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what combo of steroids produce the "grainy" look?

is it achievable without GH?

expert opinions appreciated!

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2013, 06:05:03 PM »
Gh is probably the opposite of grainy look.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2013, 06:05:55 PM »
I could be wrong....but it seems to be a "Genetic thing" some guys no matter what they do/how low their bodyfat is...never get that "graininess"/others just have it (Yates,Branch Warren etc)

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2013, 06:06:58 PM »
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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2013, 06:12:38 PM »
is it something to do with having pale thin skin?

Haney looked "grainy"

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2013, 06:15:36 PM »
if anything, gh will make your lines fade.

gh is the worst possible drug for the grainy look.


it seems like in small doses it helps... some of these guys that swear by GH for health/aging reasons get ripped and grainy with it (non BB like that scott fag bragging about his money all the time)

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2013, 06:15:57 PM »
sweet potato and oatmeal


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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2013, 06:18:11 PM »
ive heard Halo is very good for the grainy look but quite harsh on the liver

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2013, 06:21:49 PM »
forget it, even at small doses, one will definitely be harder wo the gh than with it.

all competitors here i know go off of it couple weeks before a show.

it causes a water retention difeent to steroids, youll know it when you try it.

even at very lean, itll cause water retention, its in its nature, its how it works.

even at 2iu and clean diet and while being shredded, it makes some lines fade.
its weird, if you flex, the muscle looks like it wants to explode out of the skin, but yeah.film of water, can be quite bad, sock marks etc.
very typicaly on abs, lean abs with film of water on them.


Intredasting.

I r did not know that.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2013, 06:25:42 PM »
grainy= lean

combo of test, tren,and t3 should do it. throw in halo or 'oral tren' for a few weeks towards the end.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2013, 06:42:54 PM »
So this gh water retention can't be manipulated through diet, sodium and fluid intake?

A lot of guys that compete are gonna take diuretics anyway. So if they need to eliminate the gh prior to the show leads me to believe that's the only way...
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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2013, 06:57:42 PM »
So this gh water retention can't be manipulated through diet, sodium and fluid intake?

A lot of guys that compete are gonna take diuretics anyway. So if they need to eliminate the gh prior to the show leads me to believe that's the only way...

when you take GH out, right around week three is when you look your best. same with test, 2-3 weeks after a heavy test cycle. so the question I ask is why the fuck would someone just trying to look good who doesn't plan to compete use test or gh in the first place.
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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2013, 07:00:10 PM »
Intredasting.

I r did not know that.


I see what you did there ;D

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2013, 07:06:18 PM »
sure diuretics would work.or extremly clean diet, but still, wo it, everything else the same, gonna look harder.

now i read alot what ppl do to control it, and it seems the only ones who pull it off use diuretics couple days a week.

maybe not having daily gh shots helps a bit, not sure.



The more ius of gh the more water retention I would imagine.

when you take GH out, right around week three is when you look your best. same with test, 2-3 weeks after a heavy test cycle. so the question I ask is why the fuck would someone just trying to look good who doesn't plan to compete use test or gh in the first place.

You mean why not just use test if you're not gonna compete?

Looking good for everyday is much different than getting stage ready so I take it that's what you meant. Everyone should use test regardless, even just a bit cause its what your body needs to run optimally.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2013, 07:14:53 PM »
Good lighting.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2013, 07:23:06 PM »
sure diuretics would work.or extremly clean diet, but still, wo it, everything else the same, gonna look harder.

now i read alot what ppl do to control it, and it seems the only ones who pull it off use diuretics couple days a week.

maybe not having daily gh shots helps a bit, not sure.


Whats your opinion on the Masterona, or Primopolano?

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2013, 07:34:46 PM »
2 ends of the spectrum yates was biggest ,freakiest grainy,and galineko's boy hamdullah was the light heavy version complete skinned on a small bone frame...

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2013, 08:23:29 PM »
is it something to do with having pale thin skin?

Haney looked "grainy"

dense, muscularity

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2013, 10:10:12 PM »
this is a god point, there are some mirrors, when i walk past that one i broad sunlight, the reflection gives the sides of my legs that granite like look.
shocked myself.im sure you know what i mean the quads viewed from the side, that area often gets that look.

@borracho, i guess itll be the case, the more ius the more water, now  i kinda understand why some pros get striated glutes but knda faded muscle lines elsewhere.

a god example, i cant word it differently, when the gh muscles are working-under load-flexed, the striations pop out, it presses hard agains the skin,feels lie a baloon filling with air.

but always with the company of small water film.the fullness gh gives is quite something else.
masteron very good, if you can keep your hair on it, primo very weak, its the weaker equipoise basically, and equipoise is weak ass shit already.to get decent results must run something like a gramm weekly, and is expensive and not sure if its even rpoduced anymore.
primo is ok for a very very careful beginner.
masteron is serious steroid for men :D

fucking hell, now it occurs to me i never tried test e with masteron, maybe its time to do that sometime :D



While drugs is the biggest part of bodybuilding now a days, you guys still have to remember that bodybuilding is still a game of illusion.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2013, 11:03:25 PM »
GH has nothing to do with a grainy look. Diet has all most everything to do with it. Even a very thin layer of fat will ruin it. Also you must have as little sub Q water as possible. That's a whole thread in itself.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2013, 11:20:40 PM »
The more ius of gh the more water retention I would imagine.

You mean why not just use test if you're not gonna compete?

Looking good for everyday is much different than getting stage ready so I take it that's what you meant. Everyone should use test regardless, even just a bit cause its what your body needs to run optimally.



yeah bro I meant that nobody has any business running test as a "base" if they are not on gh. id keep it at 500mg,,, tops. also  I think a guy on a gram of deca and a gram of eq will be bigger than a guy on 2 grams of test.
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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2013, 12:10:24 AM »
It's very genetic obviously.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2013, 11:36:23 AM »
It's very genetic obviously.

I wouldn't go that far. Lots of guys in the 80's had the grainy look. I have been at some pro shows and seen them up close. Sometimes photos don't show it well. No one today will be grainy with all the slin they are using.  Like I said, very low fat and holding no water or it's not there.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2013, 11:42:13 AM »
I'm not a big fan of the grainy look. Unless a guy is blessed with great muscle bellies they tend to look stringy.

Talking regular people, obviously pros are massive and won't look stringy.

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Re: Question for Disgusted- Is the Grainy look achievable without GH?
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2013, 11:43:50 AM »
This might sound kinda dull but I thought the grainy look was from moving big weights year after year.