PRODUCTCAT&catid=8&prodid=1006&site=1   (http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=products&template=PRODUCTCAT&catid=8&prodid=1006&site=1)


Btw, in the original Pumping Iron book (1974) Arnold's weight is listed as 235.

He was 237. In 1974 MrO

Leading to 1980 show he was 225 ... Not sure how much he weighted on stage in Sydney though


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on February 02, 2016, 11:14:00 AM
I've seen 242 and 247 for the 74 before, 247 definitely looks more like it.
He was 237. In 1974 MrO

Leading to 1980 show he was 225 ... Not sure how much he weighted on stage in Sydney though


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on February 02, 2016, 02:20:39 PM
He was 237. In 1974 MrO

Leading to 1980 show he was 225 ... Not sure how much he weighted on stage in Sydney though
^^
I really wonder if a group of 10 or 15 bodybuilders watched his entire routine at the 1980 Mr. O
and had to try to guess his weight, what would they say- OR would the answers be all over the map????
FAST FORWARD TO 2:15, GetBiggers give your opinion!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM8NkhGcPXo


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 02, 2016, 10:40:44 PM
That's the leanest Arnold Wooshhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hipolito mejia on February 03, 2016, 09:14:23 PM
I've seen 242 and 247 for the 74 before, 247 definitely looks more like it.

I know , hard to believe he was under 240 lbs in 1974. But Arnold has said he was 237 on stage , he went up to 242 day after ( according to the man himself anyway)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 08, 2016, 06:17:44 AM
Arnold winning his 7th Mr.O and first sandow ...plus some cash ..... Not too shabby





WooOSHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 11, 2016, 07:12:17 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 11, 2016, 07:14:33 AM
Lean dry Champ


WooSHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 11, 2016, 07:24:10 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 11, 2016, 01:46:59 PM
 :D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: mong on April 11, 2016, 10:42:22 PM
May as well throw in my 2 cents.I was there......at one point sitting right next to that big camera in the aisle. Finals....right behind Joe Weider who actually turned round and asked...do u think Arnold should've won? Admittedly I didn't have a very experienced eye at the time but in my humble opinion Arnold shouldn't have won. For my money...Zane...smaller yes but better proportioned, more complete, better posing. Arnold was sweating bullets. Franco even came on stage to towel him off. Must say the images in that big movie camera looked different to what I  was seeing on stage. Saw Arnold the next day at Vince's gym. Up close it was hard to believe the night b4 he had been announced the best in the world.Franco was giving a seminar.....couldn't believe how short he was and his amazing lat spread.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2016, 05:26:08 AM
May as well throw in my 2 cents.I was there......at one point sitting right next to that big camera in the aisle. Finals....right behind Joe Weider who actually turned round and asked...do u think Arnold should've won? Admittedly I didn't have a very experienced eye at the time but in my humble opinion Arnold shouldn't have won. For my money...Zane...smaller yes but better proportioned, more complete, better posing. Arnold was sweating bullets. Franco even came on stage to towel him off. Must say the images in that big movie camera looked different to what I  was seeing on stage. Saw Arnold the next day at Vince's gym. Up close it was hard to believe the night b4 he had been announced the best in the world.Franco was giving a seminar.....couldn't believe how short he was and his amazing lat spread.
interesting take..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 12, 2016, 05:47:20 AM
May as well throw in my 2 cents.I was there......at one point sitting right next to that big camera in the aisle. Finals....right behind Joe Weider who actually turned round and asked...do u think Arnold should've won? Admittedly I didn't have a very experienced eye at the time but in my humble opinion Arnold shouldn't have won. For my money...Zane...smaller yes but better proportioned, more complete, better posing. Arnold was sweating bullets. Franco even came on stage to towel him off. Must say the images in that big movie camera looked different to what I  was seeing on stage. Saw Arnold the next day at Vince's gym. Up close it was hard to believe the night b4 he had been announced the best in the world.Franco was giving a seminar.....couldn't believe how short he was and his amazing lat spread.

So, did you tell Weider that Zane should've won ?


WooSHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Julio Ceasar on April 12, 2016, 07:11:26 AM
Age make u leaner.

Just compare your legs arms chest back from your early days. IF u still strain that much!

If u continue doing hard work u will have gh look night and day without gear in your 50-60ies if u keep diet. Triffic! Isent it!

There is no 20yr old kid in the gym that ha arm leg separations. Milky babies! Quality come with age diet and hard work!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: mong on April 13, 2016, 03:36:25 AM
Ha I did not get a chance to answer old Joe. My mate jumped in and spoke for me! The place was in an uproar....lotta booing.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 28, 2016, 07:21:27 AM
The man was lean in 1980 !

I wonder if he took anything to detox liver at the end of such victorious year .


WooOSHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on April 28, 2016, 08:08:36 AM
I loved Arnold's look that year, his conditioning was stellar. Others looked their best that year, but had flaws. Roger Walker was huge but had crippling gyno, Mentzer's chest seemed to disappear in certain shots, etc.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 28, 2016, 01:20:41 PM
I loved Arnold's look that year, his conditioning was stellar. Others looked their best that year, but had flaws. Roger Walker was huge but had crippling gyno, Mentzer's chest seemed to disappear in certain shots, etc.

Don't we all ?


WooSHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 28, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 28, 2016, 01:23:45 PM
WooSSHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: _bruce_ on April 29, 2016, 04:27:01 AM
May as well throw in my 2 cents.I was there......at one point sitting right next to that big camera in the aisle. Finals....right behind Joe Weider who actually turned round and asked...do u think Arnold should've won? Admittedly I didn't have a very experienced eye at the time but in my humble opinion Arnold shouldn't have won. For my money...Zane...smaller yes but better proportioned, more complete, better posing. Arnold was sweating bullets. Franco even came on stage to towel him off. Must say the images in that big movie camera looked different to what I  was seeing on stage. Saw Arnold the next day at Vince's gym. Up close it was hard to believe the night b4 he had been announced the best in the world.Franco was giving a seminar.....couldn't believe how short he was and his amazing lat spread.

Interesting - I heard Franco was 4'3" on a good day. Not to forget, a great boxer.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 29, 2016, 06:17:50 AM
I loved Arnold's look that year, his conditioning was stellar. Others looked their best that year, but had flaws. Roger Walker was huge but had crippling gyno, Mentzer's chest seemed to disappear in certain shots, etc.

I find it funny how some people say Mentzer should've won... he was flat as a pancake.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on April 29, 2016, 06:53:57 AM
I find it funny how some people say Mentzer should've won... he was flat as a pancake.

Yeah, I can't get behind that at all.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 29, 2016, 07:47:35 AM
I find it funny how some people say Mentzer should've won... he was flat as a pancake.


WooOSHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 29, 2016, 07:50:52 AM
WOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 29, 2016, 07:53:11 AM
I find it funny how some people say Mentzer should've won... he was flat as a pancake.

Agreed. No chest, no width. He wasn't bad, just a boring physique.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on April 29, 2016, 08:34:23 PM
Arnold in 1st and either Zane or Mentzer in 2nd with the other in 3rd because it could have gone either way with those two. But the Oak for the win. 

Years later I still think the only reason Haney got 8 wins is Weider thought Arnold was getting too big for his own britches.  There are several times when Haney should have lost to better physiques.  Same with that sad sack o' shit, Coleman.  Overrated pile of fly's delight if ever there were one.

Back to 1980...Dickerson doesn't even belong on the stage. Pointy elbowed, Curious George lookalike of peace.

Or something to that effect.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 30, 2016, 01:34:11 AM
Arnold in 1st and either Zane or Mentzer in 2nd with the other in 3rd because it could have gone either way with those two. But the Oak for the win. 

Years later I still think the only reason Haney got 8 wins is Weider thought Arnold was getting too big for his own britches.  There are several times when Haney should have lost to better physiques.  Same with that sad sack o' shit, Coleman.  Overrated pile of fly's delight if ever there were one.

Back to 1980...Dickerson doesn't even belong on the stage. Pointy elbowed, Curious George lookalike of peace.

Or something to that effect.

scott i love your views and they are dead on. i never seen the appeal in ronnie coleman what  i always found strange was when coleman was on the olympia stage and he would turn around  and pull his thong up into his giant black ass, and grown men in the crowd would go crazy.



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on April 30, 2016, 06:29:17 AM
Agreed.
scott i love your views and they are dead on. i never seen the appeal in ronnie coleman what  i always found strange was when coleman was on the olympia stage and he would turn around  and pull his thong up into his giant black ass, and grown men in the crowd would go crazy.




Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on April 30, 2016, 12:18:43 PM
According to Arnold himself, he was 210 pounds during the film of Red Heat , months later he gained over 10 lbs or so ... he filmed Twins early 1988 ..

And Guys like Don Cestone saw Arnold up close training at Golds during the filming of Twins and says Arnold was looking close to his 1980 form ... Arnold was doing heavy dumbell rows and the back started to look like his former self (he was 40) ... Even Lou asked him one morning if Arnold was attempting to make another comeback .
Dont remember what Arnold answered him but there's a funny anecdote behind it .



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

This and they even mention in the movie about how Arnold's character is a 230 pound virgin (Danny Devito says it).


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on April 30, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
And what did he weigh during Hercules in New York?

250 pounds. His heaviest weight in any movie he's ever done.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Dr Dutch on April 30, 2016, 12:25:30 PM
250 pounds. His heaviest weight in any movie he's ever done.
But a bit smooth though..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on April 30, 2016, 12:33:12 PM
But a bit smooth though..

Definitely smooth.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on April 30, 2016, 02:28:33 PM
and nowhere near as developed, freaky or thick as peak 1974.
But a bit smooth though..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 30, 2016, 04:23:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVnMecXPafM

what does he weigh here? 190?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Danimal77 on April 30, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
Arnold in 1st and either Zane or Mentzer in 2nd with the other in 3rd because it could have gone either way with those two. But the Oak for the win. 

Years later I still think the only reason Haney got 8 wins is Weider thought Arnold was getting too big for his own britches.  There are several times when Haney should have lost to better physiques.  Same with that sad sack o' shit, Coleman.  Overrated pile of fly's delight if ever there were one.

Back to 1980...Dickerson doesn't even belong on the stage. Pointy elbowed, Curious George lookalike of peace.

Or something to that effect.

Yet Dickerson WON in 1982 which blow my mind, considering he was a million times worse than he was in 1980 and 1981.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Danimal77 on April 30, 2016, 07:49:45 PM
scott i love your views and they are dead on. i never seen the appeal in ronnie coleman what  i always found strange was when coleman was on the olympia stage and he would turn around  and pull his thong up into his giant black ass, and grown men in the crowd would go crazy.



Does it surprise you that grown men would go crazy at the sight of a grown man's ass? You've been on getbig long enough to know that that's the only reason 98% of people are into bodybuilders... No homo.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on April 30, 2016, 07:52:38 PM
and nowhere near as developed, freaky or thick as peak 1974.

or even as developed, freaky or thick he was in 1971...



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Danimal77 on April 30, 2016, 08:00:41 PM
1974  :o



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 30, 2016, 08:03:09 PM
Does it surprise you that grown men would go crazy at the sight of a grown man's ass? You've been on getbig long enough to know that that's the only reason 98% of people are into bodybuilders... No homo.

ha ha you got that right bro,   getbig is for the inner gay in all of us


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on April 30, 2016, 08:18:50 PM
Yet Dickerson WON in 1982 which blow my mind, considering he was a million times worse than he was in 1980 and 1981.

Yup. Out of his league.  Again.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 30, 2016, 10:13:53 PM
mike was killing arnold in the waist and ab department though.



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on May 01, 2016, 02:07:06 AM
Mike had genetically more rows of abs, wouldn't say they were better and Arnold's midsection was much shallower, mike's looked thick and bloated and chest not developed enough on top of it.

mike was killing arnold in the waist and ab department though.




Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 01, 2016, 09:10:32 AM
and nowhere near as developed, freaky or thick as peak 1974.

71' Was his freakiest year.   He had the knee injury in 72, so he never went over 240 on stage after.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Griffith on May 01, 2016, 10:50:30 AM
Mike had genetically more rows of abs, wouldn't say they were better and Arnold's midsection was much shallower, mike's looked thick and bloated and chest not developed enough on top of it.


He probably should have added some volume to his chest workouts and reduced directly training his waist with weights.

But of course, this would have gone against his training philosophy...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Viking11 on May 01, 2016, 06:07:00 PM
He probably should have added some volume to his chest workouts and reduced directly training his waist with weights.

But of course, this would have gone against his training philosophy...

He did do that early in his career. . He got up to 40 sets for pecs. His gains stalled and he was tired all year time.  His bigger issue was he had a sluggish metabolism,   he told me he would get down to 800 calories a day before a show to get ripped.  Your weaker body parts suffer when you diet so strictly.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 01, 2016, 07:43:22 PM
71' Was his freakiest year.   He had the knee injury in 72, so he never went over 240 on stage after.

He was massive in 1974. Pretty sure he was high 240's the day of the Mr. O, wasn't he?


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on May 01, 2016, 10:11:54 PM
He was massive in 1974. Pretty sure he was high 240's the day of the Mr. O, wasn't he?

237


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on May 02, 2016, 01:53:35 AM
He did do that early in his career. . He got up to 40 sets for pecs. His gains stalled and he was tired all year time.  His bigger issue was he had a sluggish metabolism,   he told me he would get down to 800 calories a day before a show to get ripped.  Your weaker body parts suffer when you diet so strictly.

hey viking  could  you share with us more of your convos with mike, i read also he went super low in calories


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 02, 2016, 03:39:06 AM
He was massive in 1974. Pretty sure he was high 240's the day of the Mr. O, wasn't he?

While I agree with you that Arnold looks about 245 lbs,  he says he was 237 in 74.

71 he was bigger  but you can't really tell judging from the very few photos available. not May pics to make a fair comparison


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hazbin on May 02, 2016, 10:47:51 AM
While I agree with you that Arnold looks about 245 lbs,  he says he was 237 in 74.

71 he was bigger  but you can't really tell judging from the very few photos available. not May pics to make a fair comparison

weird how that works.  my heaviest onstage weight was 239 and I'm less than 5'10.  yet I never looked like I was in the same sport as Arnold.  some guys are heavier than they look, some guys are lighter than they look.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: TheShape. on May 02, 2016, 10:50:30 AM
weird how that works.  my heaviest onstage weight was 239 and I'm less than 5'10.  yet I never looked like I was in the same sport as Arnold.  some guys are heavier than they look, some guys are lighter than they look.
Must be the weight distribution and skeletal structure that comes into play. Not to mention muscle bellies and body fat also taken into consideration.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 02, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 02, 2016, 03:13:19 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hazbin on May 02, 2016, 05:08:57 PM
Must be the weight distribution and skeletal structure that comes into play. Not to mention muscle bellies and body fat also taken into consideration.

you look at mma matchups.  the weight classes are very tight and most guys usually way identical. yet one guy looks like he weighs 30 lbs. more. ???


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 02, 2016, 08:40:15 PM
While I agree with you that Arnold looks about 245 lbs,  he says he was 237 in 74.

71 he was bigger  but you can't really tell judging from the very few photos available. not May pics to make a fair comparison



If that's what only 237 looks like (1974 Mr. O pic), than he weighed max 220 in 1975 and at best 210-212 in 1980.



Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Bevo on May 03, 2016, 01:47:25 AM


If that's what only 237 looks like (1974 Mr. O pic), than he weighed max 220 in 1975 and at best 210-212 in 1980.



Me and Arnold are around the same height, I'm 6'2 bare feet and always lean give or take 205-210, my guess is Arnold in 1980 was around 215 max, conditioning over size

Crazy how we have 212 competitors who are 5'4 in height these days imo that doesn't look good at all carrying that much weight being that short, even Lee priest who is 5'4 looked his best around the 199 mark I think


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 03, 2016, 03:23:21 AM


If that's what only 237 looks like (1974 Mr. O pic), than he weighed max 220 in 1975 and at best 210-212 in 1980.



im sure Arnold's weight in 1980 was mention in this thread already. 




Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 03, 2016, 05:32:08 AM
Arnold has said in a recent interview that he weighed 245-246 in 1974.  It did not mention if that was in contest shape or not.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on May 03, 2016, 08:52:27 AM
I don't think arnold is too sure himself, as I have seen him say he was 240's for 1974.

Arnold has said in a recent interview that he weighed 245-246 in 1974.  It did not mention if that was in contest shape or not.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 03, 2016, 01:11:40 PM
and nowhere near as developed, freaky or thick as peak 1974.
Too bad there ain't much (if any decent) footage from the 74 O (when Arnold was at his best) or the 72 O when he won, but should have been demolished by Sergio.......


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 03, 2016, 07:45:35 PM
His weight is only relative to his height. I know they have him listed as 6'2" but many say he was only 6'0" on a good day. 


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Natural_O on May 03, 2016, 08:27:59 PM


If that's what only 237 looks like (1974 Mr. O pic), than he weighed max 220 in 1975 and at best 210-212 in 1980.



He was 225 for the '75 Olympia, I'm not sure what he was in 1980, probably around 220.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 04, 2016, 12:47:43 PM
Arnold in 1980 not only was he ripped; but was the biggest guy on stage !



WooShhhhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on May 04, 2016, 03:56:36 PM
look at the way his lat literally snakes into his waist here, awesome relaxed shot
Arnold in 1980 not only was he ripped; but was the biggest guy on stage !



WooShhhhhhh


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 04, 2016, 09:34:40 PM
Me and Arnold are around the same height, I'm 6'2 bare feet and always lean give or take 205-210, my guess is Arnold in 1980 was around 215 max, conditioning over size

Crazy how we have 212 competitors who are 5'4 in height these days imo that doesn't look good at all carrying that much weight being that short, even Lee priest who is 5'4 looked his best around the 199 mark I think

Btw, Arnold has lost a tremendous amount of height in recent years (easily 3"). I met him in 2002 at the Arnold's. I'm 5'10" and he had 3-4" on me at that time. I had to lean back my head to look up to him. I saw him again last year at the Arnolds. He was fractionally taller than me, but the difference in height was virtually unnoticeable. Poor guy. His entire upper body has collapsed. He's extremely compressed (spine/neck). He's also had a hip replacement which shaved off some height as well.

Now as for weight, I can tell you that 205-210 at 6'2" is very lean. I went as high as 240 when I lived in the gym. Today I'm in my 190's and look lean. Lee Priest going up to 270 in the offseason at 5'3" is as ridiculous as Yates going up to 305 and Ronnie and Nasser going up to 330 (all 3 guys were around my height...5'10"ish). Arnold gave off the illusion of weighing much more than he actually did. I always wondered what he would have looked like at 280 as he joked with Lou at the end of Pumping Iron how Lou's mother was going to cook pasta for him and he would get up to 280 pounds..haha. I believe the most he ever weighed was 260 pounds and when you consider that he had a 57" or 58" chest and 22" arms with low bodyfat and 0 gut, that's damn impressive.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Danimal77 on May 04, 2016, 09:40:01 PM
His weight is only relative to his height. I know they have him listed as 6'2" but many say he was only 6'0" on a good day.  

Our friend Vince Basille supposedly measured him at 6'1.5" barefoot at night back in January 1969 as a challenge. Arnold claimed to be 6'1 3/4" or 6'2" and Vince said he was shorter (Vince was only 5'9.5" himself), so Arnold took off his shoes and allowed himself to be measured. Remember, we are all shorter at night than we are in the morning (some by 1"). Arnold today is barely 5'10" poor guy. MAJOR spinal compression. Anyway, here's Vince's article on having measured Arnold in his prime:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vabif9&s=1#.VyrOWE_w49Q (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vabif9&s=1#.VyrOWE_w49Q)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on May 05, 2016, 06:26:20 AM
Too bad there ain't much (if any decent) footage from the 74 O (when Arnold was at his best) or the 72 O when he won, but should have been demolished by Sergio.......

Pics I've seen side by side at that contest Arnold wins easily.

A lot of people say Arnold lost in 1980 but off the video he wins by a mile no-one is near him.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: theredeemer on May 05, 2016, 07:08:49 AM
Nordic genes are simply superior.  Body and brain.  Hitler was right.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: hench on May 05, 2016, 07:31:05 AM
Yea the pics and videos don't lie, arnold is compared to his best too much and not the others.
 
Pics I've seen side by side at that contest Arnold wins easily.

A lot of people say Arnold lost in 1980 but off the video he wins by a mile no-one is near him.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: AbrahamG on May 06, 2016, 08:14:15 PM
Imagine how many blowjobs he must have received in the 70's.  Damn.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 09, 2016, 01:29:17 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 20, 2016, 07:10:20 AM
36 years ago today ...

With Dennis T. June 1980 at Flippers Roller Disco in Los Angeles, California....No one knew Arnold had another sandow just months away...




WoooSHHHHHHHHH  Lean


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 20, 2016, 07:19:00 AM
 ;D



WooShhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 20, 2016, 07:31:56 AM
L E A N


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Griffith on June 20, 2016, 08:28:31 AM
I think he looked his best in 1980.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Eric2 on June 20, 2016, 03:31:37 PM
36 years ago today ...

With Dennis T. June 1980 at Flippers Roller Disco in Los Angeles, California....No one knew Arnold had another sandow just months away...




WoooSHHHHHHHHH  Lean


Looks like Mildred baena next to arnie


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Svengoolie on June 20, 2016, 03:39:24 PM
Getting samir ready for his schmoe apportionment in that pic up there


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 20, 2016, 05:00:28 PM
I think he looked his best in 1980.


Wooshhhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Viking11 on June 20, 2016, 06:36:27 PM
hey viking  could  you share with us more of your convos with mike, i read also he went super low in calories
Sorry, missed this, busy with writing papers etc. He told me he did go super low in calories- 800 in the last weeks before a contest, but he dieted strictly like that for 6 weeks, otherwise he generally tried to stay fairly defined, but ate more to maintain it and grow. Didn't believe in force feeding nutrients. I will write more if there is still an interest.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 03, 2016, 12:10:30 PM
Today is a perfect day to achieve this tan ....



Have a great pre 4th !


wooSSHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 08, 2016, 12:01:10 PM
This day was the end of Mentzer bodybuilding career .


Wooshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 21, 2016, 07:23:19 AM
Arnold - "This is how you do it ".

Barracuda mode forever !



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 21, 2016, 07:25:45 AM
Note for the younger Getbigger:

Arnold retired twice....both exiting thru the big door ....a winner.




WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on September 21, 2016, 07:35:20 AM
Arnold came back and didn't look atrophied, he might have been down in size but the quality was still there,  his lines, mass, development and proportions still dominated.  Even now he doesn't look atrophied, just scaled down, still has the big arms, chest and calves 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 21, 2016, 08:03:51 AM
This day was the end of Mentzer bodybuilding career .


Wooshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Also the end of Menter's sanity.  lol.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: TheShape. on September 21, 2016, 09:25:17 AM
Arnold came back and didn't look atrophied, he might have been down in size but the quality was still there,  his lines, mass, development and proportions still dominated.  Even now he doesn't look atrophied, just scaled down, still has the big arms, chest and calves 
The only body part that somewhat regressed that year was his quads. I think it had to do with the short time he trained rather than actual muscle deterioration. In the end he was still the best up there that day.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 21, 2016, 10:38:14 AM
Arnold came back and didn't look atrophied, he might have been down in size but the quality was still there,  his lines, mass, development and proportions still dominated.  Even now he doesn't look atrophied, just scaled down, still has the big arms, chest and calves 
Arnold wasn't HIS best in 1980 (he was in 74), but he still was THE best in 1980.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on September 21, 2016, 11:27:50 AM
Lol, and there's still people that say he looked like shit and it was a blatant robbery... Arnold looked great, not at his best and most massive but still far above the competition, he was the winner fair and square, for sure not the 5'7 blocky Mentzer with a distended midsection...

Mike Mentzer was 5'8". His brother Ray was an inch taller at 5'9".


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on September 21, 2016, 11:28:39 AM
And what did he weigh during Hercules in New York?

250. He's said this more than once.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 21, 2016, 11:46:34 AM
36 years ago today ...

With Dennis T. June 1980 at Flippers Roller Disco in Los Angeles, California....No one knew Arnold had another sandow just months away...




WoooSHHHHHHHHH  Lean
Was this before Dennis became a new-born-christian ?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on September 21, 2016, 11:48:41 AM
I just don't think he had the time to add the size but didn't look atrophied as in old or damaged.
The only body part that somewhat regressed that year was his quads. I think it had to do with the short time he trained rather than actual muscle deterioration. In the end he was still the best up there that day.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on September 21, 2016, 01:11:29 PM
228 lbs at 6'1"  never seemed so big .  at the height, the average bodybuilder would need to be at least 245 lbs to match his size .

And Kevin Levrone claimed to be 243 pounds at 5'9" at this years Mr. O with NO legs...haha


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on September 21, 2016, 01:12:34 PM
x2 and if Arnold continued to improve, say come in at 255-60 in the same condition, which I think he could have done, he would have beaten Haney as well. He literally could have held the title for 15 years or more if it mattered to him. He was only 34 in 1980 and could have gone on well into his early forties like Zane, Dickerson and Dex did.

He was 33 in 1980 (born in 1947).


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 - What drugs was he on to be this lean ?
Post by: Danimal77 on September 21, 2016, 01:14:58 PM
His biggest and best was in 1971

sadly, the videos and photos from 1971 are rare and bad quality

Arnold won it unopposed; therefore J Weider didn't feel like printing pictures of the show under such circumstances.



WOOOSSHHHHHHH

 



WoooSHHHHHHHHH

Yup, he reportedly weighed 265 pounds (his heaviest ever) in preparation for the 1971 Mr. Olympia.


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 21, 2016, 01:45:32 PM
Exactly! he retired  in 1975 the top names back then were Oliva,Ferrigno,Katz ,Waller etc all over 240 lbs...the following years  Arnold got off the sauce, his skin was really lose for a 30 year old guy 76,77,78, specially 1979,And don't forget,by 1980 the game had changed drastically, Zane,Robinso,Dickerson,Makawi,Mentzer etc were the ones dominating  "were ripped" and under 220 lbs... So by spring 1980 not only Arnold got lean but his skin was thinner than ever!!! with striations never before seen in his prime even the split chest...... I really doubt it was the same "Formula" he applied 10 years early the early 70's.





That is what a BB should look like. 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Hack Benchers on September 21, 2016, 02:00:18 PM
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHH
It keeps amazing me how many cool pics there are of Arnold.
Always when I think I have seen them all a new bunch of pics show up.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on September 21, 2016, 02:15:14 PM
It keeps amazing me how many cool pics there are of Arnold.
Always when I think I have seen them all a new bunch of pics show up.
YEAH THATS WHAT I THOUGHT,,,


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on September 21, 2016, 03:24:05 PM
I think 80 showcased how great Arnolds traps and shoulder width were, his conditioning was probably the best it's been but in 73/74 he had more mass and was balanced everywhere.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: TheShape. on September 21, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
I just don't think he had the time to add the size but didn't look atrophied as in old or damaged.
Correct.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 11, 2017, 07:40:03 AM
In search for the "1980 Arnold granite look/shape "




WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 12, 2017, 03:33:52 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 12, 2017, 03:37:07 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 12, 2017, 03:46:54 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 13, 2017, 04:39:14 AM
:)

This was early 70s.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Griffith on January 14, 2017, 12:14:38 AM
I still think 1980 was his best.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 14, 2017, 04:41:11 PM
1975 was his most ripped condition.  His biggest was 74 I believe.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 14, 2017, 04:58:10 PM
1974 easily his most developed and balanced, 73 probably not far off but very few pics of that show.


1975 was his most ripped condition.  His biggest was 74 I believe.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Griffith on January 16, 2017, 08:09:11 AM
1974 easily his most developed and balanced, 73 probably not far off but very few pics of that show.



1980 was arguably his best conditioning though.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on January 16, 2017, 08:26:06 AM
1980 was arguably his best conditioning though.
^^
True on that, how many here can aspire to this conditioning- except WES :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 16, 2017, 08:38:20 AM
But was it? The pics and footage of 74 is poor, there are some good pics of him receiving the trophy in 73, his separation and conditioning looks great, specially in the quads.

1980 was arguably his best conditioning though.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: _aj_ on January 16, 2017, 09:04:02 AM
The casual flex on that bicep is amazing  :o

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520732)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 16, 2017, 10:10:23 AM
these dudes from the golden era all have flawless skin - no nasty bacne or anything?? how the hell did they pull that off


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: drum on January 16, 2017, 10:20:01 AM
these dudes from the golden era all have flawless skin - no nasty bacne or anything?? how the hell did they pull that off

Low test, lots of winny, real food no bullshit food, lots of tanning


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on January 16, 2017, 11:11:26 AM
Low test, lots of winny, real food no bullshit food, lots of tanning
real drugs,real training,real sun


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: pellius on January 16, 2017, 01:59:22 PM
Low test, lots of winny, real food no bullshit food, lots of tanning

LOL @ "Lots of winny"


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 16, 2017, 03:00:05 PM
He was dry like never before .


WooSHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 16, 2017, 03:01:15 PM
WooSHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 16, 2017, 03:31:09 PM
I think some of his 80s gym shots are outstanding
WooSHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: nukkaready on January 16, 2017, 04:13:50 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: nukkaready on January 16, 2017, 04:15:56 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Natural_O on January 16, 2017, 11:55:02 PM
This was the best one from '80


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 17, 2017, 05:38:43 AM
He looks ridiculous there
This was the best one from '80


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 17, 2017, 08:17:47 AM
He looks ridiculous there

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=668002;image)


WooSHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 17, 2017, 11:42:27 AM
Pisses all over anyone today
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=668002;image)


WooSHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 17, 2017, 07:42:47 PM
 ;D coming back in 1980 he was  the lean,dry champ"


WooSHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Natural_O on January 18, 2017, 04:53:39 PM
Here's what Roger Walker from Australia had to say about the 1980 Mr. Olympia. Fast forward to the 50:30 min mark -
http://www.floridaphysique.com/bodybuilding-legends---roger-walker


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 18, 2017, 08:01:47 PM
Here's what Roger Walker from Australia had to say about the 1980 Mr. Olympia. Fast forward to the 50:30 min mark -
http://www.floridaphysique.com/bodybuilding-legends---roger-walker

Thanks


WooSHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2017, 09:48:45 PM
After all the political shit posts, including mine. This tread is a breath of fresh air, although it is mostly ancient history.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 19, 2017, 07:22:47 AM
Here's what Roger Walker from Australia had to say about the 1980 Mr. Olympia. Fast forward to the 50:30 min mark -
http://www.floridaphysique.com/bodybuilding-legends---roger-walker

Great interview !

Things to notice -

1- Paul Graham was/is a criminal ? Did Ben and Joe knew at the time ?

2- When Roger says that Arnold and Paul were "more than friends " ....what did he mean by that ??

partners in Illicit business??



WooSHHHHHHHHH



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 19, 2017, 07:50:50 AM
I think arnold got mixed up on some of graham's dodgy dealings,  graham did prison time and kept arnolds name out of it if I remember rightly. 
Great interview !

Things to notice -

1- Paul Graham was/is a criminal ? Did Ben and Joe knew at the time ?

2- When Roger says that Arnold and Paul were "more than friends " ....what did he mean by that ??

partners in Illicit business??



WooSHHHHHHHHH




Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 19, 2017, 08:24:47 AM
Roger says 1980 Mr.O was a "show" not a contest......... that Arnold was awarded" but did not win the Mr.O


doesn't even think Arnold should have placed top 8 at the 1980 Mr.O !!!

Arnold's 1980 Sandow is like a precious stolen watch and he should give it back "

Is it true the CBS footage was thrown in the trash ??


Only Bannout  and Platz said (at the time) Arnold was the legit winner ....however I think John interviewed him about it and he now thinks Arnold was"gifted" that sandow .....



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 19, 2017, 08:36:19 AM
Roger says he knew months prior the contest that Arnold was going to make a comeback and was up to something with promoter Paul '


WooOSHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Natural_O on January 19, 2017, 08:38:52 AM
Samir didn't think Arnold should have won either. Go to the 53:00 mark in this interview -
http://www.floridaphysique.com/bodybuilding-legends---samir-bannout-par


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 19, 2017, 08:39:46 AM
Don't matter what they say, all the footage and pictures have arnold the clear winner even below his par which is what they all compared him to.l

Roger says 1980 Mr.O was a "show" not a contest......... that Arnold was awarded" but did not win the Mr.O


doesn't even think Arnold should have placed top 8 at the 1980 Mr.O !!!

Arnold's 1980 Sandow is like a precious stolen watch and he should give it back "

Is it true the CBS footage was thrown in the trash ??


Only Bannout  and Platz said (at the time) Arnold was the legit winner ....however I think John interviewed him about it and he now thinks Arnold was"gifted" that sandow .....



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 19, 2017, 08:43:35 AM
Not worthy of a top six finisher ?  really?

Damn I need the remaster never before seen footage  pronto !



WoooSHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on January 19, 2017, 08:46:50 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 19, 2017, 08:47:02 AM
Samir didn't think Arnold should have won either. Go to the 53:00 mark in this interview -
http://www.floridaphysique.com/bodybuilding-legends---samir-bannout-par

Thanks,  back in the day Both him and Platz said Arnold was the clear winner (maybe were intimidated? ) because they were new comers at the time  ....who knows ?


Franco also says Arnold won hands down  ;D.....but I think Franco's Opinion regarding mr.O 80 & 81 is extremely questionable .



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on January 19, 2017, 08:55:55 AM
;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Natural_O on January 19, 2017, 08:58:24 AM
Photographer Wayne Gallasch from Australia says that the contest was between Arnold and Chris Dickerson -
http://www.floridaphysique.com/bodybuilding-legends---wayne-gallasch


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Eric2 on January 19, 2017, 10:03:56 AM
Much as I dislike Arnold he won that show. Every shot I've seen he looks better than the others. Would he still have one it if he did not, probably most likely was a set up. Arnold is a bastard.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on January 19, 2017, 01:44:21 PM
Roger says 1980 Mr.O was a "show" not a contest......... that Arnold was awarded" but did not win the Mr.O


doesn't even think Arnold should have placed top 8 at the 1980 Mr.O !!!

Arnold's 1980 Sandow is like a precious stolen watch and he should give it back "

Is it true the CBS footage was thrown in the trash ??


Only Bannout  and Platz said (at the time) Arnold was the legit winner ....however I think John interviewed him about it and he now thinks Arnold was"gifted" that sandow .....



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



As much as i think roger's physique was very good,
Saying Arnold was not worthy of the top 8 is very much sour grapes
Does he really believe he was a better physique than Arnold on that day.

Oh well he is entitled to his opinion.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 19, 2017, 02:12:12 PM
This is it, none of these guys want to admit they couldnt look as good as an underprepared and retired bodybuilder.


As much as i think roger's physique was very good,
Saying Arnold was not worthy of the top 8 is very much sour grapes
Does he really believe he was a better physique than Arnold on that day.

Oh well he is entitled to his opinion.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 19, 2017, 08:04:04 PM
This is it, none of these guys want to admit they couldnt look as good as an underprepared and retired bodybuilder.

Roger says that Arnold disrespected all of them by continuously saying in public that he did in several weeks what took others a full year .


WooSHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 19, 2017, 08:05:32 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 19, 2017, 08:14:03 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: AbrahamG on January 19, 2017, 09:31:35 PM
Not even at his best and the Oak delivered a face-fucking for the ages.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 20, 2017, 02:11:24 AM
I can see why that'd upset them, but then the truth hurts.
So much detail in these 80 shots, he looks very refined.

Roger says that Arnold disrespected all of them by continuously saying in public that he did in several weeks what took others a full year .


WooSHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2017, 06:02:28 AM
I can see why that'd upset them, but then the truth hurts.
So much detail in these 80 shots, he looks very refined.

take zane smoother /bigger 69/early 7o's ,like Arnold ,mid 70's he started to get the look more refined then 77/82 was shredded 'zane look'
Arnold's build then captured what was needed at that time with his signature bodyparts split/diced like never before..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 20, 2017, 08:10:47 AM
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on January 20, 2017, 08:46:50 AM
^^^^^^ in that pic standing in the back row
Dennis T's  Arms & abs Looking great.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 20, 2017, 09:31:36 AM
^^^^^^ in that pic standing in the back row
Dennis T's  Arms & abs Looking great.

Looking like Ferrigno 92'


WooSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Natural_O on January 20, 2017, 09:59:03 AM
^^^^^^ in that pic standing in the back row
Dennis T's  Arms & abs Looking great.

Dennis always looked great from the front but his back was a big weak point.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 20, 2017, 10:00:42 AM
And when he lifted up his arms it showed his weaknesses.
Dennis always looked great from the front but his back was a big weak point.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2017, 10:04:21 AM
And when he lifted up his arms it showed his weaknesses.
long limbed ...but great old school build..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on January 20, 2017, 01:06:23 PM
yea, and looked great just standing there
long limbed ...but great old school build..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 25, 2017, 05:34:36 PM
WooSHHHHHHH  LE VRO NEEEEEEE


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 06, 2017, 08:17:38 AM
TEAM LEAN !!!!



WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 06, 2017, 12:33:05 PM
 ;D

WooSHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Hack Benchers on February 06, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
The casual flex on that bicep is amazing  :o

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=520732)
Lol great stuff, I love this set of pics of Arnold promoting these sups.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on February 06, 2017, 06:15:26 PM
Thanks,  back in the day Both him and Platz said Arnold was the clear winner (maybe were intimidated? ) because they were new comers at the time  ....who knows ?


Franco also says Arnold won hands down  ;D.....but I think Franco's Opinion regarding mr.O 80 & 81 is extremely questionable .



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I remember reading an interview with Roy Callendar years ago and he said that Arnold deserved to win the 1980 Olympia but next year was a travesty.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 07, 2017, 07:18:49 AM
WOSH LEVRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 07, 2017, 08:14:08 AM
'the 1980 Mr.Olympia and the way I looked this year,  will be the most talked bodybuilding event in human kind ....mark my words"





WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH   SYDNEY


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 08, 2017, 08:44:53 AM
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 23, 2017, 08:49:59 AM
 rare one

WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on February 23, 2017, 11:48:00 AM
Roger says that Arnold disrespected all of them by continuously saying in public that he did in several weeks what took others a full year .


WooSHHHHHHHHH

pet shop what was arnolds diet for this contest u need to post it


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Jamaal on February 23, 2017, 12:17:14 PM
TEAM LEAN !!!!



WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHH

Easy to maintain surfer physique

- today's gym junkies


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on February 27, 2017, 12:08:13 AM
pet shop what was arnolds diet for this contest u need to post it
^^
Ric Drasin was saying he went ultra-low carbs, when he saw him in the gym for instance he would only eat a handful of green grapes
in the last month as his ONLY source of carbs!!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 27, 2017, 08:23:15 AM
More rare 1980 pics  with Jusup.




WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 27, 2017, 08:24:43 AM
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 27, 2017, 08:28:32 AM
1980 .... Amazing lineup .



WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH




Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 27, 2017, 08:36:47 AM
If this 1980 pic ever makes it as a pull out poster in FLEX mag,  subscribers will never know it .




WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Jamaal on February 27, 2017, 12:46:30 PM
Great throwback photos!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 28, 2017, 06:45:07 PM
I think Mike has him here  :o


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on February 28, 2017, 07:10:05 PM
I think Mike has him here  :o

mikes conditioning was better i dont get how some of these morons on here say mike had a wide waist


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Eric2 on February 28, 2017, 07:10:48 PM
I think Mike has him here  :o

Yes he does. Mike's calves are not only bigger but defined. His chest and shoulders are more defined as well. Arnold is smooth and flat in this particular shot.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on February 28, 2017, 07:20:56 PM
Mike had a thick midsection front to back/side on and a shallow chest, especially in comparison to arnold. In many shots his belly sticks out further than his chest
mikes conditioning was better i dont get how some of these morons on here say mike had a wide waist


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Eric2 on February 28, 2017, 07:23:25 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Yv6EmBE71sA/TBSu6RCn8FI/AAAAAAAAC1w/79hNJX8G6bA/s1600/Mike+Mentzer+4.jpg)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 28, 2017, 08:58:36 PM
The real view .



WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 28, 2017, 08:59:57 PM
 ;D



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH   LE VRO~NEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on February 28, 2017, 10:55:35 PM
Dickerson looks great here.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 01, 2017, 03:48:35 AM
Arnold stood I the background there and still bigger than Mike with better waist to shoulder ratio
;D



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH   LE VRO~NEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Jamaal on March 01, 2017, 11:01:12 AM
I think Mike has him here  :o

How does an 18" arm look as big as a 22" arm there?  :o


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on March 01, 2017, 11:44:54 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Jamaal on March 01, 2017, 11:47:45 AM
Strange to see these photos and then realize that Mentzer got caught up in amphetimine use afterward and wouldn't be the same again.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: JAGO on March 01, 2017, 12:58:14 PM
Dickerson looks great here.

Looks like Frank has that shot.

J


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Eric2 on March 01, 2017, 01:21:01 PM
Dickerson looks great here.

Arnold's back is flat and nowhere as impressive as Dickerson and Zane.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on March 01, 2017, 01:23:08 PM
Dickerson looks great here.

Yeah for sure. Also, I'm shocked at how small Arnie's arms look from behind there..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Jamaal on March 01, 2017, 01:23:47 PM
Arnold's back is flat and nowhere as impressive as Dickerson and Zane.

"Politics"


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 01, 2017, 02:27:51 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 01, 2017, 02:52:43 PM
Arnold's bdb was awesome,  even in 1980.
;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 01, 2017, 11:51:36 PM
fdb & bdb


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 01, 2017, 11:53:08 PM
Arnold vs Dickerson


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: tommywishbone on March 02, 2017, 10:18:09 AM
Yeah for sure. Also, I'm shocked at how small Arnie's arms look from behind there..

Agreed. Dickerson's 17 inch arms look bigger.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on March 02, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on March 02, 2017, 11:01:13 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 02, 2017, 12:13:51 PM
Look how wide and sweeping arnolds lats actually are here, even not at his best. He just needed to place his hands more infront of him so his arms didn't detract from the pose
8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 03, 2017, 07:36:37 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Jamaal on March 04, 2017, 09:20:49 AM
That picture above shows again that Mentzer might be a better poser than Arnold... He's substantially smaller by dimension and still appears large


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: karasan on March 05, 2017, 04:19:29 AM
That picture above shows again that Mentzer might be a better poser than Arnold... He's substantially smaller by dimension and still appears large
I don't know why more people don't mention this, but Mike Mentzer seemed like the one of the greatest posers this "sport" has ever seen.
Ofcourse not able to tense his abs during "79 Olympia cost him heavily but still, coupled with his amazing physqiue he's among few master posers in my book.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on March 05, 2017, 06:10:21 PM
I know it's been said before, but watch the video and Arnold wins easily.

He was in his best shape, a little smaller but so what you don't drop 10 pounds to be leaner and stay the same size. His structure beats everyone there easily only Zane was close.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 05, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
I know it's been said before, but watch the video and Arnold wins easily.

He was in his best shape, a little smaller but so what you don't drop 10 pounds to be leaner and stay the same size. His structure beats everyone there easily only Zane was close.


WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 05, 2017, 09:05:07 PM
Classic lines at its best...

"He was down to a point "



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 06, 2017, 06:52:45 AM
I don't know why more people don't mention this, but Mike Mentzer seemed like the one of the greatest posers this "sport" has ever seen.
Ofcourse not able to tense his abs during "79 Olympia cost him heavily but still, coupled with his amazing physqiue he's among few master posers in my book.

not to mention one of the most talented writers the sport ever had, you could read a article by mentzer and tell he actually put some thought into it. guy was a great writer for sure.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 06, 2017, 08:47:45 AM
not to mention one of the most talented writers the sport ever had, you could read a article by mentzer and tell he actually put some thought into it. guy was a great writer for sure.

Ronnie Coleman had a column in Flex Mag very eloquent btw .



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 10, 2017, 11:46:25 AM
..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Griffith on March 10, 2017, 01:51:11 PM
Arnold was still good enough to take it, his conditioning alone was exceptional and he still had most of his size.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 19, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
Arnold was still good enough to take it, his conditioning alone was exceptional and he still had most of his size.



This shot has been posted numerous times ...but here's a better quality .



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 19, 2017, 12:00:48 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 19, 2017, 12:11:09 PM
Ronnie Coleman had a column in Flex Mag very eloquent btw .



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH


bwa ha ha pet shop good one, yeah ronnies articles were so helpfull   " i lift that heavy ass weight, yip yip light weight, chad has me take these pills and stuff and they dry me out. i am on so many drugs pain meds etc i dont even feel pain when i train "


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 19, 2017, 03:08:22 PM

bwa ha ha pet shop good one, yeah ronnies articles were so helpfull   " i lift that heavy ass weight, yip yip light weight, chad has me take these pills and stuff and they dry me out. i am on so many drugs pain meds etc i dont even feel pain when i train "


Nuthing' but a peanut


LOL WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 19, 2017, 05:33:30 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 19, 2017, 05:56:21 PM
WoooShhhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: TheShape. on March 19, 2017, 09:02:51 PM
^^^^
My favorite Arnie pic. Great physique!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 20, 2017, 08:10:48 AM
I-I


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 20, 2017, 07:17:26 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 21, 2017, 06:57:05 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 21, 2017, 11:03:43 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 22, 2017, 07:08:06 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 23, 2017, 05:54:35 AM
The sun gives you an extra pump ! 

Imagine if doing a Terminator movie in this kind of  shape !


WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 23, 2017, 06:12:29 AM
The 1980 lean dry champ !




WooosHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 23, 2017, 06:15:30 AM
Never seen that top one, he was in great shape, it's funny how he was considered out of shape because he brought a different package, yet he wasn't smooth, no gut, still had all showpiece body pars,  arms, calves and chest.
Still too much for the others
The 1980 lean dry champ !




WooosHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 23, 2017, 06:44:19 AM
Never seen that top one, he was in great shape, it's funny how he was considered out of shape because he brought a different package, yet he wasn't smooth, no gut, still had all showpiece body pars,  arms, calves and chest.
Still too much for the others

YES


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 23, 2017, 06:51:53 AM
This video footage is weird, like the aspect ratio is off but more so the bottom half, stretching all their legs out.

YES


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on March 23, 2017, 07:17:51 AM
Never seen that top one, he was in great shape, it's funny how he was considered out of shape because he brought a different package, yet he wasn't smooth, no gut, still had all showpiece body pars,  arms, calves and chest.
Still too much for the others
I agree,,to this day Arnold had unique chest/back shape/lats,,,bi's of course,and with his condition AND POSING HE'S UNBEATABLE...relaxed he looked ok but poses/flexed his muscle would just pop..thats what Arnold had in spades'no racist'


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 23, 2017, 07:24:28 AM
Yep, I still struggle to comprehend the size and mass he had with his frame and weigh so little "apparently" and it's not an illusion, Walker the second biggest guy is dwarfed yet didn't he supposedly weigh the same and mentor too, 225?
I agree,,to this day Arnold had unique chest/back shape/lats,,,bi's of course,and with his condition AND POSING HE'S UNBEATABLE...relaxed he looked ok but poses/flexed his muscle would just pop..thats what Arnold had in spades'no racist'


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 23, 2017, 07:27:29 AM
The 1980 lean dry champ !




WooosHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

hey petshop this is no bullshit i talked to casey viator several times through email years ago, he told me and i quot "arnolds precontest routine would kill most pros" he said arnold trained like a madman for the olympia


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 23, 2017, 07:37:42 AM
I agree,,to this day Arnold had unique chest/back shape/lats,,,bi's of course,and with his condition AND POSING HE'S UNBEATABLE...relaxed he looked ok but poses/flexed his muscle would just pop..thats what Arnold had in spades'no racist'

Game over.


WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 23, 2017, 07:39:49 AM
This video footage is weird, like the aspect ratio is off but more so the bottom half, stretching all their legs out.


One day the never before seen remastered 1980 footage ,will be released ..... not today though



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 23, 2017, 09:34:44 AM
One day the never before seen remastered 1980 footage ,will be released ..... not today though



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH


dammit pet shop when?  this shit should be on blue ray i could watch arnold train for hrs.     


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 23, 2017, 11:24:28 AM
..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on March 23, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 23, 2017, 08:55:59 PM
One day the never before seen remastered 1980 footage ,will be released ..... not today though



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH
^^
Watch the whole vid:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1g4RBE0DuM


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on March 24, 2017, 12:49:41 AM
^^
Watch the whole vid:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1g4RBE0DuM



I have the original comeback video.
Only now don't have a video player. !! 😢

Arnold flouting the rules - Tricep pose.  Ha.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 24, 2017, 02:06:09 AM
Dunno why he did that, in the comeback footage he walks on and we see the competitors side on, arnold is so much thicker front to back than anyone else and he flexes his triceps.
Found a pic, there is a slightly better shot a second or so later but this is what I mean.


(http://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/fbbuploads/med_1184253767-1980t.jpg)


I have the original comeback video.
Only now don't have a video player. !! 😢

Arnold flouting the rules - Tricep pose.  Ha.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hipolito mejia on March 24, 2017, 03:32:32 AM
For some unexplained reason Arnold tries to avoid the 1980 Mr.O topic , in his total reacall book he only dedicates one page to it , despite its the most controversial contest in bodybuilding history. 

If there is still an unseen footage, Arnold is the only person who don't want it out, seems he's not interested in making a single penny by releasing it.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 24, 2017, 05:31:33 AM
I did read somewhere a while back he did feel bad about stuff at the 80 O and I'm sure he said "it wasnt my wisest decision"


For some unexplained reason Arnold tries to avoid the 1980 Mr.O topic , in his total reacall book he only dedicates one page to it , despite its the most controversial contest in bodybuilding history. 

If there is still an unseen footage, Arnold is the only person who don't want it out, seems he's not interested in making a single penny by releasing it.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 24, 2017, 07:44:31 PM
I did read somewhere a while back he did feel bad about stuff at the 80 O and I'm sure he said "it wasnt my wisest decision"



Yes, I remember that too....but that is because 95% of guys who competed against him that year , say Arnold wasn't even top 3 ....

Arnold now says it wasn't a smart move, because he stole Zane's thunder and the opportunity to other guys to win it , which it plain BS.



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 24, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
^^
Watch the whole vid:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1g4RBE0DuM


Thanks .

Only Platz,Franco and Sammir  thought Arnold was the clear winner there .....years later only Franco still think so .




WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 25, 2017, 11:45:34 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on March 25, 2017, 03:02:10 PM

Thanks .

Only Platz,Franco and Sammir  thought Arnold was the clear winner there .....years later only Franco still think so .




WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH
And Roy Callendar.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 25, 2017, 04:33:31 PM
Pictures and video don't lie.  Arnold was too much for these inferior specimens, I can see why they'd be pissed having to train for longer and prep more and still not better him


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on March 25, 2017, 04:42:37 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on March 25, 2017, 04:43:57 PM
Pictures and video don't lie.  Arnold was too much for these inferior specimens, I can see why they'd be pissed having to train for longer and prep more and still not better him
This picture says  it all.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 25, 2017, 04:54:54 PM
YES

pet shop are you mad at me cause i love mike mentzer to ?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2017, 05:45:50 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 26, 2017, 08:15:26 PM
pet shop are you mad at me cause i love mike mentzer to ?


We all like Mentzer one way or another ....he was a living proof  a bodybuilder could be intellectual and eloquent ,  not Arnold .




WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  LEVRO NEEEEEEEEEEE


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on March 26, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
Arnold 1st and either Mentzer or Zane 2nd/3rd.   Dickerson the porn dog should not even have been on stage except at Jimmy Zs. 

Mentzer was great and had much to contribute but failed to come back with a vengeance.  Instead he decided to hide away like so many little guys.  He should, you know...show them. Show them the whole thing.

Arnold was still too much for any one that day, but if Mentzer had taken the Oak's attitude when he lost to Zane in the 60s, he would have walked all over every one (especially Franco) in '81.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Eric2 on March 26, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
Arnold 1st and either Mentzer or Zane 2nd/3rd.   Dickerson the porn dog should not even have been on stage except at Jimmy Zs.  

Mentzer was great and had much to contribute but failed to come back with a vengeance.  Instead he decided to hide away like so many little guys.  He should, you know...show them. Show them the whole thing.

Arnold was still too much for any one that day, but if Mentzer had taken the Oak's attitude when he lost to Zane in the 60s, he would have walked all over every one (especially Franco) in '81.

Agreed. Mike could have been so much more,as a competitor. Problem also lied with the Weiders, Mike was not their chosen one. I think all things happen for a reason, Mike became obsessed over this unfortunately. Yet he created a whole new sector of people looking to train in a different manner. He created a movement against the Weider doctrine.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Natural_O on March 27, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Arnold 1st and either Mentzer or Zane 2nd/3rd.   Dickerson the porn dog should not even have been on stage except at Jimmy Zs. 

Mentzer was great and had much to contribute but failed to come back with a vengeance.  Instead he decided to hide away like so many little guys.  He should, you know...show them. Show them the whole thing.

Arnold was still too much for any one that day, but if Mentzer had taken the Oak's attitude when he lost to Zane in the 60s, he would have walked all over every one (especially Franco) in '81.

No one was going to beat Franco in '81, no one.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 27, 2017, 10:13:02 AM
Arnold 1st and either Mentzer or Zane 2nd/3rd.   Dickerson the porn dog should not even have been on stage except at Jimmy Zs. 

Mentzer was great and had much to contribute but failed to come back with a vengeance.  Instead he decided to hide away like so many little guys.  He should, you know...show them. Show them the whole thing.

Arnold was still too much for any one that day, but if Mentzer had taken the Oak's attitude when he lost to Zane in the 60s, he would have walked all over every one (especially Franco) in '81.

Any truth to what I heard about Mike Mentzer? I heard he was an addicted drug addict who became mentally ill from it.

Mentzer was a great bodybuilder by he was beaten bad by Kalman in the Universe. He looked smaller and less ripped in comparison. All anyone can say negative about Kalman is that his calves weren't as good as Mentzer. I would counter that everything else was better from back, chest, delts and arms. 

Mentzer also lost the Universe to Robby.  Again Robby looked in ripped condition and Mentzer didn't.  Some again will say Mentzer had calves and Robby didn't.

I liked Mentzer back in the day. He has been a huge influence on my training.  I used to buy anything he wrote in the magazines. I would rip the article out and put it in a binder. I wonder if anyone has the amount of Mentzer articles that I have? It's just that many HIT guys won't accept that he wasn't always the best in contests and volume guys beat him. 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on March 27, 2017, 09:30:50 PM
No one was going to beat Franco in '81, no one.
Even Arnold?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 28, 2017, 07:50:23 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Dokey111 on March 28, 2017, 08:30:23 AM
^ no delts on Arnold  ???


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on March 28, 2017, 09:31:35 AM
Arnold's delts and shoulder region were great this year, thats just one pic. His delts could easily contain walkers and mentzers.
(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/indexCATPXKKY.jpg)

   
^ no delts on Arnold  ???


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 28, 2017, 10:41:34 AM
 ;D wosh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 28, 2017, 10:55:52 AM
..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 28, 2017, 11:11:17 AM
mentzer stated in one of his books that him and joe got along great, remember joe was paying him 150k a year in the early 80's that was huge money, he stated ben weider was the one who hated him.


mentzer to me was the best thinking bodybuilder out there, you could read one of his articles and it got you thinking. he was very smart, and yet he did let himself go .

he got hooked on amphetamines.   but as a writer/bodybuilder, he was great.  him and arnold will always be my top 2 favorites.   


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 28, 2017, 11:13:39 AM
Arnold vs Mike  ;)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 28, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
awesome pic of mike


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: nukkaready on March 29, 2017, 01:04:59 PM
.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on March 29, 2017, 05:24:50 PM
Bottom line Mentzer overdieted to the point that he lost a lot of his trademark thickness. His chest was flat as a pancake.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on March 29, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on March 29, 2017, 08:27:50 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 29, 2017, 09:12:24 PM
Bottom line Mentzer overdieted to the point that he lost a lot of his trademark thickness. His chest was flat as a pancake.
^^
That was Joe Weider's fault, he said he needed more shredded serratus and obliques...
This was the ONE thing he told me about when I got to meet him back when he was personal training in early 1990's.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on March 29, 2017, 10:37:41 PM
At least still talk even now about the contest. If Arnold would not have been there, now the discussions were about "how to beat Dickerson on Mentzer"? ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hipolito mejia on April 04, 2017, 04:22:31 PM
At least still talk even now about the contest. If Arnold would not have been there, now the discussions were about "how to beat Dickerson on Mentzer"? ;D

Dickerson won in 82'. And no one even mentions it. Let alone make a thread about it.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 07, 2017, 05:02:33 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: jollygiant on April 08, 2017, 03:48:09 AM
Bottom line Mentzer overdieted to the point that he lost a lot of his trademark thickness. His chest was flat as a pancake.
Rubbish. nothing to do with diet.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ratherbebig on April 08, 2017, 04:11:51 AM
mentzer looks narrow


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on April 09, 2017, 11:06:51 AM
Rubbish. nothing to do with diet.
^^
Whatever is your "weakest" bodypart you will loose that if dieting hard/drying out right before a show...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on April 09, 2017, 11:08:33 AM
^^
Whatever is your "weakest" bodypart you will loose that if dieting hard/drying out right before a show...

Dammit!  My whole body wimps up when I diet down! ;) ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 09, 2017, 03:24:03 PM
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 10, 2017, 06:48:53 PM
 :)


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on April 11, 2017, 03:54:51 AM
Duchaine was one ugly mofo.

He also didn't know much about training. Other than screwing around with drugs, I have no idea what the heck he offered.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: theworm on April 11, 2017, 05:01:08 AM
:)

BBers had hair back then.   Maybe cause there was no tren and they weren't on grams of test year round for decades...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on April 11, 2017, 05:05:40 AM
BBers had hair back then.   Maybe cause there was no tren and they weren't on grams of test year round for decades...
yeah imagine that..


Title: Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 11, 2017, 06:29:15 AM
He also didn't know much about training. Other than screwing around with drugs, I have no idea what the heck he offered.

QFT.. Today, most bodybuilders post the before and after pics on social media showing progress and the result always is a bald guy




WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH   TA NA KA


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: nukkaready on April 11, 2017, 06:33:27 AM
Not a very clear shot but you can see how much bigger Arnold's frame is.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 11, 2017, 06:43:26 AM
Look at that waist how dry it was .




WoooSHHHHHH    TA NA KA


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 11, 2017, 07:11:44 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: nukkaready on April 11, 2017, 08:13:10 AM
How anyone can say Mentzer should have won is beyond comprehension. His front 'relaxed' pose is bad, really bad. It lacks an entire chest. In this line-up he looks dead last from the front.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 11, 2017, 05:30:32 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 11, 2017, 06:08:42 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 11, 2017, 07:08:52 PM
 ::)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 11, 2017, 07:19:33 PM
Even 185lb Zane has a thicker chest , never mind Arnold


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: nukkaready on April 12, 2017, 06:29:47 AM
Arnold dominating the line up from the front.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on April 12, 2017, 07:20:23 AM
Big dude, all the way big dude
Arnold dominating the line up from the front.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on April 12, 2017, 09:43:24 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2017, 09:45:19 AM
8)
TAKE HIS LEGS OUT ,ITS CLEARLY STILL THE BEST UPPERBODY THAT DAY...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on April 12, 2017, 10:55:40 AM
Roger Walker looks pretty damn good in some of those shots too...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NelsonMuntz on April 12, 2017, 11:54:44 AM
Any truth to what I heard about Mike Mentzer? I heard he was an addicted drug addict who became mentally ill from it.

Mentzer was a great bodybuilder by he was beaten bad by Kalman in the Universe. He looked smaller and less ripped in comparison. All anyone can say negative about Kalman is that his calves weren't as good as Mentzer. I would counter that everything else was better from back, chest, delts and arms. 

Mentzer also lost the Universe to Robby.  Again Robby looked in ripped condition and Mentzer didn't.  Some again will say Mentzer had calves and Robby didn't.

I liked Mentzer back in the day. He has been a huge influence on my training.  I used to buy anything he wrote in the magazines. I would rip the article out and put it in a binder. I wonder if anyone has the amount of Mentzer articles that I have? It's just that many HIT guys won't accept that he wasn't always the best in contests and volume guys beat him. 

I think the best thing that Mike did was he put out an alternative toi the training of the day that could work for those who did not respond as well to the then high volume. The smart people were the ones who took that advice and applied it to their bodies finding where it best fit them, ie look at the way Labrada and Yates praised Mike as a mentor/influence, however their training styles were adjusted to their own personal needs in a way where there was some similarities to Mike's system, but not the exact same way over time.

My only issue with him and his training system is that he did not even seem to train the last several years of his life. With his brief training system, he would have had more validity if he practiced what he preached, then again Arnold probably is guilty of the same although he has continued to work out in some fashion since he retired save that couple year period when he was governor I believe


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on April 12, 2017, 12:15:55 PM
That's a great relaxed back shot, never seen before
8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on April 12, 2017, 02:40:12 PM
I liked mike & he had some worthwhile different ideas about training / rest & diet.

Though he never mentioned his own extensive drug taking.

Also he should of just accepted the loss in Australia -
Gone away - Trained Hard and applied his supposedly better training system & come back a year later
Bigger & Better.

Sadly he had a huge girly / liberal type meltdown of Epic Proportions.  ::)

Way to go Mike.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 12, 2017, 05:36:14 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 02:03:36 AM
I took heaps of photos at the 80 Olympia. I sold the negatives and slides to Robert Nailon. I did make a few prints. Here is an edit of one.

This was the first call out at the judging. Notice Arnold wasn't in this group so figured he didn't place. Look at his face. His expression

tells the story. I will see if I can find a photo where he was in the lineup full of confidence again.





Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on April 13, 2017, 04:51:43 AM
I took heaps of photos at the 80 Olympia. I sold the negatives and slides to Robert Nailon. I did make a few prints. Here is an edit of one.

This was the first call out at the judging. Notice Arnold wasn't in this group so figured he didn't place. Look at his face. His expression

tells the story. I will see if I can find a photo where he was in the lineup full of confidence again.





Looking at this photo and the one above how the fuck did Danny Padilla not place higher? He looks to be the most muscular in the line up in those photos.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on April 13, 2017, 05:25:52 AM
Coz he's tiny, literally disappears even next to boyer coe there
Looking at this photo and the one above how the fuck did Danny Padilla not place higher? He looks to be the most muscular in the line up in those photos.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 05:46:37 AM
Looking at this photo and the one above how the fuck did Danny Padilla not place higher? He looks to be the most muscular in the line up in those photos.

I don't recall Danny being called out to be compared. No doubt he had the best all round physique there. A pity they didn't judge short guys properly. He had

size, shape, proportions and was in good condition. He came back the following year with less body fat but the contest went to Franco. Lots of booing then.



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 08:07:03 AM
Abs 1980.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on April 13, 2017, 11:12:39 AM
Abs 1980.
^^
Good to see you posting again, Vince!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on April 13, 2017, 02:46:48 PM
Good to see your back posting Vince.

Where have you been.

No doubt we will cross swords again at some point.
 ;)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 05:09:44 PM
Good to see your back posting Vince.

Where have you been.

No doubt we will cross swords again at some point.
 ;)

Like GH15 says, no one leaves the boarding...they lurk. I had a couple of dorks harass me for a couple of years. Then so much crap has been posted about me

that it appears on a Google search. Not nice. However, wtf can I do about it now? Nothing. The price I pay to be a known person on Getbig. There are always some intelligent

people here that make the place tolerable.

No homo!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on April 13, 2017, 05:32:00 PM
Like GH15 says, no one leaves the boarding...they lurk. I had a couple of dorks harass me for a couple of years. Then so much crap has been posted about me

that it appears on a Google search. Not nice. However, wtf can I do about it now? Nothing. The price I pay to be a known person on Getbig. There are always some intelligent

people here that make the place tolerable.

No homo!






What the Fcuk - I hope the idiots harassing you have either been barred or matured enough to stop.

Have you tried contacting google and asking for said items to be removed.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 05:39:02 PM





What the Fcuk - I hope the idiots harassing you have either been barred or matured enough to stop.

Have you tried contacting google and asking for said items to be removed.


What can be done? Bugger all. Teutonic Knight was banned and we think the other dude from Nova Scotia died. Good riddance to those two.

Goodrum opened a site in my full name and when you clicked on the link it opened at NAMBLA home page. Now that was defamation. That asshole Goodrum

is a low life if there ever was one. He doesn't have assets so can't be sued.

People harvested photos from one of my sites and modified photos to embarrass me. They also posted photos of my family and girlfriends here which is

totally against the rules. Ron removed stuff if requested. Some nasty people are persistent but since they are anonymous there is little that anyone can do.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on April 13, 2017, 05:51:44 PM
Some nasty people are persistent but since they are anonymous there is little that anyone can do.[/color]

Most of the nastiest, shittiest posters are anonymous gimmicks that pop up out of the aether with a full knowledge of the site's history and intricacies. They spend all day shitting on regulars for "spending all day" on Getbig, while the beautiful justice of irony, albeit subtle, suffocates any legitimacy they may have managed by slipping under the radar early on.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 06:34:43 PM
Most of the nastiest, shittiest posters are anonymous gimmicks that pop up out of the aether with a full knowledge of the site's history and intricacies. They spend all day shitting on regulars for "spending all day" on Getbig, while the beautiful justice of irony, albeit subtle, suffocates any legitimacy they may have managed by slipping under the radar early on.

Well said. There used to be a witty guy here called Goatboy. Now that dude knew how to embarrass his targets. He got banned for exposing that Bob Chick didn't know shit about the products he was endorsing.

I don't mind clever people like that. However, why does anyone post on a forum for years as an anonymous entity? Makes no sense to me. I guess some people think it is fun to poke fun at muscle men. You know,

they are getting even for the years and years of being no one and having little or no success in life.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on April 13, 2017, 06:47:40 PM
Arnold won.

What amazes me is that no one, virtually no one outside of such as those here, posed the quextion, "Why the fook is Dickerson even there?"

"Whose ballsack did he do the Holloweenie Bob 4 Balls on to get 2nd?" or the ever popular..."WTF?!"

How that bag of laced together scrotums won a couple of years later escapes me even more.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 07:29:11 PM
Arnold won.

What amazes me is that no one, virtually no one outside of such as those here, posed the quextion, "Why the fook is Dickerson even there?"

"Whose ballsack did he do the Holloweenie Bob 4 Balls on to get 2nd?" or the ever popular..."WTF?!"

How that bag of laced together scrotums won a couple of years later escapes me even more.

Interesting observation. Well, I was surprised after the prejudging when several bodybuilders from my gym voted for Dickerson. The truth is

the guy had a beautiful presentation and his skin looked good as well under those lights. Chris carried an injury to his elbows and you can see

how inflamed they are. He had the best calves in the contest but his upper body wasn't that impressive. He didn't look big when standing besides

Arnold, especially the chest and arms.

If you read Randy Roach's book about the 80 and 81 Olympias you will find out what happened especially with the judging.

The promoter of the contest was Paul Graham. He has been running the IFBB in Australia since the seventies. He and Arnold lived together in

LA because Gironda introduced them thinking they both came from the same country! How about that? That was in October 1968. In early

February 1969 Paul was arrested by the FBI in Hawaii for sending stolen cars back to Australia. He spent a couple of years in a US prison. Arnold

in his autobiography admits driving cars to a dock in LA that were headed for Australia. Arnold didn't mention who this mate was. Yet Paul

came to Arnold's wedding and Arnold was best man at Paul's wedding. One wonders how an alien with a criminal record returned to the USA.

Was Arnold involved in the stolen car rebirthing racket? Only those living in that house know. A curious thing. A guy named Ken Moran showed

up at the Western Gym on Hastings Street in Vancouver early in 1969. He boasted about living with Arnold. We asked why he wasn't still in LA.

He explained he was in a car accident and damaged another car but didn't have insurance so had to flee the country. Ken was from New Zealand.

We wondered how Ken drove a near new red Shelby Cobra Mustang if he smashed his car. He took that Mustang back to NZ after a couple of years

and sold it for a lot of money. Was Ken involved. Makes you wonder how he afforded that car.

So Arnold owes Paul big time and always sees Paul when visiting Australia.

Paul was allowed to pick an Australian judge so picked a young bodybuilder named Brendan Ryan. I knew him because he trained at Coogee and won a

Junior Mr Australia but no open titles that I know about. He stayed with Arnold when he visited California. Guess who he voted for in the Olympia?

On the day of the judging I was standing with Peter McCarthy and Frank Burwash. Someone came up to Pete and told him the meeting for the judges

was on. Peter was livid because he wasn't told the right time and as a result he couldn't judge the contest except as a spare judge. Peter voted for

Chris above Arnold and his vote would have resulted in Arnold not winning. Well, we don't know that because Chris could have been ahead after the

judging but lose the posedown. How the IFBB likes to be able to correct unwanted decisions.

In retrospect would Arnold still be in America if he was involved in theft of cars? I doubt it. In those days nobody knew how smart Arnold was. Would

that smart guy be unaware of what Paul was doing? I hardly think so. Arnold is street smart. Am I saying that he was involved? Not at all because

I don't know just as I don't know if Ken Moran was involved. I did have a newspaper clipping of a cartoon in an Honolulu newspaper showing a muscleman

with a car overhead. It was a story about Paul Graham being arrested by the FBI. I sent that clipping to Robert Nailon but he says he can't find it!

Photo I took of Arnold. Shows why he won the contest.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 13, 2017, 08:03:25 PM
I think the best thing that Mike did was he put out an alternative toi the training of the day that could work for those who did not respond as well to the then high volume. The smart people were the ones who took that advice and applied it to their bodies finding where it best fit them, ie look at the way Labrada and Yates praised Mike as a mentor/influence, however their training styles were adjusted to their own personal needs in a way where there was some similarities to Mike's system, but not the exact same way over time.

My only issue with him and his training system is that he did not even seem to train the last several years of his life. With his brief training system, he would have had more validity if he practiced what he preached, then again Arnold probably is guilty of the same although he has continued to work out in some fashion since he retired save that couple year period when he was governor I believe

To this day I think Mentzer influenced my training more than any other bodybuilder. I was on from the beginning. I saved every single article he wrote and every article someone else wrote about him. I might have the most complete Mike Mentzer info out there. I'm sure when I die it will be thrown in the trash.  I would say when I was 24 it was my best condition ever in my life time. I patterned my training after Mentzer who patterned his  training after Mr. Florida Frank Calta. The training he recommended after he retired rang untrue as he never trained like that for a contest.  Mentzer's down fall was his drug addiction. It led to mental illness and the rest is a tragedy. In his prime he was making 200k a year which is probably the equivalent now of a million plus a year. He blew it all on nonsense. He paid a fortune on video recording equipment that was outdated that he probably didn't even know how to use to it's full potential. He also blew his money on a magazine that was distributed no where. Wonder if his judgement was clouded under drug addiction? Regardless, outside of Arnold who are  bodybuilding fans talking about? It's Mike Mentzer. He left a legacy of thinking outside the box that will influence trainers for decades.    


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on April 13, 2017, 09:12:19 PM
Well given that it is a prove fact that Dickerson made homosexual porn, one could easily suppose that he blew his way to the top.  Or bottom.  It is one thing to be a homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.

Disgusting manHo.  He had no business being on that stage.  Mentzer or Zane should have been in 2nd and 3rd, but Dickerson?  He looks like a schome version of "Curious George" with those ears and his deformed banana elbows. 

He sold himself on film.  Disgusting.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 09:18:59 PM
To this day I think Mentzer influenced my training more than any other bodybuilder. I was on from the beginning. I saved every single article he wrote and every article someone else wrote about him. I might have the most complete Mike Mentzer info out there. I'm sure when I die it will be thrown in the trash.  I would say when I was 24 it was my best condition ever in my life time. I patterned my training after Mentzer who patterned his  training after Mr. Florida Frank Calta. The training he recommended after he retired rang untrue as he never trained like that for a contest.  Mentzer's down fall was his drug addiction. It led to mental illness and the rest is a tragedy. In his prime he was making 200k a year which is probably the equivalent now of a million plus a year. He blew it all on nonsense. He paid a fortune on video recording equipment that was outdated that he probably didn't even know how to use to it's full potential. He also blew his money on a magazine that was distributed no where. Wonder if his judgement was clouded under drug addiction? Regardless, outside of Arnold who are  bodybuilding fans talking about? It's Mike Mentzer. He left a legacy of thinking outside the box that will influence trainers for decades.    

Both Mike and Arthur Jones left a mark in bodybuilding. Especially in the theory department. Jones tried to figure out hypertrophy through logic and common sense. He derided the exercise scientists and claimed they

knew nothing.

Arthur built Nautilus equipment and that line made him a fortune. He became his own marketer and wrote long infomercials that we always read. He coined new ideas and invented many machines. Unfortunately his theory about

hypertrophy is mistaken. Intensity alone will not generate much in the way of maximum muscle size. Muscles don't contract like box cars on a train but slide across filaments. If you get the physiology and anatomy wrong your theory is

unlikely to be true. We were all impressed with HIT. Most of the big guys tried it. However, few embraced it and the vast majority of bodybuilders do volume training. If you combine a level of intensity above a certain threshold with

sufficient volume you will grow...well, providing you have sufficient nutrition and I don't mean protein. Calories in abundance is required. We don't need that much extra protein over other athletes.

Mike found a way to challenge people with new ideas so people would buy his courses and editors would buy his articles. Mike altered HIT and called it Heavy Duty. Did his brother, Ray, train like that? Well sort of. Ray lived at our

place in Sydney for over a year back in the late 80's. He would train a muscle twice a week. Once directly and once indirectly. Not many sets but lots of intensity. If a system is effective but leads to injuries it can't be the right method

for hypertrophy because those injuries will prevent you from getting really big. HIT programs work for a while but once you get super strong you are going to tear muscles and connective tissue and goodbye career.

Dorian and Ronnie both trained heavy and both destroyed their bodies. Hypertrophy doesn't require super heavy weights and the highest intensity. Mentzer knew this because he read Hans Selye's book on Stress. Sufficient intensity

coupled with adequate volume is the formula. Neither without the other will generate maximum hypertrophy.

What confuses most trainees is that they try so many things that they literally don't know what is causing the growth. That is because most hypertrophy happens so slowly it isn't detectable. If you know how to make muscles grow

they respond instantly and you can measure the difference each week.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 09:25:52 PM
Well given that it is a prove fact that Dickerson made homosexual porn, one could easily suppose that he blew his way to the top.  Or bottom.  It is one thing to be a homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.

Disgusting manHo.  He had no business being on that stage.  Mentzer or Zane should have been in 2nd and 3rd, but Dickerson?  He looks like a schome version of "Curious George" with those ears and his deformed banana elbows. 

He sold himself on film.  Disgusting.

We have a moderator here who is gay so I don't endorse putting someone down because of his sexual preferences. Suggesting that the judges are all gay is pure speculation.

If you go back to pro contests in the year before the 80 Olympia you will discover that Dickerson won the majority of them. I can tell you he delighted the audience in Sydney when

he posed. He did an exceptional presentation and carried himself with class and dignity throughout the event. Many bodybuilders in Australia favoured Chris. An organization we

started after that contest decided to send a huge trophy to Chris as the real Mr Olympia 1980. John Doyle took the trophy over and presented it to Chris. According to Randy Roach

Chris is proud to have received that trophy.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on April 13, 2017, 09:28:13 PM
We have a moderator here who is gay so I don't endorse putting someone down because of his sexual preferences. Suggesting that the judges are all gay is pure speculation.

If you go back to pro contests in the year before the 80 Olympia you will discover that Dickerson won the majority of them. I can tell you he delighted the audience in Sydney when

he posed. He did an exceptional presentation and carried himself with class and dignity throughout the event. Many bodybuilders in Australia favoured Chris. An organization we

started after that contest decided to send a huge trophy to Chris as the real Mr Olympia 1980. John Doyle took the trophy over and presented it to Chris. According to Randy Roach

Chris is proud to have received that trophy.


Since you must have somehow missed it...It is one thing to be homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.  Dickerson was a slut for hire and sans that, still did not deserve to win unless they changed the title to Mr. SchmOelympia. 

Or Mr. HOelympia.

Get it?  Got it?  Good!



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2017, 10:04:45 PM
Since you must have somehow missed it...It is one thing to be homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.  Dickerson was a slut for hire and sans that, still did not deserve to win unless they changed the title to Mr. SchmOelympia. 

Or Mr. HOelympia.

Get it?  Got it?  Good!



I could care less what homosexuals do. Got that? People, fruit, makes no difference to me.

The Scott is the one with issues here. Why does gay for pay bother him so much?

No homo.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on April 14, 2017, 04:10:01 AM
I could care less what homosexuals do. Got that? People, fruit, makes no difference to me.

The Scott is the one with issues here. Why does gay for pay bother him so much?

No homo.


Because selling oneself is repulsive and the mark of a lazy person. Bodybuilding is turgid with laziness and schmoes and their hoes are disgusting.  You read as though you approve of such behavior and if so, it can only be due to personal preferences that individuals lacking a moral compass eagerly broadcast to the world these days.  FTN. 

Perhaps you should return to the depths from which you recently oozed.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 14, 2017, 04:11:10 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on April 14, 2017, 01:52:27 PM


Photo I took of Arnold. Shows why he won the contest.
Arnold Vs. Mike in the twisted BDB.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on April 14, 2017, 01:57:47 PM
Dickerson looked small next to Arnold and his chest and arms sucked,should've been very happy with the 2nd place.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on April 14, 2017, 02:00:01 PM
...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: pellius on April 14, 2017, 02:02:49 PM
Well given that it is a prove fact that Dickerson made homosexual porn, one could easily suppose that he blew his way to the top.  Or bottom.  It is one thing to be a homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.

Disgusting manHo.  He had no business being on that stage.  Mentzer or Zane should have been in 2nd and 3rd, but Dickerson?  He looks like a schome version of "Curious George" with those ears and his deformed banana elbows. 

He sold himself on film.  Disgusting.

I am no fan of Dickerson and never should have won the O but how do you know that he had sex with the judges for higher placings? Doesn't this implicate the judges more the Chris?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on April 14, 2017, 02:15:31 PM
Arnold dominating the line up from the front.
And not only from the front


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on April 14, 2017, 02:24:20 PM
 :)


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Post by: Tarantula157 on April 14, 2017, 02:31:36 PM
 :)


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Post by: Tarantula157 on April 14, 2017, 02:41:56 PM
FLS


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 17, 2017, 07:46:56 AM
1980- the lean,dry champ




WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  TA NA KA


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on April 18, 2017, 05:32:45 AM
1980- the lean,dry champ




WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  TA NA KA
great relaxed pic imagine walking the beach like that..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Never1AShow on April 18, 2017, 05:59:45 AM
One thing I never realized until recently was that he was just head and shoulders above the rest in 1980 from an absolute size perspective.  He was a true heavyweight amongst light heavies.  That counts in the real world but can be manipulated on the Internet by those with agendas.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Dokey111 on April 18, 2017, 07:48:48 AM
Arnold's abs are not that much better than Boyer's  :o


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on April 18, 2017, 10:03:05 AM
...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on April 18, 2017, 10:19:29 AM
Genetically only two rows but much deeper etched than buyers and great serrated and intercostals.
Arnold's abs are not that much better than Boyer's  :o


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Disgusted on April 18, 2017, 02:35:38 PM
Well might as well throw in my worthless 2 cents. OK soooooo Arnie IMO deserved the win. Mentzer was off. His chest was flat his abs kind of had a washed over look to them when he was standing relaxed. Mike's whole upper body seemed to be down in size. Too much damn cardio and probably starved himself on top of it.

Arnold was prob at his best as far as conditioning and he knew he had to be not only because he was down in size but also because guys were coming in better shape too as the years passed. He never left anything to chance. He had some of the best leg separation in the show. Too bad he didn't come in a bit bigger but on this day he was still IMO the best man that day.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 18, 2017, 08:34:01 PM
WoooShhhhhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on April 18, 2017, 11:12:19 PM
Well, the problem was and the back of Mike, who not excel in details. And everybody knows how much matter in a professional bodybuilding an back with full details and large. Also he did not look great in lat spread also, even near Zane. But in about two positions ( from front), with arms raised, Mike looks really great. Maybe better than anyone.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on April 19, 2017, 12:20:55 AM
...

You can clearly see that Dennis had the best abs in the contest. A pity his posing let him down.

Definitely wider than Heath!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on April 19, 2017, 02:14:47 AM
Yea Dennis looked great in the relaxed shot, he beats all in this shot, when he opened up his physique he lost it. 
You can clearly see that Dennis had the best abs in the contest. A pity his posing let him down.

Definitely wider than Heath!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on April 19, 2017, 09:54:53 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 19, 2017, 03:09:01 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 19, 2017, 08:11:21 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=528600;image)


WooSHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 19, 2017, 08:20:52 PM
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 19, 2017, 08:21:27 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on April 20, 2017, 04:52:42 AM
(http://schwarzenegger.freeforums.net/attachment/download/129)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on April 21, 2017, 12:06:42 AM
Arnold, backstage


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 25, 2017, 04:32:19 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on April 26, 2017, 11:42:20 PM
Chris and Frank. second and 3rd


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on April 27, 2017, 08:22:11 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 01, 2017, 12:53:32 PM
WooSHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 09, 2017, 07:51:37 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=528496.0;attach=725262;image)


Beach 1980, better days With Maria




WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 09, 2017, 07:58:12 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 09, 2017, 08:08:21 AM
The King


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on May 09, 2017, 08:31:47 AM
Chris at the 1980 MO


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on May 09, 2017, 08:34:07 AM
I-I


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on May 10, 2017, 01:39:49 AM
Opera House scene. Great view


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 10, 2017, 09:47:50 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 11, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 11, 2017, 04:55:50 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on May 11, 2017, 10:11:45 PM
Nope, thats from 1974 not 1980. The last photo


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Post by: BSN on May 11, 2017, 10:19:51 PM
''


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 12, 2017, 07:49:08 AM
The King


Not 1980 .



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 15, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: JAGO on May 15, 2017, 06:49:38 PM
1973 Brooklyn Academy of Music in Brooklyn, New York.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 16, 2017, 04:21:07 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 16, 2017, 04:39:53 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 16, 2017, 04:41:04 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 16, 2017, 04:41:29 AM
What's the matter?  Ran out of 1980 pictures??


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on May 16, 2017, 11:11:20 PM
 8)


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Post by: ARNIE1947 on May 16, 2017, 11:19:45 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on May 16, 2017, 11:21:07 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on May 16, 2017, 11:23:19 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: AbrahamG on May 17, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
Would love to know the kind of numbers involved in terms of how much pussy he actually destroyed.  I think we are
probably looking at Wilt Chamberlain type digits.  Most impressive about Arnold to me is his range of pussy.  Fat bitches,
ugly bitches, Mexicans, you name it.  #OAK #GOAT


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 21, 2017, 05:33:11 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Thespritz0 on May 21, 2017, 08:17:53 AM
Would love to know the kind of numbers involved in terms of how much pussy he actually destroyed.  I think we are
probably looking at Wilt Chamberlain type digits.  Most impressive about Arnold to me is his range of pussy.  Fat bitches,
ugly bitches, Mexicans, you name it.  #OAK #GOAT
^^
One wonders if there were ever any "SPECTACULARLY" sticky/dirty ones, even celebrities?????


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on May 21, 2017, 09:06:41 AM



Roger walker looked awesome that year


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on May 22, 2017, 02:48:35 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on May 22, 2017, 02:49:45 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ARNIE1947 on May 22, 2017, 02:56:48 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on May 22, 2017, 03:47:04 AM
^^
One wonders if there were ever any "SPECTACULARLY" sticky/dirty ones, even celebrities?????

Pretty sure he rejected that Doctor Quinn Medicine woman Jane Seymour because she was very spiteful when the world found out about the Maid's child


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 01, 2017, 05:42:23 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hipolito mejia on June 02, 2017, 03:44:15 AM
In his most recent auto biography TOTAL RECALL, Arnold only dedicates one page to the 1980 mr.O.

In GetBig it's the only contest with a 30 plus page thread. 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 02, 2017, 06:46:14 AM
Beach body ??



1980 mode !


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 05, 2017, 06:23:14 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2017, 01:13:02 PM
mr u nabba 60's and 70's


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 07, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 07, 2017, 06:54:00 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 08, 2017, 04:25:35 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 08, 2017, 05:14:40 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 09, 2017, 06:18:35 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 09, 2017, 06:26:46 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2017, 09:33:10 AM
:)
imagine him this lean 10lbs more bw ^^^^^


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 17, 2017, 08:29:01 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 17, 2017, 11:55:25 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: kepler2008 on June 17, 2017, 01:29:59 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: a_pupil on June 17, 2017, 02:59:57 PM
how did that whole era (except for boyer coe and maybe sergio) avoid hairloss ??? ??? ???



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on June 17, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
how did that whole era (except for boyer coe and maybe sergio) avoid hairloss ??? ??? ???



I know, it's baffling.  No hairloss, no gyno, no acne ... enviable!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 17, 2017, 03:15:14 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on June 17, 2017, 08:17:33 PM
how did that whole era (except for boyer coe and maybe sergio) avoid hairloss ??? ??? ???



I would say it was due to the fact that they got off the stuff every once in awhile.  No need to be on year 'round and the guys I talked with back then said they didn't want to overdo it because no one knew what would happen.  That and they didn't have access to bathtub gin drugs made by high scrool chem students like the piss ant morons of today.  The term "pharma grade" made no sense because everything really did come from a pharmacy.

Other than that, only they know what they took.  Many are still alive.  Maybe the key is moderation instead of stupidity?



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: bigbychoices on June 18, 2017, 05:05:06 AM
very true. they had top quality stuff. they used very little ( compared to nowdays) they took breaks.  most would use only for a show. they would "grow" into a show . they used dball primo deca and some test. they didnt stack 4,5,6 or more at a time. they used a fair amount but not like today. most were afraid to really push it. this was late 60s and 70s and even early 80s thru mid 80s. gh was from dead people. inslulin very very few used it( if any at that time). tim belknap was a true diabetic and needed it. mentzer never admitted to using it but i think he did. he did an interview with belknap about his insulin use and shortly thereafter he got a gut. he was really the first guy with a gut even in shape. again im not sure he never admitted it no me or i really didnt care to ask him cuz not many knew anything about insulin use. they also didnt really do any pct either. again they just went off most shrunk down some got fat. in fact it wasnt really until they really upped the dose stayed on year round had alot of new and  different compounds and then a few gurus came along ( duchaine used to pimp out bill phillips to a doc to get nolvadex lol ) that pct became used. and then the hair loss became rampant.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2017, 06:16:47 AM
very true. they had top quality stuff. they used very little ( compared to nowdays) they took breaks.  most would use only for a show. they would "grow" into a show . they used dball primo deca and some test. they didnt stack 4,5,6 or more at a time. they used a fair amount but not like today. most were afraid to really push it. this was late 60s and 70s and even early 80s thru mid 80s. gh was from dead people. inslulin very very few used it( if any at that time). tim belknap was a true diabetic and needed it. mentzer never admitted to using it but i think he did. he did an interview with belknap about his insulin use and shortly thereafter he got a gut. he was really the first guy with a gut even in shape. again im not sure he never admitted it no me or i really didnt care to ask him cuz not many knew anything about insulin use. they also didnt really do any pct either. again they just went off most shrunk down some got fat. in fact it wasnt really until they really upped the dose stayed on year round had alot of new and  different compounds and then a few gurus came along ( duchaine used to pimp out bill phillips to a doc to get nolvadex lol ) that pct became used. and then the hair loss became rampant.
and pre internet and magazine era you never saw off seaso pics like nowadays,,i think wbf magzine was the 1st time you saw non contest pics and the new conference pics they had tank tops and the guys were white/smooth offseason bloat look,,,weider mags showed sometimes his weight gainer ads with 90's guys like newman,mattarrazo  i was this to this on weider 4000 otherwise it was top in shape pics,,,


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Griffith on June 19, 2017, 06:23:14 AM
I know, it's baffling.  No hairloss, no gyno, no acne ... enviable!

Is there an explanation for this...?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 19, 2017, 09:01:07 PM
WooShhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: obsidian on June 19, 2017, 09:29:29 PM
And not only from the front
They all (Mentzer, Zane, Dickerson etc.) look like midgets standing next to Arnold. He totally deserved winning the 80 Mr. O.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 20, 2017, 12:59:48 AM
very true. they had top quality stuff. they used very little ( compared to nowdays) they took breaks.  most would use only for a show. they would "grow" into a show . they used dball primo deca and some test. they didnt stack 4,5,6 or more at a time. they used a fair amount but not like today. most were afraid to really push it. this was late 60s and 70s and even early 80s thru mid 80s. gh was from dead people. inslulin very very few used it( if any at that time). tim belknap was a true diabetic and needed it. mentzer never admitted to using it but i think he did. he did an interview with belknap about his insulin use and shortly thereafter he got a gut. he was really the first guy with a gut even in shape. again im not sure he never admitted it no me or i really didnt care to ask him cuz not many knew anything about insulin use. they also didnt really do any pct either. again they just went off most shrunk down some got fat. in fact it wasnt really until they really upped the dose stayed on year round had alot of new and  different compounds and then a few gurus came along ( duchaine used to pimp out bill phillips to a doc to get nolvadex lol ) that pct became used. and then the hair loss became rampant.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 20, 2017, 11:41:01 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 20, 2017, 11:47:10 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 20, 2017, 11:53:43 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: bigbychoices on June 20, 2017, 01:06:49 PM
i remember when arnold won the 80 olympia. i was so excited to see him come back after 5 years. i was expecting him to look like ARNOLD. but instead i was dissapointed in his look. he looked like everyone else. but then after i understood what i was seeing (it took time)  and i realized he was better than everyone else that day. yes it was close. i wasnt used to anyone being close ( other than sergio) to arnold. he came in light and lean. he wasnt his usual massive balanced self. so when people say he shouldnt of won they are comparing the 80 arnold to previous versions of arnold. its true he doesnt look like arnold but he was good enough to beat all them other guys.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 20, 2017, 05:06:11 PM
WooSSHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on June 20, 2017, 09:06:48 PM
Dickerson sucked. 

Which is probably why he placed higher than Zane or Mentzer.    He is the worst Olympia winner ever.  even worse that Franco in 81.    Just disgusting. Looks like Curious George with pointy elbows.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 20, 2017, 11:49:58 PM
Dickerson sucked. 

Which is probably why he placed higher than Zane or Mentzer.    He is the worst Olympia winner ever.  even worse that Franco in 81.    Just disgusting. Looks like Curious George with pointy elbows.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 20, 2017, 11:52:51 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hipolito mejia on June 21, 2017, 04:32:54 AM
Dickerson sucked. 

Which is probably why he placed higher than Zane or Mentzer.    He is the worst Olympia winner ever.  even worse that Franco in 81.    Just disgusting. Looks like Curious George with pointy elbows.

He was the best bodybuilder from the back in all poses in 1980. Flexing and relaxed. 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on June 21, 2017, 07:12:14 AM
Dickerson was ahead of most condition wise too.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 21, 2017, 09:28:26 AM
He was the best bodybuilder from the back in all poses in 1980. Flexing and relaxed. 
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Relaxed-yes,flexed-Arnold's back looked better.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 21, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
Dickerson was ahead of most condition wise too.
Yes,but his arms and chest sucked big time.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 21, 2017, 09:54:33 AM

Zane looked tiny in 1980


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 21, 2017, 10:01:51 AM
Still looked great in some shots


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on June 21, 2017, 12:12:00 PM
Zane looks better than mentzer in the fls and ab/though shots there


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on June 21, 2017, 01:37:40 PM
Mentzer was definitely way off there... just came in too light. You can see it in his face how lean he was but he gave up too much size


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 21, 2017, 04:27:57 PM
Zane looks better than mentzer in the fls and ab/though shots there
He does


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 25, 2017, 05:54:00 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on June 26, 2017, 06:58:31 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 27, 2017, 06:21:56 PM
'Mike Mentzer, we all know Zane beat you last year because you have a big stomach!'

Arnold was telling the truth . Mentzer folded


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Conker on June 28, 2017, 02:11:41 AM
go clean up that bedist of yours and take a break from ogling pics of other men you dirty fkin fagget.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: pellius on June 29, 2017, 01:22:24 AM
go clean up that bedist of yours and take a break from ogling pics of other men you dirty fkin fagget.

I've had my issues with ND but, come on man, leave this thread alone. There's more than enough of bull shit threads but only a precious few that represent what this board was suppose to be.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Conker on June 29, 2017, 01:28:09 AM
I've had my issues with ND but, come on man, leave this thread alone. There's more than enough of bull shit threads but only a precious few that represent what this board was suppose to be.

yeh fair enough. i didn't actually notice what the thread was. only posted here because the thread where ND was marveling in the fact that he is filthy stalker kunt had been taken down. won't post again in this thread.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: pellius on June 29, 2017, 01:33:02 AM
yeh fair enough. i didn't actually notice what the thread was. only posted here because the thread where ND was marveling in the fact that he is filthy stalker kunt had been taken down. won't post again in this thread.

 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 29, 2017, 04:22:09 PM
'Mike Mentzer, we all know Zane beat you last year because you have a big stomach!'

Arnold was telling the truth . Mentzer folded


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 29, 2017, 04:26:02 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 01, 2017, 04:16:37 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 01, 2017, 12:31:44 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: bigbychoices on July 01, 2017, 02:55:28 PM
why was arnold on stage with a bunch of swimmers?  lmao!!!! he dwarfs them all and he wasnt at his best!!!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on July 01, 2017, 05:18:32 PM
Yep, even walker the second biggest guy was dwarfed.

why was arnold on stage with a bunch of swimmers?  lmao!!!! he dwarfs them all and he wasnt at his best!!!


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 03, 2017, 01:04:24 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 03, 2017, 01:07:41 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 03, 2017, 01:53:00 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 03, 2017, 03:27:21 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 03, 2017, 03:34:46 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 03, 2017, 03:41:43 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 04, 2017, 08:12:44 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 05, 2017, 05:22:55 AM
:)

Shallow back and incredibly poor hamstrings by Olympia standards.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on July 05, 2017, 01:07:41 PM
Not a bdb shot though,  taken from behind but actually a fdb for the audience so back isn't flexed properly.
Shallow back and incredibly poor hamstrings by Olympia standards.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on July 08, 2017, 04:26:11 AM
I found another photo I took from the 1980 Mr Olympia. Marks are from plastic covering.

Mike wins this lat spread comparison.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 08, 2017, 04:38:34 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 08, 2017, 04:40:10 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 08, 2017, 04:41:19 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 08, 2017, 04:57:23 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on July 08, 2017, 05:09:20 AM
Have walker and arnold been edited out in those last 2 group shots?
Funny how arnold is as wide as Mike stood in the background


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on July 08, 2017, 06:20:58 AM
Have walker and arnold been edited out in those last 2 group shots?
Funny how arnold is as wide as Mike stood in the background

What do you mean? They are both in each pic


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on July 08, 2017, 07:17:09 AM
I cropped Mike out of a photo and removed the background. On his own he looks great.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on July 08, 2017, 07:26:53 AM
Still way off from his earlier form.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 08, 2017, 09:29:55 AM
Still way off from his earlier form.

He wasn't competing with his earlier form.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 08, 2017, 03:22:41 PM
I found another photo I took from the 1980 Mr Olympia. Marks are from plastic covering.

Mike wins this lat spread comparison.
Same pose,another shot-Arnold dwarfs everyone including Mike.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 08, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 08, 2017, 03:39:38 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on July 09, 2017, 07:30:55 AM
He wasn't competing with his earlier form.

What do you mean?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on July 09, 2017, 10:21:55 AM
Meaning people compare him too much to previous showings when he wasn't competing with that but other bodybuilders who he still smoked.

What do you mean?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 09, 2017, 12:53:03 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: TheGreatOak on July 09, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
:)

This is a great comparison, as is the one by Vince of the back lat spread. Mentzer looked great next to Arnold in the back lat spread. Better hamstrings, calves equal, Mentzer's arms looked better, back about equal.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 10, 2017, 12:58:07 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 10, 2017, 01:00:48 PM
WooSHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 11, 2017, 03:38:31 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 13, 2017, 03:19:18 PM
This is a great comparison, as is the one by Vince of the back lat spread. Mentzer looked great next to Arnold in the back lat spread. Better hamstrings, calves equal, Mentzer's arms looked better, back about equal.
Agree that Mentzer's hamstrings and arms look better in that pose but Arnold's calves and shoulders look better. Back looks about equal in this picture ,although in other similar shots Arnold's back looks clearly superior.
And Mentzer's glutes a way too big and soft (no homo  ;D )


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Eric2 on July 13, 2017, 06:13:16 PM
Arnold from the front and side beats most everybody. Arnold from the back...................n ot so much.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on July 14, 2017, 09:30:23 AM
1980 - Was it the best version of Arnold that Day - No

Was he the Best on that Stage that day - Yes - Close call
Others were good.

Just as well Arnold was not at his Best - Some competitors
May of ended up committing Suicide - As he would of
Completely overshadowed them.

They couldn't handle the loss as it was.

They should of gone away & come back better as
Arnold did after his loss to Zane & Sergio.



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 14, 2017, 03:46:24 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Natural_O on July 15, 2017, 06:25:23 AM
The 1980 Mr. Olympia is definitely the most debated contest ever. I just saw a video by Norm Komich recently and I can understand why it was so controversial. Norm was at the show and he filmed it from the balcony using his video camera. Arnold's legs were really down in size and there were a lot of guys who were in top shape. Zane, Mentzer, Coe, Walker, Callendar and Dickerson were all peaked and ripped. The fact that Arnold didn't let anyone know he was competing and he also had friends on the judging panel (Reg Park, Albert Busek, Mits) created a lot of resentment from all the top competitors. Looking at it from Norm's video (and not pictures, which don't always tell the story), you can see the big weakness in Arnold's legs. Although he still looked great for the limited amount of time training for the show, a lot of the audience and all the other competitors didn't feel like he deserved the victory because he had a glaring weak point (just like Franco did one year later). Like Zane said after the contest, when you have had a layoff that long and you only train for a couple months, the strong bodyparts (Arnold's arms, chest, back) are going to come back quick but his weaker muscle groups (legs, delts) are going to lag behind.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on July 15, 2017, 10:26:24 AM
And Sergio, in great shape, was not there.. Sergio looks great in 1980 in both contests when he defeated Kalman and Bertil..


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hipolito mejia on July 15, 2017, 10:37:25 AM
And Sergio, in great shape, was not there.. Sergio looks great in 1980 in both contests when he defeated Kalman and Bertil..

Sergio would have crushed Arnold in 1980.

Interesting to have beaten Arnold on his Olympua debut and final one  on your resume.

Would've been so easy for Oliva. 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on July 15, 2017, 01:02:15 PM
Sergio would have crushed Arnold in 1980.

Interesting to have beaten Arnold on his Olympua debut and final one  on your resume.

Would've been so easy for Oliva. 




Just from them pics I'd say Sergio would of won
That being said had Sergio of been competing that year
Arnold would've either prepared better & for longer
Or just not of competed.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Be There on July 15, 2017, 01:05:38 PM
To be fair i dont even think a prime Ronnie would have beat Arnold at that show, same way he wouldn't have beaten Franco in 81, they were scripted.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 16, 2017, 04:03:41 PM
To be fair i dont even think a prime Ronnie would have beat Arnold at that show, same way he wouldn't have beaten Franco in 81, they were scripted.

This.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 16, 2017, 04:27:44 PM
Sergio would have crushed Arnold in 1980.

Interesting to have beaten Arnold on his Olympua debut and final one  on your resume.

Would've been so easy for Oliva. 
If Arnold lost the 1980 Olympia this would not have been his last contest,that's for sure. He would have come back in 1981 at his best.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 16, 2017, 04:37:46 PM
The 1980 Mr. Olympia is definitely the most debated contest ever. I just saw a video by Norm Komich recently and I can understand why it was so controversial. Norm was at the show and he filmed it from the balcony using his video camera. Arnold's legs were really down in size and there were a lot of guys who were in top shape. Zane, Mentzer, Coe, Walker, Callendar and Dickerson were all peaked and ripped. The fact that Arnold didn't let anyone know he was competing and he also had friends on the judging panel (Reg Park, Albert Busek, Mits) created a lot of resentment from all the top competitors. Looking at it from Norm's video (and not pictures, which don't always tell the story), you can see the big weakness in Arnold's legs. Although he still looked great for the limited amount of time training for the show, a lot of the audience and all the other competitors didn't feel like he deserved the victory because he had a glaring weak point (just like Franco did one year later). Like Zane said after the contest, when you have had a layoff that long and you only train for a couple months, the strong bodyparts (Arnold's arms, chest, back) are going to come back quick but his weaker muscle groups (legs, delts) are going to lag behind.
I've seen this video as well. Being shot from the balcony it gives a distorted perspective of how the physiques looked(heads closer to the camera,legs further away etc.).And this affects Arnold the most as he was the tallest competitor. The other videos and pictures taken from behind the judges table give much better perspective.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 16, 2017, 04:43:26 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 16, 2017, 04:52:25 PM
I believe these screencaps are from Norm Komich's video.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 17, 2017, 02:57:04 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Natural_O on July 17, 2017, 04:02:23 PM
I've seen this video as well. Being shot from the balcony it gives a distorted perspective of how the physiques looked(heads closer to the camera,legs further away etc.).And this affects Arnold the most as he was the tallest competitor. The other videos and pictures taken from behind the judges table give much better perspective.

Yeah, that's a good point.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on July 18, 2017, 06:02:00 AM
Yea  and if you look all of their legs look unusually longer and slimmer.
Yeah, that's a good point.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BSN on July 18, 2017, 09:33:06 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on July 18, 2017, 09:39:54 AM
It's strange at the 80, in many shots arnolds thighs from the side looked great with better hams and separation than before, his traps were really huge and wide and delts looked more rounded. When he was introduced and walked on stage in the comeback/ total rebuild he looks awesome


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 20, 2017, 02:40:49 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 20, 2017, 06:05:33 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on July 20, 2017, 08:12:44 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=736622;image)
 :)

There is no fooking way that man-hoe butt-slut Dicksuckerson should have been allowed on stage, much less come in second place.  What a waste of drugs,  macaroni-elbowed butt-munching munchkin he was.

Mentzer or Zane deserved 2nd. 


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 23, 2017, 10:23:27 AM
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on July 23, 2017, 10:32:23 AM
Arnold's arms are as big as dickersons legs side on.
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Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 23, 2017, 10:37:40 AM
Arnold's arms are as big as dickersons legs side on.
He dwarfs Dickerson and Zane big time.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on July 23, 2017, 11:45:02 AM
Yea and look at them side on, barely any chest visible, arnolds is ridiculous. His arm is also the same width of their torso front to back.

He dwarfs Dickerson and Zane big time.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2017, 03:30:57 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2017, 06:11:25 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 24, 2017, 04:15:08 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on July 25, 2017, 05:57:26 AM
Again, look at the superior hamstring separation in 80. So while some size was missing, he made up for it with new qualities
:)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: AB on July 25, 2017, 05:58:40 AM
we all know arnold never won the show ::)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on July 25, 2017, 01:33:26 PM
we all know arnold never won the show ::)



We all know he did Win.

It's you that has the mental block.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Straw Man on July 25, 2017, 01:45:36 PM
There is no fooking way that man-hoe butt-slut Dicksuckerson should have been allowed on stage, much less come in second place.  What a waste of drugs,  macaroni-elbowed butt-munching munchkin he was.

Mentzer or Zane deserved 2nd. 

why exactly shouldn't he have been allowed on stage?


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 25, 2017, 01:57:59 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: illuminati on July 25, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
There is no fooking way that man-hoe butt-slut Dicksuckerson should have been allowed on stage, much less come in second place.  What a waste of drugs,  macaroni-elbowed butt-munching munchkin he was.

Mentzer or Zane deserved 2nd. 

why exactly shouldn't he have been allowed on stage?




At a guess I would say Scott Dosent like the Arse loving queer
And also Dosent like his awful physique

Hence why he thinks he shouldn't of been on stage.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 25, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
we all know arnold never won the show ::)
So who won?  :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on July 25, 2017, 07:08:41 PM
why exactly shouldn't he have been allowed on stage?

He was awful.  That's why.  His physique was vastly inferior.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: The Scott on July 25, 2017, 07:12:05 PM



At a guess I would say Scott Dosent like the Arse loving queer
And also Dosent like his awful physique

Hence why he thinks he shouldn't of been on stage.

You, sir...Are truly illuminated. ;D  That is exactly why.  Dickerson was a flaming butt-slut who sold himself by making porn films and his physique sucked even more than he did.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on July 25, 2017, 07:25:01 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=736956;image)

Brutal chest on Mike...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: AbrahamG on July 25, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Brutal chest on Mike...

Can't win Mr. Olympia with a chest worse than Craig Titus.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on July 25, 2017, 07:51:06 PM
Can't win Mr. Olympia with a chest worse than Craig Titus.

 :-\

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=628065.0;attach=737034;image)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 25, 2017, 10:12:44 PM
Can't win Mr. Olympia with a chest worse than Craig Titus.
Add to that being narrow(more than Heath) and having a big gut.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Megalodon on August 03, 2017, 05:29:56 PM
Zanier looking


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on August 03, 2017, 05:45:14 PM
Add to that being narrow(more than Heath) and having a big gut.

Ahh...the days when standing relaxed from the side....actually had them standing fully sideways.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Vince B on August 03, 2017, 07:23:32 PM
Ahh...the days when standing relaxed from the side....actually had them standing fully sideways.

Not quite. Arnold 'cheated' by twisting a bit. See photo above.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: Nether Animal on August 04, 2017, 03:48:46 PM
Zanier looking

Looks narrower than usual... One disadvantage to having big sloping traps.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: hench on August 05, 2017, 03:45:00 AM
It's a very odd pic, like his head has been enlarged.
Looks narrower than usual... One disadvantage to having big sloping traps.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 06, 2017, 07:25:50 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 06, 2017, 07:50:14 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 06, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
Read em and weep !!



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 20, 2017, 03:20:14 PM
LMAO Arnold in 1980 in Australia with Bev Francis  :-X


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 21, 2017, 03:44:07 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 23, 2017, 07:42:37 AM
:)


Running out of 1980 pics?



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: TheGreatOak on August 23, 2017, 02:48:37 PM

Running out of 1980 pics?



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

He probably just misplaced the images, meaning to post in the regular Arnold thread. Like 1975, there are a plethora of 1980 pics around. Probably more than 1975. I also enjoy the candid pics of Arnold out and about, like the one above.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 23, 2017, 07:01:34 PM
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: BSN on September 01, 2017, 02:31:34 AM
1980


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: hench on September 01, 2017, 04:42:19 AM
Never seen that before, he looks fantastic
1980


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: sculpture on September 01, 2017, 10:56:43 AM
It's a shop

His face is from 1980, his body isn't


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: BSN on September 01, 2017, 11:18:28 AM
It's a picture published in Weider's books. Looks pretty good in 1980 with a minus to his arms


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: hench on September 01, 2017, 11:20:27 AM
No its not, there is a most muscular from that shoot too I scanned in many years.  He's got the same smaller trunks on than the 70s.

It's a shop

His face is from 1980, his body isn't


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger 1980 only - the lean,dry champ"
Post by: kevin25 on September 01, 2017, 11:22:38 AM
LMAO Arnold in 1980 in Australia with Bev Francis  :-X
You mean Ben Francis?  :o


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: MAXX on September 01, 2017, 11:34:10 AM
here we see clerarly that Mentzer is the better bber

Arnold has him beat in pecs thats about it...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=734221)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=734217)



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: pellius on September 02, 2017, 02:05:10 AM
here we see clerarly that Mentzer is the better bber

Arnold has him beat in pecs thats about it...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=734221)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=481253.0;attach=734217)



Well, you will get a lot of disagreement on the Arnold comparison but Mike does blow away Zane, Boyer and Dickerson.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: karasan on September 02, 2017, 04:43:52 AM
Zane had amazing tie-ins, his deltoids are nothing short of phonemonal, wide, square, ripped and capped.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 02, 2017, 05:05:42 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 02, 2017, 05:06:31 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 16, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 18, 2017, 01:20:50 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 23, 2017, 08:29:19 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 23, 2017, 08:46:39 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: BSN on September 23, 2017, 09:03:26 AM
Gorilla Balls  ;D


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 23, 2017, 09:10:32 AM
Gorilla Balls  ;D

LMAO I wonder who the marketing genius of that brand was? And if he's still employed.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 05, 2017, 04:23:50 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 05, 2017, 04:32:12 PM
Mike-The-Fucking-Gut-Mentzer was NOT beating Arnold in 1980


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Nether Animal on October 05, 2017, 10:08:08 PM
Mike-The-Fucking-Gut-Mentzer was NOT beating Arnold in 1980

Truly.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: hench on October 06, 2017, 02:23:41 AM
No arnolds significantly wider while having a slimmer waist stood well behind meatier with a much thicket chest. Mentzer from the side was not good atall.
Mike-The-Fucking-Gut-Mentzer was NOT beating Arnold in 1980


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 06, 2017, 07:40:50 AM
No arnolds significantly wider while having a slimmer waist stood well behind meatier with a much thicket chest. Mentzer from the side was not good atall.

This.

WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: bigbychoices on October 06, 2017, 08:09:07 AM
like i have posted before. in my opinion menzter was the first bb to have the gut. arnold knew it too. he fucked mikes head up in 1980  said calmly to him "mike you lost in 79 cuz you have a big gut"  mike went nuts. arnold just remained calm and cool. then later on stage all arnold had to do was smile at mike and mike lost it his big gut hung out and arnold just laughed.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: hench on October 06, 2017, 09:11:50 AM
Unfortunately the truth hurts, Mike obviously knew it was a weakness and couldn't argue it. I agree,
Before mentzer I don't recall a gut. Arnold could easily mess with people's heads and mentzer made himself an easy target.

 
like i have posted before. in my opinion menzter was the first bb to have the gut. arnold knew it too. he fucked mikes head up in 1980  said calmly to him "mike you lost in 79 cuz you have a big gut"  mike went nuts. arnold just remained calm and cool. then later on stage all arnold had to do was smile at mike and mike lost it his big gut hung out and arnold just laughed.



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Nether Animal on October 06, 2017, 06:16:31 PM
Mentzer overdieted, presumably in an attempt to avoid a gut. He looked patently flat and depleted in the side shots. His chest was hit the hardest.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 06, 2017, 06:30:16 PM
Arnold at 80% could beat a Mentzer at 100%.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Dan-O on October 06, 2017, 07:13:54 PM
  • Roger Walker was in the shape of his life and was huge but would have looked better with a better tan.
  • Mentzer was also in the shape of his life but just didn't have Arnold's aesthetic appeal.  And Mike's muscles just didn't "pop" like the guys who placed ahead of him.
  • Coe was in great shape but wasn't big enough to beat the bigger guys.  Also, he was all arms and legs--his abs and back were subpar.
  • Zane looked great (was planning on showing up in 1980 at over 200 lbs. for the first time in his career) but didn't compare to his '79 version due to his training being disrupted due to injury (severed urethra).
  • Dickerson had a great back and calves.  His arms were probably 16.5 inches and he had weird abs.  And a torn pec and bicep.  But he had so much detail and he could pose so masterfully.
  • Arnold at 90% of his past shape was still better than the rest.  He deserved his last Mr. Olympia win.  Final answer.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: tommywishbone on October 06, 2017, 08:31:26 PM
  • Roger Walker was in the shape of his life and was huge but would have looked better with a better tan.
  • Mentzer was also in the shape of his life but just didn't have Arnold's aesthetic appeal.  And Mike's muscles just didn't "pop" like the guys who placed ahead of him.
  • Coe was in great shape but wasn't big enough to beat the bigger guys.  Also, he was all arms and legs--his abs and back were subpar.
  • Zane looked great (was planning on showing up in 1980 at over 200 lbs. for the first time in his career) but didn't compare to his '79 version due to his training being disrupted due to injury (severed urethra).
  • Dickerson had a great back and calves.  His arms were probably 16.5 inches and he had weird abs.  And a torn pec and bicep.  But he had so much detail and he could pose so masterfully.
  • Arnold at 90% of his past shape was still better than the rest.  He deserved his last Mr. Olympia win.  Final answer.

 :) This thread is now closed.



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Dan-O on October 06, 2017, 09:02:32 PM
:) This thread is now closed.

 ;D

Also, at the 1980 O Tony Emmott displayed the worst case of gyno I've seen before or since.  He should have been embarrassed to even get onstage.  There's a pic floating around of him doing a front lat spread in this show and the bitch tit on his right pec is literally hanging down 2-3 inches past his pec.  Just awful.



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Dan-O on October 06, 2017, 09:44:31 PM
Arnold displaying a Christmas tree in the 1980 O, before it was a thing (screen cap from 1980 Olympia video, pardon the poor quality):


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: tommywishbone on October 06, 2017, 09:52:39 PM
It's funny, Roger Walker gets little mention in this awesome line up, but he was real good that night.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Dan-O on October 06, 2017, 10:03:37 PM
It's funny, Roger Walker gets little mention in this awesome line up, but he was real good that night.


Speaking of Roger Walker, and of Christmas trees.  His back was phenomenal.  Holy shit.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: TheGreatOak on October 06, 2017, 11:28:44 PM
It's funny, Roger Walker gets little mention in this awesome line up, but he was real good that night.


Pretty much everyone was 'on' there. Zane, Dickerson, Callender, Walker, Mentzer, Arnold (albeit 85-90% of his best.)

It was definitely one of the most impressive line-ups in Olympia history, given (if I remember correctly) that every contender had to be a Mr. Universe winner.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 07, 2017, 01:59:39 AM
If Mike would have filled out for 3 weeks and upped his kcal abit he would have dominated this shit so bad...


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: illuminati on October 07, 2017, 02:15:02 AM
If Mike would have filled out for 3 weeks and upped his kcal abit he would have dominated this shit so bad...

3 weeks to fill out. ??

yes he was over dieted & small for the show.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 07, 2017, 04:13:07 AM
Yes. He was already in awesome shape from dieting all year to get in Zanes shape. This is a trick I learned from Milos. After a long diet you fill out as crazy the weeks after. Pop a diuretic and youre good to go.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Nether Animal on October 07, 2017, 05:35:43 AM
Speaking of Roger Walker, and of Christmas trees.  His back was phenomenal.  Holy shit.

Yup, easily his best. Lots of guys were on point in 80 but fell hard by 81-82. He was one of them.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: hench on October 07, 2017, 06:05:44 AM
Second biggest guy there but still dwarfed by Arnold.
It's funny, Roger Walker gets little mention in this awesome line up, but he was real good that night.



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
Post by: Natural_O on October 07, 2017, 07:38:27 AM
I remember reading that Mentzer turned up the heat in his hotel room in Sydney, turning it into a sauna so he could dry out even more.