George Zimmerman - Discussion - Guilty or Innocent?

[Straw Man]

In this thread straw man believed that because a witness was under oath that she actually is telling the truth...

..when in fact she has been caught lying twice already.

 

You can leave the thread now straw

did she lie while on the stand ?

if you're going to bring up insignificant omissions when not under oath then I assume you must have a problem with all of Zimmermans lies as well

[Shockwave]

put your personal prejudice aside

she said she heard Martin say "get off"

I know most people here would just like to ignore than and it's certainly easy to mock this person looks, accents, etc.. in an attempt to deflect from her testimony

She said she heard Martin say "get off"

that directly contradicts the claims of Zimmerman and his defense team

she was caught lyingnunder oath. Multiole times. Yet you use herbas a credible witnessm derrrrr

[Straw Man]

lying under oath. But Straw actually claimed she was more credible than zimmerman because she was under oath. Couldnt make it up.

I haven't followed everything she said so please tell me when she lied under oath on the stand

was she charged with perjury

maybe I missed that

[Straw Man]

she was caught lyingnunder oath. Multiole times. Yet you use herbas a credible witnessm derrrrr

fair enough

just said I was not aware of everything she said

tell me her lies while on the stand

[Obvious Gimmick]

That's his girlfriend? Probably committed suicide

[Shockwave]

I haven't followed everything she said so please tell me when she lied under oath on the stand

was she charged with perjury

maybe I missed that

that she wrote the letter. It came out that she c I uldnt read or write cursive.

[The True Adonis]

put your personal prejudice aside

she said she heard Martin say "get off"

I know most people here would just like to ignore than and it's certainly easy to mock this person looks, accents, etc.. in an attempt to deflect from her testimony

She said she heard Martin say "get off"

that directly contradicts the claims of Zimmerman and his defense team

hahah she made that shit up on the fly and didn`t tell anyone about that until MUCH after.  Funny how she never told any police or anyone else about what was said in the phone call early on.  Isn`t it?  


DON WEST, ZIMMERMAN'S DEFENSE LAWYER: So you made the decision, then, not to tell Mr. Crump that you'd actually heard Trayvon Martin say, get off, get off, because you were in a hurry?


RACHEL JEANTEL, TRAYVON MARTIN'S FRIEND: Yes, sir, because Crump is not a law enforcer.

WEST: So you weren't worried about telling him, first of all, the truth, or the whole story?

JEANTEL: First of all, crump is not law enforcement. He's not an officer. I knew that he was not an officer. So like I told the mother, from the beginning, if officer wants to talk to me, know the exact story, everything about what happened that night, they will reach me at my number. You got it? (END VIDEO CLIP)

[The True Adonis]

fair enough

just said I was not aware of everything she said

tell me her lies while on the stand

She made the whole thing up about hearing Ashtray say "get off" on the phone for starters.

[The True Adonis]

[Chadwick The Beta]

She made the whole thing up about hearing Ashtray say "get off" on the phone for starters.

I see what you did there.

[Straw Man]

hahah she made that shit up on the fly and didn`t tell anyone about that until MUCH after.  Funny how she never told any police or anyone else about what was said in the phone call early on.  Isn`t it?  


DON WEST, ZIMMERMAN'S DEFENSE LAWYER: So you made the decision, then, not to tell Mr. Crump that you'd actually heard Trayvon Martin say, get off, get off, because you were in a hurry?


RACHEL JEANTEL, TRAYVON MARTIN'S FRIEND: Yes, sir, because Crump is not a law enforcer.

WEST: So you weren't worried about telling him, first of all, the truth, or the whole story?

JEANTEL: First of all, crump is not law enforcement. He's not an officer. I knew that he was not an officer. So like I told the mother, from the beginning, if officer wants to talk to me, know the exact story, everything about what happened that night, they will reach me at my number. You got it? (END VIDEO CLIP)

thanks for showing that she didn't lie under oath while on the stand

did the judge tell the jury to ignore the "get off" statement by Jeantel

if she were proven to be lying on the stand that's what she would have done

was she charged with perjury

 

[The True Adonis]

thanks for showing that she didn't lie under oath while on the stand

did the judge tell the jury to ignore the "get off" statement by Jeantel

if she were proven to be lying on the stand that's what she would have done

was she charged with perjury

 

[Shockwave]

thanks for showing that she didn't lie under oath while on the stand

did the judge tell the jury to ignore the "get off" statement by Jeantel

if she were proven to be lying on the stand that's what she would have done

was she charged with perjury

 

they asked her, over ajd over, to read a letter she claimed sje wrote. Sje could not, eventually admitting that she didnt write it and couldnt read cursive. So unless claiming to write a letter she didnt write isnt lying, ypure full of crap.

[Straw Man]

That's his girlfriend? Probably committed suicide

I think they were just friends

she got a lot of shit from people (just like almost everyone on this board)

here is what she said about this horrible scary thug Martin

She said "he was one of the few guys that never made fun of me, about the way I dressed, about the way I talked, about my hair, about my complexion, you know, about my weight."

[Archer77]

Manatee-l has as much motivation to lie as Zimmerman does.  If you apply the same scrutiny as has been applied to Zimmerman it would be easy to dismiss everything she said.  

[Straw Man]

so the judge just let her lie and didn't charge her with perjury and didn't tell the jury to ignore her statement ?

[Coach is Back!]

Murder, try and keep up coach

Murder or self defense? Try to keep up, nails.

[Archer77]

I think they were just friends

she got a lot of shit from people (just like almost everyone on this board)

here is what she said about this horrible scary thug Martin

She said "he was one of the few guys that never made fun of me, about the way I dressed, about the way I talked, about my hair, about my complexion, you know, about my weight."

That says nothing about him or the motivations behind his actions towards her.  Many men are nice to women for the express purpose of getting laid.

[Shockwave]

so the judge just let her lie and didn't charge her with perjury and didn't tell the jury to ignore her statement ?

maybe the judge felt that the embarrassment of admitting to a courtroom full of people that she is illiterate is enough punishment?

[Coach is Back!]

i have to ask...

why is INFOWARs, the leading 911 truther site, talking about obama involvement in trayvon case -

But FOX NEWS IS NOT?    Wtf gives?   Do yall suddenly declare infowars/prisonplanet to be credible?   Cause, um... lol

Obama got involved the second he opened his big racist mouth at the beginning of this thing. "If I had a son, he would look just like Trayvon" or did you forget?

Something's are just commonsense. This is one of them.

[Archer77]

so the judge just let her lie and didn't charge her with perjury and didn't tell the jury to ignore her statement ?

Judges dont always go after people who committ perjury particularly when there is nothing to gain from doing so.

[Shockwave]

Judges dont always go after people who committ perjury particularly when there is nothing to gain from doing so.

especially when theyre fat, illiterate, and probably have little to no hope of building a decent life for themselves.
Life is going to punish her enough, lol.

[Straw Man]

That says nothing about him or the motivations behind his actions towards her.  Many men are nice to women for the express purpose of getting laid.

you think he wanted to get with her  

really

men can't actually be kind without an ulterior motive ?

[Straw Man]

maybe the judge felt that the embarrassment of admitting to a courtroom full of people that she is illiterate is enough punishment?

just because she didn't write it doesn't mean she didn't dictate it and in fact that can be construed in some context as writing the letter

that and not going to his wake are hardly material to the facts of the case

[Archer77]

you think he wanted to get with her  

really

men can't actually be kind without an ulterior motive ?

They can be but we can't presuppose he was.