Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ

[The Scott]

Arnold 1st and either Mentzer or Zane 2nd/3rd.   Dickerson the porn dog should not even have been on stage except at Jimmy Zs. 

Mentzer was great and had much to contribute but failed to come back with a vengeance.  Instead he decided to hide away like so many little guys.  He should, you know...show them. Show them the whole thing.

Arnold was still too much for any one that day, but if Mentzer had taken the Oak's attitude when he lost to Zane in the 60s, he would have walked all over every one (especially Franco) in '81.

[Eric2]

Arnold 1st and either Mentzer or Zane 2nd/3rd.   Dickerson the porn dog should not even have been on stage except at Jimmy Zs.  

Mentzer was great and had much to contribute but failed to come back with a vengeance.  Instead he decided to hide away like so many little guys.  He should, you know...show them. Show them the whole thing.

Arnold was still too much for any one that day, but if Mentzer had taken the Oak's attitude when he lost to Zane in the 60s, he would have walked all over every one (especially Franco) in '81.

Agreed. Mike could have been so much more,as a competitor. Problem also lied with the Weiders, Mike was not their chosen one. I think all things happen for a reason, Mike became obsessed over this unfortunately. Yet he created a whole new sector of people looking to train in a different manner. He created a movement against the Weider doctrine.

[Natural_O]

Arnold 1st and either Mentzer or Zane 2nd/3rd.   Dickerson the porn dog should not even have been on stage except at Jimmy Zs. 

Mentzer was great and had much to contribute but failed to come back with a vengeance.  Instead he decided to hide away like so many little guys.  He should, you know...show them. Show them the whole thing.

Arnold was still too much for any one that day, but if Mentzer had taken the Oak's attitude when he lost to Zane in the 60s, he would have walked all over every one (especially Franco) in '81.

No one was going to beat Franco in '81, no one.

[oldtimer1]

Arnold 1st and either Mentzer or Zane 2nd/3rd.   Dickerson the porn dog should not even have been on stage except at Jimmy Zs. 

Mentzer was great and had much to contribute but failed to come back with a vengeance.  Instead he decided to hide away like so many little guys.  He should, you know...show them. Show them the whole thing.

Arnold was still too much for any one that day, but if Mentzer had taken the Oak's attitude when he lost to Zane in the 60s, he would have walked all over every one (especially Franco) in '81.

Any truth to what I heard about Mike Mentzer? I heard he was an addicted drug addict who became mentally ill from it.

Mentzer was a great bodybuilder by he was beaten bad by Kalman in the Universe. He looked smaller and less ripped in comparison. All anyone can say negative about Kalman is that his calves weren't as good as Mentzer. I would counter that everything else was better from back, chest, delts and arms. 

Mentzer also lost the Universe to Robby.  Again Robby looked in ripped condition and Mentzer didn't.  Some again will say Mentzer had calves and Robby didn't.

I liked Mentzer back in the day. He has been a huge influence on my training.  I used to buy anything he wrote in the magazines. I would rip the article out and put it in a binder. I wonder if anyone has the amount of Mentzer articles that I have? It's just that many HIT guys won't accept that he wasn't always the best in contests and volume guys beat him. 

[Tarantula157]

No one was going to beat Franco in '81, no one.

Even Arnold?

[Pet shop boys]

 

[Dokey111]

^ no delts on Arnold 

[hench]

Arnold's delts and shoulder region were great this year, thats just one pic. His delts could easily contain walkers and mentzers.


   

^ no delts on Arnold 

[Pet shop boys]

  wosh

[BSN]

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[oldschoolfan]

mentzer stated in one of his books that him and joe got along great, remember joe was paying him 150k a year in the early 80's that was huge money, he stated ben weider was the one who hated him.


mentzer to me was the best thinking bodybuilder out there, you could read one of his articles and it got you thinking. he was very smart, and yet he did let himself go .

he got hooked on amphetamines.   but as a writer/bodybuilder, he was great.  him and arnold will always be my top 2 favorites.   

[BSN]

Arnold vs Mike  

[oldschoolfan]

awesome pic of mike

[nukkaready]

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[Nether Animal]

Bottom line Mentzer overdieted to the point that he lost a lot of his trademark thickness. His chest was flat as a pancake.

[ARNIE1947]

 

[ARNIE1947]

 

[Thespritz0]

Bottom line Mentzer overdieted to the point that he lost a lot of his trademark thickness. His chest was flat as a pancake.

^^
That was Joe Weider's fault, he said he needed more shredded serratus and obliques...
This was the ONE thing he told me about when I got to meet him back when he was personal training in early 1990's.

[BSN]

At least still talk even now about the contest. If Arnold would not have been there, now the discussions were about "how to beat Dickerson on Mentzer"?

[hipolito mejia]

At least still talk even now about the contest. If Arnold would not have been there, now the discussions were about "how to beat Dickerson on Mentzer"?

Dickerson won in 82'. And no one even mentions it. Let alone make a thread about it.

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[jollygiant]

Bottom line Mentzer overdieted to the point that he lost a lot of his trademark thickness. His chest was flat as a pancake.

Rubbish. nothing to do with diet.

[ratherbebig]

mentzer looks narrow

[Thespritz0]

Rubbish. nothing to do with diet.

^^
Whatever is your "weakest" bodypart you will loose that if dieting hard/drying out right before a show...

[The Scott]

^^
Whatever is your "weakest" bodypart you will loose that if dieting hard/drying out right before a show...

Dammit!  My whole body wimps up when I diet down!