i know a guy who steps on stage at 280lbs.
he takes about a gramm tren, 8ius gh and 50mg anavar daily.
precontest.
offseason its 1g test, 1g eq, and the gh, bit slin.
thats that.
to disregard genetics of the very top bbuilders is naive.
look at the mongoloids from seroidology forum who are on 3-5gramms weekly they all lok worse than me, does that mean im on more than them