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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #725 on: July 11, 2013, 10:47:46 AM »
I think she was actually kept alive for a day or two and tortured. I tried not to listen to all the details because it was just too much to hear about someone you knew. But from what I remember, she ultimately died a slow death from suffocating in a trash bag.

Utterly despicable excuses for human beings.
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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #726 on: July 11, 2013, 10:54:40 AM »
You are talking about a 17 yr old...and how was he supposed to know that Zimmerman had a gun?
Maybe Zimmerman thought that having that gun gave him his "Sheriff's Badge" of courage aka balls.
Imagine how the scenario would have played out, if he didn't have the gun?
Zimmerman would have had his ass handed to him, and then he would have called the police. The. The police would find Trayvon, find out he is 17, laugh at Zimmerman and tell him that since Trayvon is a minor, he cannot be charged as an adult, and it must be taken to juvenile court. All the while he has to deal with shame of having been beat up by a 17 yr old.

That's the point, you don't assault people and threaten their life.  It's a good thing CCW exists,  as a defense against violent people like Trayvon Martin.

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #727 on: July 11, 2013, 10:59:01 AM »
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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #728 on: July 11, 2013, 11:00:10 AM »
Let's be honest, if the roles were reversed this entire event would have been swept under the rug. But the race mongers threw a giant media fit and made this much more than it really is.
Agendas chaos, agendas...
Meanwhile, we talk about this, and whatever is going on in pop culture (reality TV, Kim/Kanye), and it keeps us occupied, and out minds off of the politicians...

Remember how the Romans kept the uncouth rabble occupied? Through gladiator games....and soon ours will start back up (NFL).

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #729 on: July 11, 2013, 11:00:45 AM »
"cutting through yards" is what kids do..they take shortcuts....you've never cut through someone's yard???...or cut through the grass even though it says "keep off the grass"?

did he deserve to die for that?

I've pretty much behaved as an adult since I was 15 or 16 like any decent person. I didn't cut through yards as a grown man (17 years old), I certainly never attacked anyone and trust me, I've had the opportunity.  


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« Reply #730 on: July 11, 2013, 11:05:19 AM »
Closing arguments. This Prosecutor is so bad.

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #731 on: July 11, 2013, 11:05:44 AM »
What a tragic fate. I can't imagine how horrific their last moments of life were.

Imagine this :


Melissa McLaughlan, 25, was a native of Wixom, Michigan, living with her fiancé’s family in North Charleston, South Carolina. On the night she died, she had an argument with her fiancé at a nightclub. She stormed out of the club and began to walk home. Police spotted her, obviously drunk, and gave her a ride home, but she quickly set out on foot for another club. Three black men, Matthew Mack, Matthew Williams, and Joseph Gardner pulled up alongside in a car and started a conversation. They offered her drugs if she would come back to their trailer and have sex with them. Melissa McLaughlan, who had a history of drug problems, foolishly accepted their offer. The men had spent most of the day drinking and watching pornographic videos of black men having sex with white women. At one point Mack exploded in anger at his white girlfriend, saying he wanted to “stab her,” but that “it ain’t got to be her, any white” would do. Williams said he wanted to have sex with a white woman. Two hours later, the group watched a television news account of the biggest stories of 1992. When the videotaped beating and arrest of Rodney King came on the air, the third man, Gardner, spoke of “four hundred years of oppression,” and made a “New Year’s resolution” to “kill a white bitch.” It was in this state of mind that the four returned to the trailer where the three blacks lived. The men offered Melissa McLaughlan no drugs, but she willingly had sex with them—at first. She began to resist, especially when the men wanted to sodomize her, and soon the men were raping her. They put out the word within the trailer park that they had “captured a white woman,” and three other blacks arrived and raped her. Two black women, girlfriends of some of the rapists, were present in another room of the trailer, but did nothing to stop the attack. After they had enough, the men decided to get rid of the evidence—including Melissa McLaughlan. They soaked her in bleach and hydrogen peroxide, and scrubbed her under the shower with a nylon brush, in the hope of ridding her skin of sperm or other evidence that could be linked to them. They forced her to scrub out her vagina with the same chemicals. They also talked openly of killing her. The men handcuffed her, blindfolded her, and put a heavy coat over her head. They then took her to a car, and forced her down onto the floorboards in the back. After they had driven for some time, she managed to get out of the handcuffs and began to struggle. Joseph Gardner, who was sitting in the front passenger seat, reached over the seat, held back her head, and shot her twice in the face. The driver pulled over 14 miles outside Charleston, where Gardner shot her three more times in the face and once in the arm. The men dumped her on the side of the road, drove back to Charleston, and went nightclubbing. A passing driver found Melissa McLaughlan, miraculously alive, but she died before the ambulance arrived. It took police four days to identify the body, and a day later they located the trailer where Melissa McLaughlan was raped. By January 9, 1993, police had arrested seven people including two of the ringleaders—Matthew Mack and Matthew Williams—and two women, Edna Williams and Indira Simmons, who were charged with being accessories to murder and sexual assault. Three of the rapists were sailors stationed at nearby Charleston Naval Base. The only suspect not in custody was the triggerman, Joseph Gardner, who had carried out his New Year’s resolution. Gardner, who was AWOL from the Navy, eluded police for nearly two years, and might never have been caught had the FBI not put him on the “ten most wanted” list. He was living in Philadelphia when someone saw his picture in the post office and tipped off the police. He was arrested on October 20, 1994, and is now on death row. Police suspected a racial motivation from the start, since they found a “crudely written racial diatribe” in the trailer, complete with racial epithets about white oppression, which claimed blacks were “justified in seeking revenge.”

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #732 on: July 11, 2013, 11:09:44 AM »
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Joseph Gardner, who was sitting in the front passenger seat, reached over the seat, held back her head, and shot her twice in the face. The driver pulled over 14 miles outside Charleston, where Gardner shot her three more times in the face and once in the arm.
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Re: Zimmerman / Trayvon Trial - Discussion
« Reply #733 on: July 11, 2013, 11:10:54 AM »
this prosecutor is calling out zimmerman for all the exaggeration.  I've been saying this will be zimmerman's downfall - the fact he just kept adding 10% to every single detail.

AND the fact that he greatly exaggerated the fight - "youre going to die tonight" and "he was smothering me" and "I was punched several dozen times" and "he went for my gun".

Zimmerman studied the law very well and knew what to say - but the evidence and recordings show these 4 things to be lies. 

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #734 on: July 11, 2013, 11:11:49 AM »
Pretty gruesome stuff.  Never heard a single word about it, lurker. 
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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #735 on: July 11, 2013, 11:18:36 AM »
Other than the fact that blacks were robbing houses left and right in this nabe, Ashtray was 6ft tall, gold teeth, loitering about, had drugs in his system, was on suspension from school for fighting, had a gun himself he posed with etc.

He was not Erkle or Vince Goodrum


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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #736 on: July 11, 2013, 11:19:28 AM »
Pretty gruesome stuff.  Never heard a single word about it, lurker. 
Well, it's been posted like 4-5 times here on the G&O...probably more.
Gruesome, terrible, insane. And the defendants got what they deserved...aside from being torn apart by a pack of hyenas.

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #737 on: July 11, 2013, 11:20:40 AM »
Well, it's been posted like 4-5 times here on the G&O...probably more.
Gruesome, terrible, insane. And the defendants got what they deserved...aside from being torn apart by a pack of hyenas.

I'd heard about the young couple not the intoxicated chick.
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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #738 on: July 11, 2013, 11:22:39 AM »
I have weed in my system right now.  I think the big mistake is jumping to conclusions about the motivations and thoughts of either of the two.  People may consider me bias but I try not to comment on the personalities of the two individuals. Based on the law, the only  penalty that seems remotely plausible is negligent homicide.  I've said this many times here.

For some reason I thought you were a cop?

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #739 on: July 11, 2013, 11:24:48 AM »
I'd heard about the young couple not the intoxicated chick.
my bad...

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #740 on: July 11, 2013, 11:25:40 AM »
For some reason I thought you were a cop?

I'm a rogue black weed smoking cop.  No cop.
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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #741 on: July 11, 2013, 11:25:45 AM »
this case will affect self-defense and gun laws for the next 10 years in the USA, and it happened in the middle of the national gun debate last year.

So yes, people took sides fast, fell in love or hate with the characters.  And yes, people love a national trial every year.  last year it was casey anthony.

and the gruesome nature of those murders means fox and msn can't talk about it a lot.
Remember - events have to be somewhat sanitized to make the cut.  If casey anthony chopped up her baby in a blender, it'd neever be a national case - too gory.

Some people never learn how the media works.  A case that has it all emerges every year.

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #742 on: July 11, 2013, 11:30:50 AM »
I went to high school and college with Channon Christian (the girl in that photo)


Damn, such a sad case.

Not out of the ordinary.

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« Reply #743 on: July 11, 2013, 11:36:05 AM »
I'm a rogue black weed smoking cop.  No cop.

keep up the good work brother!

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Re: Zimmerman / Trayvon Trial - Discussion
« Reply #744 on: July 11, 2013, 12:01:52 PM »
this prosecutor is calling out zimmerman for all the exaggeration.  I've been saying this will be zimmerman's downfall - the fact he just kept adding 10% to every single detail.

AND the fact that he greatly exaggerated the fight - "youre going to die tonight" and "he was smothering me" and "I was punched several dozen times" and "he went for my gun".

Zimmerman studied the law very well and knew what to say - but the evidence and recordings show these 4 things to be lies. 
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Re: Zimmerman / Trayvon Trial - Discussion
« Reply #745 on: July 11, 2013, 12:05:51 PM »
::)

We can only be lucky if a family of Raccoons eats you and a Skunk sprays your corpse at your log cabin.  >:(

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #746 on: July 11, 2013, 12:14:15 PM »
100 percent innocent.  Should not have ever been charged with a crime in the first place.

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Re: Zimmerman / Trayvon Trial - Discussion
« Reply #747 on: July 11, 2013, 12:16:29 PM »
We can only be lucky if a family of Raccoons eats you and a Skunk sprays your corpse at your log cabin.  >:(
Impossible!! I'm armed. :)
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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #748 on: July 11, 2013, 12:45:44 PM »
A lot of people saying he shouldn't have followed the kid...I say why not? Paparazzi follow people all the time...So do private investigators...If a Paparazzi followed a celebrity and the celebrity turned on the person and started pummeling him/her and said "I'm gonna kill you" and the Paparazzi shot the celebrity, would the Paparazzi be charged with murder?

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Re: OKAY NOW..... GEORGE ZIMMERMAN......GUILTY OR INNOCENT????
« Reply #749 on: July 11, 2013, 12:50:36 PM »
"Not guilty"
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