Oh of course, that was back in 96, a lifetime away.
I don't intend doing that again, just get in reasonable shape, no more bodybuilding contests for me.
not sure what is a 'reasonable shape' standard for you , but you look very good, imo under 10% bodyfat.
I do think Noone has better shape, better lines, more muscle. This is obviously related to upper body, as I have not seen full body pic from either one of you.
BTW Bouncer, you are looking good (just a daily prop in order to keep you away from antidepressants. At least for now, as you will end up using them at some stage in your life).