Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ

[hench]

Coz he's tiny, literally disappears even next to boyer coe there

Looking at this photo and the one above how the fuck did Danny Padilla not place higher? He looks to be the most muscular in the line up in those photos.

[Vince B]

Looking at this photo and the one above how the fuck did Danny Padilla not place higher? He looks to be the most muscular in the line up in those photos.

I don't recall Danny being called out to be compared. No doubt he had the best all round physique there. A pity they didn't judge short guys properly. He had

size, shape, proportions and was in good condition. He came back the following year with less body fat but the contest went to Franco. Lots of booing then.

[Vince B]

Abs 1980.

[Thespritz0]

Abs 1980.

^^
Good to see you posting again, Vince!!!!!!!

[illuminati]

Good to see your back posting Vince.

Where have you been.

No doubt we will cross swords again at some point.
 

[Vince B]

Good to see your back posting Vince.

Where have you been.

No doubt we will cross swords again at some point.
 

Like GH15 says, no one leaves the boarding...they lurk. I had a couple of dorks harass me for a couple of years. Then so much crap has been posted about me

that it appears on a Google search. Not nice. However, wtf can I do about it now? Nothing. The price I pay to be a known person on Getbig. There are always some intelligent

people here that make the place tolerable.

No homo!

[illuminati]

Like GH15 says, no one leaves the boarding...they lurk. I had a couple of dorks harass me for a couple of years. Then so much crap has been posted about me

that it appears on a Google search. Not nice. However, wtf can I do about it now? Nothing. The price I pay to be a known person on Getbig. There are always some intelligent

people here that make the place tolerable.

No homo!

What the Fcuk - I hope the idiots harassing you have either been barred or matured enough to stop.

Have you tried contacting google and asking for said items to be removed.

[Vince B]

What the Fcuk - I hope the idiots harassing you have either been barred or matured enough to stop.

Have you tried contacting google and asking for said items to be removed.

What can be done? Bugger all. Teutonic Knight was banned and we think the other dude from Nova Scotia died. Good riddance to those two.

Goodrum opened a site in my full name and when you clicked on the link it opened at NAMBLA home page. Now that was defamation. That asshole Goodrum

is a low life if there ever was one. He doesn't have assets so can't be sued.

People harvested photos from one of my sites and modified photos to embarrass me. They also posted photos of my family and girlfriends here which is

totally against the rules. Ron removed stuff if requested. Some nasty people are persistent but since they are anonymous there is little that anyone can do.

[Nether Animal]

Some nasty people are persistent but since they are anonymous there is little that anyone can do.[/color]

Most of the nastiest, shittiest posters are anonymous gimmicks that pop up out of the aether with a full knowledge of the site's history and intricacies. They spend all day shitting on regulars for "spending all day" on Getbig, while the beautiful justice of irony, albeit subtle, suffocates any legitimacy they may have managed by slipping under the radar early on.

[Vince B]

Most of the nastiest, shittiest posters are anonymous gimmicks that pop up out of the aether with a full knowledge of the site's history and intricacies. They spend all day shitting on regulars for "spending all day" on Getbig, while the beautiful justice of irony, albeit subtle, suffocates any legitimacy they may have managed by slipping under the radar early on.

Well said. There used to be a witty guy here called Goatboy. Now that dude knew how to embarrass his targets. He got banned for exposing that Bob Chick didn't know shit about the products he was endorsing.

I don't mind clever people like that. However, why does anyone post on a forum for years as an anonymous entity? Makes no sense to me. I guess some people think it is fun to poke fun at muscle men. You know,

they are getting even for the years and years of being no one and having little or no success in life.

[The Scott]

Arnold won.

What amazes me is that no one, virtually no one outside of such as those here, posed the quextion, "Why the fook is Dickerson even there?"

"Whose ballsack did he do the Holloweenie Bob 4 Balls on to get 2nd?" or the ever popular..."WTF?!"

How that bag of laced together scrotums won a couple of years later escapes me even more.

[Vince B]

Arnold won.

What amazes me is that no one, virtually no one outside of such as those here, posed the quextion, "Why the fook is Dickerson even there?"

"Whose ballsack did he do the Holloweenie Bob 4 Balls on to get 2nd?" or the ever popular..."WTF?!"

How that bag of laced together scrotums won a couple of years later escapes me even more.

Interesting observation. Well, I was surprised after the prejudging when several bodybuilders from my gym voted for Dickerson. The truth is

the guy had a beautiful presentation and his skin looked good as well under those lights. Chris carried an injury to his elbows and you can see

how inflamed they are. He had the best calves in the contest but his upper body wasn't that impressive. He didn't look big when standing besides

Arnold, especially the chest and arms.

If you read Randy Roach's book about the 80 and 81 Olympias you will find out what happened especially with the judging.

The promoter of the contest was Paul Graham. He has been running the IFBB in Australia since the seventies. He and Arnold lived together in

LA because Gironda introduced them thinking they both came from the same country! How about that? That was in October 1968. In early

February 1969 Paul was arrested by the FBI in Hawaii for sending stolen cars back to Australia. He spent a couple of years in a US prison. Arnold

in his autobiography admits driving cars to a dock in LA that were headed for Australia. Arnold didn't mention who this mate was. Yet Paul

came to Arnold's wedding and Arnold was best man at Paul's wedding. One wonders how an alien with a criminal record returned to the USA.

Was Arnold involved in the stolen car rebirthing racket? Only those living in that house know. A curious thing. A guy named Ken Moran showed

up at the Western Gym on Hastings Street in Vancouver early in 1969. He boasted about living with Arnold. We asked why he wasn't still in LA.

He explained he was in a car accident and damaged another car but didn't have insurance so had to flee the country. Ken was from New Zealand.

We wondered how Ken drove a near new red Shelby Cobra Mustang if he smashed his car. He took that Mustang back to NZ after a couple of years

and sold it for a lot of money. Was Ken involved. Makes you wonder how he afforded that car.

So Arnold owes Paul big time and always sees Paul when visiting Australia.

Paul was allowed to pick an Australian judge so picked a young bodybuilder named Brendan Ryan. I knew him because he trained at Coogee and won a

Junior Mr Australia but no open titles that I know about. He stayed with Arnold when he visited California. Guess who he voted for in the Olympia?

On the day of the judging I was standing with Peter McCarthy and Frank Burwash. Someone came up to Pete and told him the meeting for the judges

was on. Peter was livid because he wasn't told the right time and as a result he couldn't judge the contest except as a spare judge. Peter voted for

Chris above Arnold and his vote would have resulted in Arnold not winning. Well, we don't know that because Chris could have been ahead after the

judging but lose the posedown. How the IFBB likes to be able to correct unwanted decisions.

In retrospect would Arnold still be in America if he was involved in theft of cars? I doubt it. In those days nobody knew how smart Arnold was. Would

that smart guy be unaware of what Paul was doing? I hardly think so. Arnold is street smart. Am I saying that he was involved? Not at all because

I don't know just as I don't know if Ken Moran was involved. I did have a newspaper clipping of a cartoon in an Honolulu newspaper showing a muscleman

with a car overhead. It was a story about Paul Graham being arrested by the FBI. I sent that clipping to Robert Nailon but he says he can't find it!

Photo I took of Arnold. Shows why he won the contest.

[oldtimer1]

I think the best thing that Mike did was he put out an alternative toi the training of the day that could work for those who did not respond as well to the then high volume. The smart people were the ones who took that advice and applied it to their bodies finding where it best fit them, ie look at the way Labrada and Yates praised Mike as a mentor/influence, however their training styles were adjusted to their own personal needs in a way where there was some similarities to Mike's system, but not the exact same way over time.

My only issue with him and his training system is that he did not even seem to train the last several years of his life. With his brief training system, he would have had more validity if he practiced what he preached, then again Arnold probably is guilty of the same although he has continued to work out in some fashion since he retired save that couple year period when he was governor I believe

To this day I think Mentzer influenced my training more than any other bodybuilder. I was on from the beginning. I saved every single article he wrote and every article someone else wrote about him. I might have the most complete Mike Mentzer info out there. I'm sure when I die it will be thrown in the trash.  I would say when I was 24 it was my best condition ever in my life time. I patterned my training after Mentzer who patterned his  training after Mr. Florida Frank Calta. The training he recommended after he retired rang untrue as he never trained like that for a contest.  Mentzer's down fall was his drug addiction. It led to mental illness and the rest is a tragedy. In his prime he was making 200k a year which is probably the equivalent now of a million plus a year. He blew it all on nonsense. He paid a fortune on video recording equipment that was outdated that he probably didn't even know how to use to it's full potential. He also blew his money on a magazine that was distributed no where. Wonder if his judgement was clouded under drug addiction? Regardless, outside of Arnold who are  bodybuilding fans talking about? It's Mike Mentzer. He left a legacy of thinking outside the box that will influence trainers for decades.    

[The Scott]

Well given that it is a prove fact that Dickerson made homosexual porn, one could easily suppose that he blew his way to the top.  Or bottom.  It is one thing to be a homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.

Disgusting manHo.  He had no business being on that stage.  Mentzer or Zane should have been in 2nd and 3rd, but Dickerson?  He looks like a schome version of "Curious George" with those ears and his deformed banana elbows. 

He sold himself on film.  Disgusting.

[Vince B]

To this day I think Mentzer influenced my training more than any other bodybuilder. I was on from the beginning. I saved every single article he wrote and every article someone else wrote about him. I might have the most complete Mike Mentzer info out there. I'm sure when I die it will be thrown in the trash.  I would say when I was 24 it was my best condition ever in my life time. I patterned my training after Mentzer who patterned his  training after Mr. Florida Frank Calta. The training he recommended after he retired rang untrue as he never trained like that for a contest.  Mentzer's down fall was his drug addiction. It led to mental illness and the rest is a tragedy. In his prime he was making 200k a year which is probably the equivalent now of a million plus a year. He blew it all on nonsense. He paid a fortune on video recording equipment that was outdated that he probably didn't even know how to use to it's full potential. He also blew his money on a magazine that was distributed no where. Wonder if his judgement was clouded under drug addiction? Regardless, outside of Arnold who are  bodybuilding fans talking about? It's Mike Mentzer. He left a legacy of thinking outside the box that will influence trainers for decades.    

Both Mike and Arthur Jones left a mark in bodybuilding. Especially in the theory department. Jones tried to figure out hypertrophy through logic and common sense. He derided the exercise scientists and claimed they

knew nothing.

Arthur built Nautilus equipment and that line made him a fortune. He became his own marketer and wrote long infomercials that we always read. He coined new ideas and invented many machines. Unfortunately his theory about

hypertrophy is mistaken. Intensity alone will not generate much in the way of maximum muscle size. Muscles don't contract like box cars on a train but slide across filaments. If you get the physiology and anatomy wrong your theory is

unlikely to be true. We were all impressed with HIT. Most of the big guys tried it. However, few embraced it and the vast majority of bodybuilders do volume training. If you combine a level of intensity above a certain threshold with

sufficient volume you will grow...well, providing you have sufficient nutrition and I don't mean protein. Calories in abundance is required. We don't need that much extra protein over other athletes.

Mike found a way to challenge people with new ideas so people would buy his courses and editors would buy his articles. Mike altered HIT and called it Heavy Duty. Did his brother, Ray, train like that? Well sort of. Ray lived at our

place in Sydney for over a year back in the late 80's. He would train a muscle twice a week. Once directly and once indirectly. Not many sets but lots of intensity. If a system is effective but leads to injuries it can't be the right method

for hypertrophy because those injuries will prevent you from getting really big. HIT programs work for a while but once you get super strong you are going to tear muscles and connective tissue and goodbye career.

Dorian and Ronnie both trained heavy and both destroyed their bodies. Hypertrophy doesn't require super heavy weights and the highest intensity. Mentzer knew this because he read Hans Selye's book on Stress. Sufficient intensity

coupled with adequate volume is the formula. Neither without the other will generate maximum hypertrophy.

What confuses most trainees is that they try so many things that they literally don't know what is causing the growth. That is because most hypertrophy happens so slowly it isn't detectable. If you know how to make muscles grow

they respond instantly and you can measure the difference each week.

[Vince B]

Well given that it is a prove fact that Dickerson made homosexual porn, one could easily suppose that he blew his way to the top.  Or bottom.  It is one thing to be a homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.

Disgusting manHo.  He had no business being on that stage.  Mentzer or Zane should have been in 2nd and 3rd, but Dickerson?  He looks like a schome version of "Curious George" with those ears and his deformed banana elbows. 

He sold himself on film.  Disgusting.

We have a moderator here who is gay so I don't endorse putting someone down because of his sexual preferences. Suggesting that the judges are all gay is pure speculation.

If you go back to pro contests in the year before the 80 Olympia you will discover that Dickerson won the majority of them. I can tell you he delighted the audience in Sydney when

he posed. He did an exceptional presentation and carried himself with class and dignity throughout the event. Many bodybuilders in Australia favoured Chris. An organization we

started after that contest decided to send a huge trophy to Chris as the real Mr Olympia 1980. John Doyle took the trophy over and presented it to Chris. According to Randy Roach

Chris is proud to have received that trophy.

[The Scott]

We have a moderator here who is gay so I don't endorse putting someone down because of his sexual preferences. Suggesting that the judges are all gay is pure speculation.

If you go back to pro contests in the year before the 80 Olympia you will discover that Dickerson won the majority of them. I can tell you he delighted the audience in Sydney when

he posed. He did an exceptional presentation and carried himself with class and dignity throughout the event. Many bodybuilders in Australia favoured Chris. An organization we

started after that contest decided to send a huge trophy to Chris as the real Mr Olympia 1980. John Doyle took the trophy over and presented it to Chris. According to Randy Roach

Chris is proud to have received that trophy.

Since you must have somehow missed it...It is one thing to be homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.  Dickerson was a slut for hire and sans that, still did not deserve to win unless they changed the title to Mr. SchmOelympia. 

Or Mr. HOelympia.

Get it?  Got it?  Good!

[Vince B]

Since you must have somehow missed it...It is one thing to be homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.  Dickerson was a slut for hire and sans that, still did not deserve to win unless they changed the title to Mr. SchmOelympia. 

Or Mr. HOelympia.

Get it?  Got it?  Good!

I could care less what homosexuals do. Got that? People, fruit, makes no difference to me.

The Scott is the one with issues here. Why does gay for pay bother him so much?

No homo.

[The Scott]

I could care less what homosexuals do. Got that? People, fruit, makes no difference to me.

The Scott is the one with issues here. Why does gay for pay bother him so much?

No homo.

Because selling oneself is repulsive and the mark of a lazy person. Bodybuilding is turgid with laziness and schmoes and their hoes are disgusting.  You read as though you approve of such behavior and if so, it can only be due to personal preferences that individuals lacking a moral compass eagerly broadcast to the world these days.  FTN. 

Perhaps you should return to the depths from which you recently oozed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Tarantula157]

Photo I took of Arnold. Shows why he won the contest.

Arnold Vs. Mike in the twisted BDB.

[Tarantula157]

Dickerson looked small next to Arnold and his chest and arms sucked,should've been very happy with the 2nd place.

[Tarantula157]

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[pellius]

Well given that it is a prove fact that Dickerson made homosexual porn, one could easily suppose that he blew his way to the top.  Or bottom.  It is one thing to be a homosexual and another to be a slut for hire.

Disgusting manHo.  He had no business being on that stage.  Mentzer or Zane should have been in 2nd and 3rd, but Dickerson?  He looks like a schome version of "Curious George" with those ears and his deformed banana elbows. 

He sold himself on film.  Disgusting.

I am no fan of Dickerson and never should have won the O but how do you know that he had sex with the judges for higher placings? Doesn't this implicate the judges more the Chris?

[Tarantula157]

Arnold dominating the line up from the front.

And not only from the front