Author Topic: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ  (Read 589320 times)

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2013, 02:33:10 PM »

That's not a Weider product.  Its a protein mix that's made in Germany made my AminoVit.  The stuff is actually still made and sold exclusively in Europe.  Arnold was able to get a deal with AminoVit because Weider products at the time were only available in Canada and U.S.  Not a bad way to make some extra cash




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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2013, 02:52:51 PM »
LOL!! And what the fuck would you know about what he did to get lean? You're a 400lb cave troll who's specialized subject is paying she-beasts to poop on you in motel rooms.


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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #52 on: June 05, 2013, 02:57:38 PM »
pic of arnold with moon face?

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2013, 08:43:39 PM »
Arnold's secret, train 8-10 hours a day and get enemas regular, helped him get ripped. Other than that, beer on off days, pussy after post training nap...your welcome.

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2013, 09:07:49 PM »
In 1980, After 5 years break he came back leaner than ever ,  what drugs you think  he was on ? 


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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2013, 11:12:13 PM »
 
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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2013, 01:36:39 AM »
Yes the "taking dbol like tic tac M&M" story is more like an urban legend among old school BBers also the one that he was passing them pills around back stage (for free) while in Europe etc .... but truth is that when he lost to Zane (50lbs lighter than him) in Florida he knew he had to get lean and ripped to be the best in America, he tried everything available! but even at that age (21) he couldn't get as ripped, vascular dry although he won the Mr.O from 1970 on.... I would say the drastic dry look he finally accomplished in 1980 was more the result of the fish,egg water and heavy deca use.....  


and Starvation .....  motivated by a great urge to teach Mentzer and Zane a lesson .


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Pretty sure he took a good amount of dbol especially when he was young. dianabol was the most popular drug. to say he didn't take alot of dbol is incorrect! he popped alot of dbol but back then dbol was cleaner and might not of made one bloat like the underground lab dbol going around today or the dbol that is misslabled and is really methyl-testosterone,none of this shit went on back then. You could buy high quality dbol like you could buy a can of pepsi. It very well could be possible the more he cycled the more he realized dbol produced some water retention and he might of altered his cycles but to say Arnold did not take a shit load of dbol is false. he ate dbol pills for breakfast lunch and dinner but of course with a meal.

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2013, 01:51:48 AM »
It does not matter if you don't have the genes then lights out. How many people have tried? I have clue just saying take all the drugs you want most will never be be Mr O. Close but no Cigar.

Being mr O doesn't mean u have the best genetics in this era look at cutler for example, is he better than flex, Chris, victor , dex in terms of genes? Nope

U got branch winning Arnold classics now , enough said  :D

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2013, 01:58:04 AM »
Being mr O doesn't mean u have the best genetics in this era look at cutler for example, is he better than flex, Chris, victor , dex in terms of genes? Nope

U got branch winning Arnold classics now , enough said  :D
genetics in terms of shape, yes you are right but genetics are a number of things like;

Your genetics response to the hormones- aas, gh, slin etc

Your genetics on how lean your body can get like Andreas Munzer, everyone can get to 4 but it takes genetics to go below this.

Your genetic shape

and your genetic structure

Jay has the structure and the response on his side

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2013, 02:05:04 AM »
genetics in terms of shape, yes you are right but genetics are a number of things like;

Your genetics response to the hormones- aas, gh, slin etc

Your genetics on how lean your body can get like Andreas Munzer, everyone can get to 4 but it takes genetics to go below this.

Your genetic shape

and your genetic structure

Jay has the structure and the response on his side

I agree but u think jay has good structure? Still think Vic is much better , a number of guys I named is much better than jay including levrone who was the king of response .

Jay in 2001 and 09 is amazing though but shape , structure I think loses to those guys but the ability to pack on mass on a 5'8 frame he beats a lot of the others esp flex

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2013, 02:09:36 AM »
I agree but u think jay has good structure? Still think Vic is much better , a number of guys I named is much better than jay including levrone who was the king of response .

Jay in 2001 and 09 is amazing though but shape , structure I think loses to those guys but the ability to pack on mass on a 5'8 frame he beats a lot of the others esp flex
Victor has tremendous shape and Jay has nothing on him but Jay has one of the best structures in the biz and even better then Ronnie. He is wide as fuck and hips are still relatively small. Small ankles, elbows and risks, for sure Jay beats the ones who you mentioned in structure, remember structure does not mean shape

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2013, 02:16:35 AM »
Victor has tremendous shape and Jay has nothing on him but Jay has one of the best structures in the biz and even better then Ronnie. He is wide as fuck and hips are still relatively small. Small ankles, elbows and risks, for sure Jay beats the ones who you mentioned in structure, remember structure does not mean shape

Still think Cormier had one of the best structure even better than Jay , Chris was more complete than flex and even the later years of levrone. But I see what u mean about jay :D

Regarding Arnold did he ever have a drug guru like all of these guys now?? Who was in charge of prepping Arnold for shows??

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2013, 03:50:12 AM »
Still think Cormier had one of the best structure even better than Jay , Chris was more complete than flex and even the later years of levrone. But I see what u mean about jay :D

Regarding Arnold did he ever have a drug guru like all of these guys now?? Who was in charge of prepping Arnold for shows??
Structure is not known until guys come off the gear, then you can tell. For example Ronnie, man he has a horrible structure and Levrone too, he shrinks to nothing, he is a 185 lb twig, Cormier not so much but still is under 200lb off gear and , Jay on the other hand would still be big, his structure would not allow him to ever be under 200lb.

As for Arnold not having a guru, Arnold was the guru himself, he had everything money can buy and he studied everything and lived the sport fanatically.


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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2013, 01:01:43 PM »
This.

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2013, 02:56:33 PM »
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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2013, 03:06:32 PM »
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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2013, 03:27:54 PM »
Back then most androgens (test, etc) were kept low (during contest prep), anabolics were fairly high. Diets were high protein, fairly high fats and little carbs. Ever wonder how these guys were so ripped back then as compared to now?

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2013, 03:50:24 PM »
Arnold was always hungry while dieting.

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2013, 06:46:17 PM »
Some of you guys are fucking clueless!  Arnold took whatever existed back then.  And EVERYTHING was available anywhere in any amount.  Everyone knew Arnold had to take twice what Sergio was taking just to compete with him.  Arnold was great but Sergio was one of the most gifted  bodybuilders to ever step on stage. 

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2013, 07:26:36 PM »
Back then most androgens (test, etc) were kept low (during contest prep), anabolics were fairly high. Diets were high protein, fairly high fats and little carbs. Ever wonder how these guys were so ripped back then as compared to now?

This could be it. Now all this crap is just counterfeit labeled high androgen testosterone and everyone thinks they are getting anabolic steroids. I would bet money just about no one can get true Dianabol, Androl 50, Winstrol, Anavar or Deca like these guys took. All of this crap being sold from the trunk of the local gym drug dealer is just crap testosterone variations sold and counterfeit labeled like it's legit. Wouldn't doubt if the material used to make it or the whole package is coming out of China.

One thing almost everyone is missing is that he trained for a contest splitting his body in half training with volume. That in itself burns the fat off. Everyone who has ever seen him in a gym said he trained like an animal. 

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2013, 07:28:32 PM »
weed and lots lots of pussy


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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #72 on: July 07, 2013, 08:04:46 PM »
Good thread! Arnold was epic lean here. And skinny. And mr O.
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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2013, 08:10:59 PM »
you can say arnold did it both ways, he was the biggest at his peak, then he took it to the zane level and beat those guys at their own game, so its never been done by any mr. olympia except arnold, to be the biggest, and then to be leaner and the most cut, and win the olympia both ways, thats why he is the best ever, or #1 all time!

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Re: What drugs was Arnold on to be this lean ?
« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2013, 08:14:05 PM »
True. He did swing both ways  ;D
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