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It's the norm for the opposite party to win the mid term elections.  With a few minor exceptions, history has shown that.  It is to be expected.

in 2010, everyone said it was a sign of things to come, that the tide had turned.

Then, 2 years later, the tea party influence was gone.  They couldn't even get a conservative on the national ticket.

Today?   Today it seems the GOP has gotten the tea party back under control.  Rand is putting on his John Boehnner mask every day, Rubio wears a McCain t-shirt everywhere.   Palin can't get a word in.  Cruz is about the ONLY tea party voice getting any mileage, and he's being minimized by his own party and FOX now.

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It's the norm for the opposite party to win the mid term elections.  With a few minor exceptions, history has shown that.  It is to be expected.

It's not the norm for a party that is dead to keep winning elections.   

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It's not the norm for a party that is dead to keep winning elections.   

Seems to me that they lost the last big one.  Twice. 

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Seems to me that they lost the last big one.  Twice. 

Yeah  - cause all the emotion driven single issue idiots came out of the woodwork lined up for free stuff

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Seems to me that they lost the last big one.  Twice. 

Yes, and won the House, made gains in the Senate, hold most of the governorships, and a majority of the state legislatures.  And poised to retake the Senate. 

Doesn't sound like a party that is dead to me. 

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Yes, and won the House, made gains in the Senate, hold most of the governorships, and a majority of the state legislatures.  And poised to retake the Senate. 

Doesn't sound like a party that is dead to me. 

true.  the white house doesn't matter.  Obama hasn't been able to cripple economy, install universal healthcare, or do any other kind of 'real' damage.  I'd say having the white house is pretty meaningless, actually.

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Hard to argue w the point that o-fag has crippled the nation, healthcare sucks, etc. 

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Hard to argue w the point that o-fag has crippled the nation, healthcare sucks, etc. 

He did, it does, etc., but that has nothing to do with whether the Republican party is dead  That was the point.  But people like 240 are too busy worshiping Obama to deal with that issue.

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He did, it does, etc., but that has nothing to do with whether the Republican party is dead  That was the point.  But people like 240 are too busy worshiping Obama to deal with that issue.

No doubt

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He did, it does, etc., but that has nothing to do with whether the Republican party is dead  That was the point.  But people like 240 are too busy worshiping Obama to deal with that issue.

I keep hearing how the repub party has so much power.   but I keep hearing about how much damage that Obama is doing to america.

I'm pretty sure BOTH can't be true.  And since I can SEE the damage obama is doing...

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I keep hearing how the repub party has so much power.   but I keep hearing about how much damage that Obama is doing to america.

I'm pretty sure BOTH can't be true.  And since I can SEE the damage obama is doing...

The damage Obama s doing does not impact his core base of fanatics

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I keep hearing how the repub party has so much power.   but I keep hearing about how much damage that Obama is doing to america.

I'm pretty sure BOTH can't be true.  And since I can SEE the damage obama is doing...

What you keep hearing from some is that the Republican party is dead.  That isn't supported by the facts. 

Nobody is talking about how much power they have.  But you're so enamored by the president that you cannot focus on that issue (the fact the Republican party is not dead or dying). 

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What you keep hearing from some is that the Republican party is dead.  That isn't supported by the facts. 

Nobody is talking about how much power they have.  But you're so enamored by the president that you cannot focus on that issue (the fact the Republican party is not dead or dying). 

maybe they're not dead.  But they lack the ability to

1) stop a dem from being elected prez
2) stop that dem from implementing a hugely damaging policy.

so maybe they're alive, but they sure aren't effective. 

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maybe they're not dead.  But they lack the ability to

1) stop a dem from being elected prez
2) stop that dem from implementing a hugely damaging policy.

so maybe they're alive, but they sure aren't effective.  

Ah, how could they stop #2 when Democrats controlled both houses?

How effective are the Dems when having control of every branch the only thing they could come up with was the most ineffective and destructive legislation ever?

You really have a hard time with history, legislative process and the inability to distinguish between doing victory laps for passing a law and its effect on society. Anyone can pass a law. But, what good does it come from that law? I think the latter should be of highest importance.

But, hey, I am sure this time around you will have time to vote for Paul. Rand Paul.

Uninformed, lazy voters like you is why they can't achieve #1.

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Ah, how could they stop #2 when Democrats controlled both houses?

That changed in January 2010 when Repubs took over the house. 

Scoot Brown 41 was supposed to stop obamacare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#House

And you're saying obama hasn't damaged America since January 2011?   

it's easy to claim repubs are effective, and it's easy to claim obama is destorying america with his legislation.  It's difficult to combine the 2.

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Ah, how could they stop #2 when Democrats controlled both houses?

How effective are the Dems when having control of every branch the only thing they could come up with was the most ineffective and destructive legislation ever?

You really have a hard time with history, legislative process and the inability to distinguish between doing victory laps for passing a law and its effect on society. Anyone can pass a law. But, what good does it come from that law? I think the latter should be of highest importance.

But, hey, I am sure this time around you will have time to vote for Paul. Rand Paul.

Uninformed, lazy voters like you is why they can't achieve #1.

Yep.  I agree with this. 

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This Just Might Be The Worst Poll Yet For Democrats
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MAY 5, 2014

The Republican Party is at its strongest point in two decades heading into midterm elections, according to a new Pew Research-USA Today poll, the latest daunting sign for Democrats ahead of campaign season.

The GOP is at an even stronger point than in previous "wave" elections in 1994 and 2010 and looks poised to make major gains — and possibly take control of the U.S. Senate.

According to the poll, out Monday, Republicans have a 47-43 lead on the generic congressional ballot. That's a 10-point swing from October, when Democrats, boosted by GOP blame for the federal government shutdown, held a 6-point lead in the Pew poll.

Overall, Democrats are plagued by the still-sluggish economy, the unpopularity of the Affordable Care Act, and the undesirable views of President Obama. More voters (26%) say their vote will be "against" the president. Only 16% say their vote will be "for" Obama. And by more than a 2-to-1 margin, voters say they want the next president to pursue policies different from the Obama administration's priorities.

As has been seen in other polls showing trouble for Democrats this year, the party is hampered by a lack of enthusiasm. For example, only 31% of Democratic voters say their vote is "for" Obama. In 2010, that number was 47%.

Some of the other troubling signs for Democrats:

Obama's approval rating sits at 44%, compared with 50% who disapprove.

Although last Friday's jobs report showed the unemployment rate dropping to its lowest level since 2008, most people (65%) say jobs are still difficult to find. And while 25% of voters think the economy will get better next year, about an equal number think it'll get worse.

The percentage of voters who disapprove of the Affordable Care Act (55%) is still tied for the highest in the law's history.

Below is a good chart from Pew that sums up the state of play this election season. Overall, it looks as if Republicans are poised for a stronger campaign than their gains in 2010. But it does not appear that they will have gains on par with the Democratic Party in 2006, when Democrats gained six seats in the Senate and 31 in the House amid the peak of President George W. Bush's unpopularity.

http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-elections-republicans-democrats-obama-2014-5#ixzz30xZg74ne

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Larry Sabato: Conditions Not Good for Democrats in November
Tuesday, 13 May 2014
By Melissa Clyne

Adopting meteorological metaphors, Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia Center for Politics predicts a Republican wave — possibly a tidal wave — in November’s midterm elections, Politico reports.

While Democrats "can hope for fearsome-sounding waves that crash loudly but do little structural damage, Republicans … are rooting for an impressive tidal wave, if not a full-fledged historic tsunami," he said.

There’s an expectation that the GOP has at least a 50 percent or better likelihood of winning the needed six seats to regain control of the Senate and "dethrone Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid," he said.

"We know that the president is unpopular, the president’s party typically performs poorly in midterms, and the Democrats are overextended on this year’s Senate map," according to Sabato. "One of the ways the Republicans could hurt their chances is by running bad candidates in some of these races."

Under a forecast most favorable to Democrats, they would add a seat – either in Georgia or Kentucky – or at worst, limit the GOP’s pickups to five (Arkansas, Louisiana, Montana, South Dakota, and West Virginia). But according to Sabato, the chances of the former occurring is "a miniscule notch above zero," while the latter is probable only if President Barack Obama stabilizes, and Republicans make a gaffe or two.

Under current conditions, he writes, the forecast calls for the GOP to add the needed six seats (he predicts Alaska, Arkansas, Montana, Louisiana, South Dakota, and West Virginia), with a "likely best plausible Republican result" if there’s a GOP surge and an Obama fail. Under those elements, Colorado, Iowa, and North Carolina would also move to the right.

A Republican tidal wave – a gain of 11 seats – stands just an "outside chance," according to Sabato, while a tsunami – a gain of 14 seats – is unlikely unless Obama has a "near-total collapse" and Democrats run subpar campaigns.

Sabato fingers 14 Democratic seats as "marginally practical targets" for the GOP. In order of vulnerability, they are South Dakota, West Virginia, Montana, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alaska, North Carolina, Iowa, Colorado, Michigan, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Virginia, and Oregon.

Democrats should prepare to let go of the Mount Rushmore State and the Mountain State, according to Sabato, since both have put up strong Republican candidates and in the case of South Dakota, national Democrats have done little to help likely nominee Rick Weiland.

"Put it all together, and the current forecast calls for a wave that’s more than a ripple but less than a tsunami – a four- to eight-seat addition for the Republicans, with the higher end of the range being a shade likelier than the lower," Sabato writes. "For Harry Reid, that would be a big-enough splash."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Larry-Sabato-Senate-midterm-elections/2014/05/13/id/571041#ixzz31ccWWC5U

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Fox News Poll: Republicans have edge in 2014 midterm ballot test
By Dana Blanton
Published June 05, 2014
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The latest Fox News poll finds that if the 2014 midterm elections were held today, 43 percent of voters would back the Republican candidate in their House district, while 39 percent would vote for the Democrat.

Of course the election isn’t today. It’s five months away. And for the fifth straight time this year, the results on this congressional generic ballot question have reversed in our Fox News poll.

CLICK HERE TO READ THE POLL RESULTS

Last month, the Democratic candidate had the edge by three percentage points. In April, the Republican was up by three. In March, it was Democrats +2 and before that it was GOP +2.

Democratic pollster Chris Anderson says this indicates an unsettled environment among voters.

“That said,” Anderson adds, “most other findings in the poll suggest an increasingly favorable environment for the Republicans heading toward the midterms.”

Anderson conducts the Fox News poll with Republican pollster Daron Shaw. Shaw notes his party’s advantage grows when looking only at those voters who are “extremely” or “very” interested in the election: 48 percent would back the GOP candidate, while 37 percent would support the Democrat. That’s almost unchanged from last month when the Republican candidate was favored 46-39 percent.

“What drives the difference between the overall results and the subgroup of interested voters is that 61 percent of Republicans are interested in the upcoming election, while just 55 percent of Democrats are,” Shaw says. “What might concern Republicans is that interest in the election among their party faithful is down five points from last month, while interest is up five points among Democrats.”

Even so, by an 11-point margin, voters think the Republican Party is better on foreign policy, and by a 10-point margin it is seen as the party that would work harder to reduce taxes. The GOP also has a slim four-point edge on being seen as the party that would do more to improve the economy. Republicans are seen as more “pro-business” by a whopping 44-point margin.

To varying degrees, independents favor the Republican Party on each issue tested, and prefer the GOP candidate on the generic vote by 14-points.

Poll pourri

By a five-point margin, voters think a Republican politician is more likely to lie to them than a Democrat. Still, the largest number -- 46 percent -- says both politicians are equally likely to lie to the public.

Among independents, 10 percent say a Democratic politician is more likely to lie to them, 12 percent say a Republican and 69 percent say “both.”

Overall, first-time candidates (37 percent) and incumbents (36 percent) are seen as equally likely to lie. Another 22 percent says “both.”

Speaking of incumbents, 78 percent of voters disapprove of the job Congress is doing. Just 13 percent approve.

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with 1,006 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from June 1-3, 2014. The full poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/05/fox-news-poll-republicans-have-edge-in-2014-midterm-ballot-test/?intcmp=latestnews

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Gallup: Midterms Look Grim for Democrats
Friday, 01 Aug 2014
By Sandy Fitzgerald

Slightly more Americans identify politically as being Democrats than Republicans, but that isn't enough to overcome voters' major dissatisfaction with President Barack Obama, the economy, and other factors — and could spell a tough time for Democrats at the polls this year, a new Gallup Poll concludes.

According to the poll, released Thursday, 42 percent of Americans say they are Democrats or they are Democratic-leaning independents, and 40 percent say they are Republicans or lean right.

But that advantage doesn't bode well when compared to historical patterns. The numbers parallel what Gallup found at the same point during similar midterm years of 1994, 2002, and 2010 that went strongly Republican at the polls, not was measured when Democrats went strong in 1998 and 2006.

When paired with a June Gallup Poll that revealed that just one in four Americans are satisfied with the direction in which the country is heading, and showing that Obama's popularity is at the same low point as in 2010, the pollster said that the indicators are pointing to many difficulties for Democrats once again.

In 2010, when the president's job approval rating hovered around the 40-percent mark, Democrats ended up losing more than 60 House seats.

"Only two presidents have had lower job approval ratings in recent midterm elections — George W. Bush in 2006 and Ronald Reagan in 1982," Gallup pointed out in June.

"In those years, the president's party lost more than 20 seats, suggesting seat loss is not always proportional to presidential job approval, but underscoring the peril the president's party faces when his approval rating is below 50%."

In the more recent poll, Gallup noted that the indicators will not likely change by November, so the Democratic Party will have to "match or exceed Republican turnout this fall if they hope to keep control of the Senate and minimize the size of the Republican majority in the House."

Another issue is that more Republicans tend to vote than Democrats in midterm elections, and the advantage "leaves the Democratic Party politically vulnerable in midterm election years when they do not have a significant cushion in partisanship," said Gallup.

In fact, in years like this one, when Democrats have a slightly higher percentage, Republican turnout advantages have led to GOP victories for House seats in 1994, 2002, and 2010, the report said.

In addition, the seats gained could be determined by structural factors, the report said, including how parties performed in the last election. Republicans gained seats in 1994 and 2010 after the executive and legislative branches of government were controlled by Democrats, and after former President Barack Obama's approval ratings were in the mid-40s in 1994, much like Obama's were in 2010.

But as Republicans already control the House of Representatives, the GOP is more likely to make its big gains in the Senate, replacing many incumbents who were elected in 2008.

The new poll was conducted from July 1-30 with a random sample of 14,718 adults aged 18 and older. Results based on the full sample have a margin of error of plus or minus 1 percentage point.

Meanwhile, The New York Times, which conducts a daily computerized analysis of the upcoming election, Friday said Republicans have a 54 percent likelihood of wresting control of the Senate away from Democrats. But the newspaper is still declaring the November election to be "essentially the same as a coin flip.

The newspaper ranks six Democratic incumbents in the most danger of losing their seats to Republicans: John Walsh of Montana, with a 96 percent likelihood; Mark Pryor, Arkansas, 74 percent; Mary Landrieu, Louisiana, 60 percent; Mark Udall, Colorado, 40 percent; Kay Hagan, North Carolina, 39 percent; and Mark Begich, Alaska, at 38 percent.

Also on Thursday, Kansas Sen. Jerry Moran, who chairs the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said at a luncheon with reporters that he considers the likelihood that Republicans will retake the Senate higher today than when he took control of the group in 2012, reports The Daily Caller. 

He said Republicans are expected to pick up seats from Democrats in 12 to 14 states, but Republicans only need to turn six states to win back the Senate.

The most likely seats to be taken, said Moran, are in West Virginia, Montana, and South Dakota, which he described as "solidly red states, and they have good candidates, excellent candidates, and Democrat opposition is not at that caliber."

Other key target states, Moran said, are Louisiana, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Alaska, where Democratic incumbents are seeking reelection in red states.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gallup-midterms-democrats-difficult/2014/08/01/id/586311#ixzz39A74cZ00

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The latest Fox News poll finds that if the 2014 midterm elections were held today, 43 percent of voters would back the Republican candidate in their House district, while 39 percent would vote for the Democrat.

I cannot believe... after Dems have stood by obama thru so much crap, that only 43% of voters aren't sure they'd vote republican.

I expected the Repubs number to be much higher, to be honest.  I think once they find some sort of unifying message, their numbers will rise.  There are a lot of far-right voters who voted/supported Bush - but didn't do the same for Mccain or Romney (both rinos). 

Once the repubs wise up and add a true far-right conservative to some tickets, that 43% number will rise.  But right now, why would any repub wake up and go knock on doors to tell his neighbors why Boehnner's "act now on immigration!" policy is superior to Obama's "do nothing" policy.

Reagan said it is better to do nothing, than to do the wrong thing.  Thank goodness for Cruz, stopping RINO boehnner.

yeah, you put ted cruz on a ticket, watch that 43% number become 53%.

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Dumbass...4% on a generic ballot in house races is considered a pretty healthy margin.

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Dumbass...4% on a generic ballot in house races is considered a pretty healthy margin.

but it's not 52 to 48... we're talking a 4% lead with EIGHTEEN percent still undecided.  That's massive.  The lead is 4, and 18% still don't know either way.

Look, if you've been eating obama shit sandwiches for 6  years... and you STILL don't know if you're going to vote against him this time?  lol... um, sorry, but that's not a vote I'd count on, as a republican.

Toss in the fact that many will say yes on the phone but won't bother to show up to vote for a RINO/amnesty supporter...

i'd say 4% is a great lead... but 18% undecided is pretty scary for the party claiming to be the alternative to a highly unpopular president.   

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James Carville: Are we facing a GOP takeover in 2014?
By James Carville - 08/05/14

Democrats, myself included, tend to respect and value expertise, and find that people who have established a record of accuracy and developed a model that’s proven to be beneficial over time should be people accorded great deference when they opine on a topic that they have demonstrated past mastery over.

You don’t hear complaints about skewered polls, global cooling, tax cuts paying for themselves, people riding dinosaurs and other silly crap like that from Democrats. So that is why it’s disturbing news that David Wasserman, from The Cook Political Report, who is a smart person’s idea of what a smart person sounds like, recently changed his House rating’s model toward favoring Republicans. 538.com’s Nate Silver’s recent commentary that Republicans have a 60 percent chance of a Senate takeover is similarly disconcerting. The reasons are plentiful and valid; the obvious ones are that we’re in the sixth year of the presidential term, there’s a tepid presidential approval rating, we’re seeing high wrong-track numbers, and we’re facing an unfavorable map. In the past these numbers have proven to have a great deal of validity.


There are a couple of things that I think should give Republicans a dash of caution and the Democrats a teaspoon of hope. Looking at the just released ABC/Washington Post poll, which also has a solid reputation, we find that the Democratic Party is viewed favorably by 49 percent and the Republican Party at — hold your breath — 35 percent. Now ponder this for a second: in essence, in what other endeavor would you be selling something attached to a brand so unpopular and expect success? And yet so many people conclude that how people view a political party has nothing to do with their vote. By the way, these have to be among historically high numbers for party favorability differential.

The favorable differential is reflected in self-described party ID. Remember, pollsters said long ago not to pay as much attention to how a voter is registered as how a voter identifies him or herself. According to the ABC/Washington Post poll, 32 percent of Americans identify themselves as Democrats versus only 22 percent who claim to be Republicans. Other polls, including from Democracy Corps, have shown similar gaps in both party image and self-described political identification. I do not doubt that Wasserman and Silver have arrived at their consensus out of anything other than a high degree of professionalism. I just wonder why they are placing such a large bet on a party that so few people like and even less want to identify with.

http://thehill.com/opinion/james-carville/214414-james-carville-are-we-facing-a-gop-takeover-in-2014#ixzz39djj3GF3