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and if so, does it help your progress?

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 12:43:39 AM »
most getbiggers never train heavy so .................



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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 12:45:06 AM »
For what just to waste time?

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 12:56:00 AM »
No.
I do like to follow heavy weight excercises with a lighter excercise with higher reps and short rest.

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2013, 01:01:49 AM »
For what just to waste time?

well man, most "athletes" have obsessive-complusive issues (look at L. Bird who used to shoot hoop til his hands bled) so i guess as a way to "curb the desire" since you can't train heavy 7 days a week

also, they followed this methods lots of times in the 70s and 80s

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 01:05:07 AM »
and if so, does it help your progress?

yes, like bodyweights days only, military way of training  ;)

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2013, 03:08:34 AM »
I always do higher than average reps 12-30s
So I would say I dont use weights that are 'heavy' for me.

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2013, 03:12:29 AM »
I always do higher than average reps 12-30s
So I would say I dont use weights that are 'heavy' for me.

so you never train heavy ???

btw "heavy" means pushing a weight that is a max or near max weight in whatever rep scheme that you choose

so if your 12 rep max squat is 300 pounds for 12 reps til failure then training the squat with 275-300 for 12 reps is "heavy"

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2013, 03:17:15 AM »
Yes I usually de-load or might take a week off every 10-12 weeks or so.

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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2013, 03:17:20 AM »
I train to failure , but failure can come anywhere between 12-30 reps
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btw "heavy" means pushing a weight that is a max or near max weight in whatever rep scheme that you choose
Maybe you should have wrote that in the OP then people know what you're talking about.

Oh and squatting to failure is just asking for a serious injury to your lower back.

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2013, 03:22:13 AM »
I train to failure , but failure can come anywhere between 12-30 repsMaybe you should have wrote that in the OP then people know what you're talking about.

Oh and squatting to failure is just asking for a serious injury to your lower back.

good point about the squatting

i just started doing the barbell squat and once my form starts to break down i end the set

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2013, 03:24:50 AM »
If you actually squat to failure you would end up on the floor with the bar on top of you or some guy heaving you up to put the bar back on the rack.
Idiotic to say the least.

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2013, 03:36:45 AM »
or you could squat in a squat rack


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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2013, 04:08:13 AM »
I never squat

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2013, 04:15:23 AM »
or you could squat in a squat rack



This is what I use.
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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2013, 04:19:17 AM »
or you could squat in a squat rack



Do you finish your working sets by leaving the bar on the low bars and crawl out from under it?

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2013, 04:34:18 AM »
This is what I use.

i'm curious, what's your squat at right now? weight and reps?

also what technique do you use?

i put my feet out pretty wide, but i put the bar high and i keep my torso upright

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2013, 04:51:09 AM »
My squat technique is olympic lifter squats. High trap placement with medium stance and sink it low basically fairly upright. Limits the amount you can do compared to a low bar placement wide stance hip lock type power lifting squat but it trains the thighs better.


Regarding light days there are so many variables. Would you consider a guy that does 5 sets of 12 with x amount of weight training moderately if his sets went like this?  First set of 12 he stops at 12 but could have gotten 16reps. Second he stops at 12 but could have gotten 14. Third set gets 12 but could have gotten 13 reps. Forth set he fails at 12 reps. Fifth he fails at 9 trying to get 12.

I have never truly trained moderately. I always train hard but I think that could be a mistake. In the world of running most elite have moderate days where they don't push them self. It really recharges the batteries so to speak when they go back to hammer time.

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2013, 05:28:02 AM »
What is this training "light" that you speak of?

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2013, 05:36:01 AM »
I never squat
Not according to craigslist.

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2013, 08:26:40 AM »
Regarding light days there are so many variables. Would you consider a guy that does 5 sets of 12 with x amount of weight training moderately if his sets went like this?  First set of 12 he stops at 12 but could have gotten 16reps. Second he stops at 12 but could have gotten 14. Third set gets 12 but could have gotten 13 reps. Forth set he fails at 12 reps. Fifth he fails at 9 trying to get 12.

that's a heavy session coz you are hitting failure

a light session would be something like training with 60-70% of your normal "heavy" training weight and never coming close to failure in any of your sets

What is this training "light" that you speak of?

see above

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2013, 09:04:27 AM »
when doing your regular training it should consist of every facet of training, heay weight, light weight, moderate weight, regular sets. super sets, and giant sets, this is the mistake many make by not incorporating all of this into one workout, instead of just going light one day, heavy one day, and moderate one day, you should do it all in your everyday workouts.

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2013, 09:15:32 AM »
so if a person works out and they go light only and thats how they train, then you have a person who trains heavy most of the time, then you have a person who trains light, moderate, and heavy in their workouts, the light trainer wont have the strength to keep up with the guy who is lifting heavy, but the heavy trainer wont have the endurance and stamina to keep up with the light training guy, but the guy who trains light, moderate, and heavy everyday, will have the stamina to smoke the light training guy and the strength to smoke the heavy lifting guy, and he will have the stamina and endurance the heavy doesnt have, and will have the strength that the light trainer doesnt, but can still outrep and outstrenghth both, so this is why you should train, light, moderate, and heavy, with superset, regular sets, and giant sets, in your everyday workout.

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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2013, 09:16:45 AM »
so if a person works out and they go light only and thats how they train, then you have a person who trains heavy most of the time, then you have a person who trains light, moderate, and heavy in their workouts, the light trainer wont have the strength to keep up with the guy who is lifting heavy, but the heavy trainer wont have the endurance and stamina to keep up with the light training guy, but the guy who trains light, moderate, and heavy everyday, will have the stamina to smoke the light training guy and the strength to smoke the heavy lifting guy, and he will have the stamina and endurance the heavy doesnt have, and will have the strength that the light trainer doesnt, but can still outrep and outstrenghth both, so this is why you should train, light, moderate, and heavy, with superset, regular sets, and giant sets, in your everyday workout.

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Re: do any of you fellas do "light" or "moderate" training sessions?
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2013, 09:48:20 AM »
uk jeff have you ever seen me in person, I guarantee you, I put any amount of money on it, if you were to come to the gym and see me in person, all the shit your talking on the internet, you wouldnt be saying one fucking word, in person, in the weight pit, GUARANTEED BROTHER!