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Re: Zimmerman Perjury
« Reply #2150 on: August 28, 2013, 07:48:39 PM »
Little j doesn't get you. He's coming purely from a tribal perspective.

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury
« Reply #2151 on: August 28, 2013, 07:52:32 PM »
Little j doesn't get you. He's coming purely from a tribal perspective.

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury
« Reply #2152 on: August 28, 2013, 08:14:26 PM »
Little J gets what I am saying. NONE of us were there. ONLY George and the kid. He killed the kid. So ONLY ONE person gets to tell a story. George. Would he lie? Of course he would. Human beings lie.

Arce, there was an EYEWITNESS named John Good. It was NOT Zimm's word vs. a dead Trayvon. The witness and ALL the forensic evidence backed up Zimm's story.

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Good testified that he saw what he believed to be Martin on top of Zimmerman.

"The color on top was dark and the color at bottom was…red," Good said referring to the men's clothing.

At another point he told the court that the person on the bottom had "lighter skin color."

Zimmerman is a white Hispanic who was wearing a red and black jacket that night. Martin, who was black, was wearing a dark sweatshirt.

"The person on the bottom, I could hear a 'Help,'" he said.

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Under cross examination by Zimmerman's lawyer, Good said he believes he saw Martin on top punching Zimmerman "MMA style," a reference to mixed martial arts.

"The person on top was ground and pounding the person on the bottom?"asked Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara.

"Correct," said Good  

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2153 on: August 28, 2013, 09:09:57 PM »
he saw what he believed to be


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Re: Zimmerman Perjury
« Reply #2154 on: August 28, 2013, 09:17:29 PM »
 It is HIS story that the kid hit him first and tried to kill him. Humans lie. If she will lie about money, of course he will lie about murder. Clinton looked the USA and the World right in the eye and lied about Monica.

I love the Clinton example  :D

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2155 on: August 28, 2013, 09:19:08 PM »
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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2156 on: August 29, 2013, 12:34:42 AM »

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2157 on: August 29, 2013, 12:51:18 AM »
Alot of criminal cases are bullshit people take a oath to tell truth and blatantly tell lies on the stand that's how it's done, nothing is worse than being a defendant and seeing someone get on the stand take an oath then outright lie again and again on the stand, it's the American way, smh!

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury
« Reply #2158 on: August 29, 2013, 03:49:14 AM »
Arce, there was an EYEWITNESS named John Good. It was NOT Zimm's word vs. a dead Trayvon. The witness and ALL the forensic evidence backed up Zimm's story.


Here is a complete account of what was actually said:

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ROBERT SIEGEL, HOST:

And I'm Robert Siegel. Today, in the trial of George Zimmerman, a key witness bolstered Zimmerman's claim that he acted in self-defense when he killed teenager Trayvon Martin. The witness was a neighbor in the Sanford, Florida community where Zimmerman encountered Martin and he was the only person to see them fight before Zimmerman fired the gunshot that ended Martin's life.

Here's NPR's Greg Allen.

GREG ALLEN, BYLINE: On that night in February of last year, John Good and his wife were watching TV in their townhome when Good says he heard sounds outside. In the courtroom in Sanford today, he told prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda he opened the sliding door to his patio and stepped outside. He saw two people struggling and one soon was on top of the other in a straddling position. He said he could tell it was serious.

JOHN GOOD: Because it looked like there were strikes being thrown or punches being thrown, but as I clarified, due to the lighting, it could have also been, you know, holding down.

ALLEN: This is a story John Good has told many times before. He spoke to police that night and, over the next 16 months, was interviewed by other police, state investigators, prosecutors and the defense. In an early interview, he said the person on top was, quote, "raining down blows in a style similar to MMA," Mixed Martial Arts fighting. In more recent depositions, though, Good modified that description, saying he's not sure now he saw any blows struck. (NOTE: He is not sure he saw ANY blows struck. If anyone is in doubt, read it again.)

In the courtroom, he said he never saw Trayvon Martin slam George Zimmerman's head against the concrete as the defendant claims. De la Rionda picked up the questioning.

BERNIE DE LA RIONDA: The person on top - could you tell where that person on top was actually striking? And here's what I'm going to do.

(SOUNDBITE OF SLAPPING NOISE)

RIONDA: Were they going like this?

GOOD: I could not hear that. No.

RIONDA: Could you hear...

(SOUNDBITE OF POUNDING NOISE)

RIONDA: ...this?

GOOD: No.

ALLEN: Several other neighbors from the townhome community who have testified so far have raised questions about parts of Zimmerman's story. Except for John Good, though, none actually saw the fight before the shot was fired.

Under questioning by Zimmerman's lawyer Mark O'Mara today, Good confirmed some key parts of Zimmerman's version of events.

MARK O'MARA: The person who you now know to be Trayvon Martin was on top. Correct?

GOOD: Correct.

O'MARA: And he was the one who was raining blows down on the person on the bottom, George Zimmerman. Right?

GOOD: That's what it looked like.

ALLEN: O'Mara also got Good to confirm another key part of Zimmerman's story that the Neighborhood Watch volunteer was the one calling for help.

O'MARA: You now believe that that was George Zimmerman's voice. Correct?

GOOD: I never said that.


O'MARA: Do you believe...

GOOD: It could have been his, but I was not 100 percent sure.

O'MARA: I'm not asking for 100 percent certainty. I'm asking you to use your common sense and to tell us if you think that that was George Zimmerman's voice screaming for help, the person on the bottom.

GOOD: That's just my opinion.

Greg Allen, NPR News, Miami.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=196691611

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2159 on: August 29, 2013, 12:02:13 PM »
BTW, really have to laugh at how the so-called "liberal media" that was so "eager to convict" Zimmerman, chose to phrase this piece.

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2160 on: August 29, 2013, 01:15:00 PM »
 great post jack

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury
« Reply #2161 on: August 29, 2013, 01:16:51 PM »
Arce, there was an EYEWITNESS named John Good. It was NOT Zimm's word vs. a dead Trayvon. The witness and ALL the forensic evidence backed up Zimm's story.


forensic evidence doesn't tell us who started the fight

and John Good did not see confrontation, altercation or how the fight started




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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2162 on: August 29, 2013, 01:18:56 PM »
forensic evidence does NOT tell us WHO started the fight

and John Good did NOT see confrontation, altercation, nor how the fight STARTED


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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2163 on: August 29, 2013, 02:59:59 PM »
Alot of criminal cases are bullshit people take a oath to tell truth and blatantly tell lies on the stand that's how it's done, nothing is worse than being a defendant and seeing someone get on the stand take an oath then outright lie again and again on the stand, it's the American way, smh!

You are a veritable repository of knowledge, spitting veridicality on all manner of subjects; why aren't you writing books and/or testifying in front of Congress instead of smoking pot and injecting SEO into those blimp arms all day, brotha?

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2164 on: August 29, 2013, 03:55:34 PM »
 Syntax sounds like V

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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
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Re: Zimmerman Perjury Plea Deal
« Reply #2166 on: August 29, 2013, 04:00:32 PM »
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