Reviews of Galeniko & No One's book (Include yours here)

[Borracho]

You probably should get a working digital scale and count again.  

oh shut up!  

[leninja]

I bought the book a few weeks ago, and I've read it a few times now.

I think it's a great read, I think gal and no one explain their points of view very well, gal's writing is hilarious (sandra bulldog LOL). It's full of broscience, but that's not bad at all, because it's their real lives experiences, years of it put together. And it just makes sense.

OF COURSE a traditional diet will get you lean, and even contest ripped if you stick at it and give it enough time. But just because something is effective (reaching a certain goal) does not mean it's the most efficient way to get there (how fast you reach your goal). In this case, the goal is fat loss, plain and simple. Get in, get out, get it done as fast as you can. Why the fuck would someone diet for 12-16-20 weeks if you could get to the desired result in a fraction of the time?

Right now life is getting in the way, but in the next couple of weeks I intend to start this crash diet and get shit done. I am far from fat right now, I actually PM'd no one for advice and showed him my pics, I estimated myself at 10~12% no one said I am actually no more than 8%, and his comments really motivated me. 

[no one]

I bought the book a few weeks ago, and I've read it a few times now.

I think it's a great read, I think gal and no one explain their points of view very well, gal's writing is hilarious (sandra bulldog LOL). It's full of broscience, but that's not bad at all, because it's their real lives experiences, years of it put together. And it just makes sense.

OF COURSE a traditional diet will get you lean, and even contest ripped if you stick at it and give it enough time. But just because something is effective (reaching a certain goal) does not mean it's the most efficient way to get there (how fast you reach your goal). In this case, the goal is fat loss, plain and simple. Get in, get out, get it done as fast as you can. Why the fuck would someone diet for 12-16-20 weeks if you could get to the desired result in a fraction of the time?

Right now life is getting in the way, but in the next couple of weeks I intend to start this crash diet and get shit done. I am far from fat right now, I actually PM'd no one for advice and showed him my pics, I estimated myself at 10~12% no one said I am actually no more than 8%, and his comments really motivated me. 

hey dude!

ya this guy has massive potential. his frame is made to carry a lot of tissue well. could either be very good at physique or very good at bbing depending on his response just given his frame. a good frame is 3/4 of the battle imo in how good you'll look when all is said and done.

I've given him some advise outside the realm of strictly dieting to gauge his potential and for him to better determine the look he wants to strive for cause unlike 90% of the population this kid can I think adapt his frame for whatever look he desires.

good luck bro when you start. keep me posted.

[bbrower]

I did a modified version of the diet. I'm clean, did about 1500 cals a day, a couple no carb days per week, it was a breeze. Strength wasn't an issue and stripped off the fat I had.

[swanzi85]

Been off diet for 2 weeks eating like a glutton. I had my lame reasons. But still did my best to fast off the mess. Weighing a bloated 190. Simply it works. Back on it . Pic taken today.

[The True Adonis]

My favorite part of the book was the coloring section.

[The True Adonis]

I do think their diet is certainly effective though and I am happy for both of them.  So far everyone who has bought and followed the advise has been more than pleased so that it is a good thing.

[cephissus]

lol 'obviously' cause you have the book and tried the system, right? 

the majority of the people buying the book are naturals and they are ALL experiencing tremendous results.

wtf instead of 'supposing' and 'assuming' try it and then speak from experience.

really?  any pics to back this up?  any pic of YOU, btw, exhibiting the condition galeniko achieved?  any recent pics of galeniko to prove he maintains condition (year round)?

[ukjeff]

really?  any pics to back this up?  any pic of YOU, btw, exhibiting the condition galeniko achieved?  any recent pics of galeniko to prove he maintains condition (year round)?

No one only posts pics after he has prepped for them, (dieted, shaved and oiled) I believe he is currently up around 249lbs, thats over 20lbs over his best condition.
He doesnt stick to this diet like Gal does.
The guy buys 8 kilos of peanut butter at a time.

[cephissus]

1 calorie per gram of chicken breast?  according to whom?

not google: 780 calories per 1lb "chicken breast"

https://www.google.com/search?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=calories%20in%201lb%20chicken%20breast&=&=&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1

not wolfram alpha: 756 calories in "1lb chicken breast filets"

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calories+in+1lb+chicken+breast&a=*DPClash.ExpandedFoodE.chicken+breast-_*ChickenBreastFilet-&a=*EAC.ExpandedFood.ChickenBreast-_**ChickenBreast.*Food%3ACookingMethod_Food%3AFried.Food%3APeelingType_Food%3AMeatOnly--.dflt-

60-90 calories in natural peanut butter?

This should scarcely vary at all, since the ingredients in any brand of natural peanut butter are just peanuts and salt.  Sorry but 60 cals is pure bullshit.  My jar of Adam's downstairs says 100 per Tbsp.

So do the first three sites I can find on google:

http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-compliments-peanut-butter-100-percent-i91703
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/custom/589823/2
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/nancys-peanut-butter-natural-creamy-peanut-butter-80379406 (90 cals  here)

Hmm... 980 calories, or 1700+?  Which is it, OTH?

btw, as a little anecdote: i made no one's peanut butter whey snack three times this week.  each time i put in what i thought looked like "3 heaping tablespoons of peanut butter".  then i noticed half the jar was gone... 1000+ calories per snack

Do you ever notice just how little 1 Tbsp peanut butter really is?  Not saying others dont measure more carefully than I did, but 1 Tbsp is very, very little.  Which makes sense, as it possesses only slightly fewer calories than oil.  Ground nuts, being very much like pure oil, are just about the most calorie-dense of all foods.

[cephissus]

No one only posts pics after he has prepped for them, (dieted, shaved and oiled) I believe he is currently up around 249lbs, thats over 20lbs over his best condition.
He doesnt stick to this diet like Gal does.
The guy buys 8 kilos of peanut butter at a time.

I've never seen him in amazing condition anyway.  For all the self-promotion about this diet, there has been very little in the way of hard evidence.  Sure, gal has posted some damn impressive looking pics (and, recently, some not so impressive ones -- festival adventure thread, anyone?), but these don't prove he maintains this condition "year round"... much less no one, or any of the other guys chiming in about how this diet "works" (sans pics, generally).  And usually when they've only been on the diet for a matter of weeks, if that.

Like gal and no one admit, a traditional diet can get people shredded too.  The interesting thing about their diet, to me, has always been the claim that they get as lean as possible, close to contest condition, and maintain it indefinitely.  If I misunderstood, and this wasn't claimed, disregard this post.  So far though, there's been no substantial evidence backing this claim.  That said, there's been no conclusive evidence to the contrary, either.  But it seems like the pics have pretty much trickled off, and they were only ever really coming from Gal anyway.  I want to believe as much as the next guy, but the mounting shadow of doubt in my mind can't be denied.

No one only posts pics after he has prepped for them, (dieted, shaved and oiled) I believe he is currently up around 249lbs, thats over 20lbs over his best condition.
He doesnt stick to this diet like Gal does.
The guy buys 8 kilos of peanut butter at a time.

Has he posted any said "prepped" pics?  I've only seen three pics of the guy ever.  The first one he posted back in the adonis thread, then he posted one where he was out of shape at the pool, and the most recent one that was a close up of his torso.  TBH, I can't really remember any of them too clearly now, but I remember thinking his recent one (posted in support of the diet) wasn't any more impressive than the one he posted way back when.  And his condition wasn't anything out of the ordinary.  Good, yes, but not on gal's level... there are a couple of guys in the condition he exhibited in every gym i've been to.

[ukjeff]

No ones 8 kilo peanut butter purchase results in 46,400 cals.
I would be interested to know how long it takes to eat all that peanut butter?

[ukjeff]

I've never seen him in impressive condition anyway.  For all the self-promotion about this diet, there has been very little in the way of hard evidence.  Sure, gal has posted some damn impressive looking pics... but these don't prove he "maintains this condition year round"... much less no one, or any of the other guys chiming in about how this diet "works", sans pics, of course.  And usually when they've only been on the diet for a matter of weeks, if that.

Like gal and no one admit, any diet can get people shredded.  The interesting thing about their diet, to me, has always been the claim that they get as lean as possible, close to contest condition, and maintain it indefinitely.  So far, there's been no conclusive evidence of this.  That said, there's been no conclusive evidence to the contrary, either.  But it seems like the pics have pretty much trickled off, and they were only ever really coming from Gal anyway.

Has he posted any said "prepped" pics?  I've only seen three pics of the guy ever.  The first one he posted back in the adonis thread, the one where he was out of shape at the pool, and then the recent one that was a close up of his torso.  TBH, I can't really remember any of them too clearly now, but I remember thinking his recent one (posted in support of the diet) wasn't any more impressive than the one he posted way back when.  And his condition wasn't anything out of the ordinary.  Good, yes, but not on gal's level... there are a couple of guys in the condition he exhibited in every gym i've been to.

No ones shots have always been front shots, we have never seen his lower back, thats where us older guys store our fat. 
I would be interested to see a shot of his lower back, dated of course. 

[nzmusclemonster]

Is this book on sale to the kneegars in NZ?

[bigmc]

uk jeff proving he cant stop stalking trolling in this thread

his obsession with no one is at the point where he is calculating his peanut butter intake 

[ukjeff]

Nah, not trolling him anymore, Im genuinly interested this time.
I would just like him to verify a few of his contradictory posts, he is after all trying to sell a book based on his claims.

[bigmc]

Nah, not trolling him anymore, Im genuinly interested this time.
I would just like him to verify a few of his contradictory posts, he is after all trying to sell a book based on his claims.

its still trolling


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[ukjeff]

its still trolling


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Asking someone to verify his claims isnt trolling.
Why would he get upset about that?
He has also claimed new muscle created whilst in a calorific deficit.
I dont think thats possible.
I believe he is mistaken about that and any new muscle he has gained has been between his calorific deficit days when he is bingeing and eating normally.

[BigCyp]

uk jeff proving he cant stop stalking trolling in this thread

his obsession with no one is at the point where he is calculating his peanut butter intake 

Bahahaha 

[D.O.U.P]

Been off diet for 2 weeks eating like a glutton. I had my lame reasons. But still did my best to fast off the mess. Weighing a bloated 190. Simply it works. Back on it . Pic taken today.

Solid build.

I'M on the plan as well, you're correct, it does work.

[bigmc]

Asking someone to verify his claims isnt trolling.
Why would he get upset about that?
He has also claimed new muscle created whilst in a calorific deficit.
I dont think thats possible.
I believe he is mistaken about that and any new muscle he has gained has been between his calorific deficit days when he is bingeing and eating normally.

the thread is about reviews of the book

you are trying to rile him by going off topic

might have been an idea to start a thread asking him the question

why do you care how much peanut butter he buys 

[ukjeff]

the thread is about reviews of the book

you are trying to rile him by going off topic

might have been an idea to start a thread asking him the question

why do you care how much peanut butter he buys 

Point taken, I will start a new thread asking him the questions.
I cant understand why someone who only has a couple of teaspoons of peanut butter a day would buy 8 kilos at a time.
8 kilos is over a years supply at that rate.

[King Shizzo]

Point taken, I will start a new thread asking him the questions.
I cant understand why someone who only has a couple of teaspoons of peanut butter a day would buy 8 kilos at a time.
8 kilos is over a years supply at that rate.

Thats how he smuggles the coke.

[BigCyp]

the thread is about reviews of the book

you are trying to rile him by going off topic

might have been an idea to start a thread asking him the question

why do you care how much peanut butter he buys 

Jeff is at the age now, where he probably makes bar charts on jam usage, and labels everything in the cupboard with a dymo

[bigmc]

Point taken, I will start a new thread asking him the questions.
I cant understand why someone who only has a couple of teaspoons of peanut butter a day would buy 8 kilos at a time.
8 kilos is over a years supply at that rate.

perhaps he gets a discount buying in bulk

my take is in the grand scheme of things im not going to lose sleep over some ones peanut butter accruing tactics