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« on: September 07, 2013, 03:06:48 AM »


so i just got my bloodwork back from the doc after a long period of typical low test symptons
have used ped's in the past, but haven't used them in at least 12 years
result: test level below the minimum range and a vitamin d shortage

i'm 42 years old and want to get on hrt (in the netherlands)
doctor consulted with a specialist and i have to get blood drawn again next wednesday to rule out a one time low test outcome

any advice on how to keep my test level as low as possible for the next week without any chemical help?
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2013, 01:29:15 PM »

If it's that low already at your age i bet it's going to stay that way.

Just see what results you get, i bet you're low enough to get on HRT.


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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2013, 10:36:30 AM »


i need it to be as low as possible coming wednesday  Wink

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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2013, 01:26:51 PM »

hm is it this wenesday?then its too late for this advice, just go there.

if you got 1 week time, inject a bunch of these withing 2 day timeframe:

tren a, test p, some anadrol pills.

thatll shut own production right the hell down and wont recover any time soon

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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2013, 02:10:20 PM »

hm is it this wenesday?then its too late for this advice, just go there.

if you got 1 week time, inject a bunch of these withing 2 day timeframe:

tren a, test p, some anadrol pills.

thatll shut own production right the hell down and wont recover any time soon

that will be scenario number 2 if levels will be slightly above minimum wednesday  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2013, 02:27:21 PM »

jesus christ, blind leading the blind.

no sex till after the blood work is taken. stay up later than normal before going to bed. you should be fine. don't listen to the idiots telling you to take anything.
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2013, 03:14:47 PM »

jesus christ, blind leading the blind.

no sex till after the blood work is taken. stay up later than normal before going to bed. you should be fine. don't listen to the idiots telling you to take anything.

I've read a study that abstinence from sex led to higher blood plasma testosterone concentrations.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 03:19:03 PM »

Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence.

Abstract

This current study examined the effect of a 3-week period of sexual abstinence on the neuroendocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm. Hormonal and cardiovascular parameters were examined in ten healthy adult men during sexual arousal and masturbation-induced orgasm. Blood was drawn continuously and cardiovascular parameters were constantly monitored. This procedure was conducted for each participant twice, both before and after a 3-week period of sexual abstinence. Plasma was subsequently analysed for concentrations of adrenaline, noradrenaline, cortisol, prolactin, luteinizing hormone and testosterone concentrations. Orgasm increased blood pressure, heart rate, plasma catecholamines and prolactin. These effects were observed both before and after sexual abstinence. In contrast, although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm, higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence. These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788



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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2013, 08:10:38 PM »

4-5 glasses of red wine per night will lower it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2013, 08:57:45 AM »

I've read a study that abstinence from sex led to higher blood plasma testosterone concentrations.
does it include masturbation? Wink
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2013, 09:15:47 AM »

4-5 glasses of red wine per night will lower it.

This sounds like a safe, fun, healthy way to accomplish his goals  Cool
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2013, 12:21:06 PM »


so the testing didn't work out as i had hoped
my levels vary between just slightly under minimum and slightly above minimum (been tested 4 times now)

which means they won't help me because obvious;y my body does produce by itself

next step is to start using, don't want high dosages though and preferably as few orals as possible

any suggestions on types of gear and lenght of usage?


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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2013, 12:36:11 PM »

so the testing didn't work out as i had hoped
my levels vary between just slightly under minimum and slightly above minimum (been tested 4 times now)

which means they won't help me because obvious;y my body does produce by itself

next step is to start using, don't want high dosages though and preferably as few orals as possible

any suggestions on types of gear and lenght of usage?




Testosterone.

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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2013, 01:04:03 PM »

Testosterone.

Length of usage: life

This. LOL>
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2013, 02:07:09 PM »

Testosterone.

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thanks  Wink

what kind of test at what dosage?
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2013, 04:56:59 PM »

Eat black licorice
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2013, 05:37:09 PM »

thanks  Wink

what kind of test at what dosage?

I read somewhere that most hrt clinics in florida start their patients off at 250mgs of cyp or enanthate a week. Seems like the place to be if you wanna get good drug hook ups legally since I've also heard oxycontin is prescribed like candy. Anyways, most people get hrt started off at 250 mgs every 15 days and seems to put them in the normal range. I'd start off with some test e or cyp at 250mgs every week. Should get your test levels way up and when feel you need a boost for muscle gains only then I'd consider upping the dose or adding in different things. For just health purposes and well being you might do fine on just 125mg a week.

Sucks you're forced to medicate yourself but this is a steroid board and we all do it  Cheesy .....just make sure to get blood tests regularly since this stuff can have negative health effects on some people.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2013, 06:03:38 PM »

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199910073411515
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2013, 05:28:41 AM »

so i just got my bloodwork back from the doc after a long period of typical low test symptons
have used ped's in the past, but haven't used them in at least 12 years
result: test level below the minimum range and a vitamin d shortage

i'm 42 years old and want to get on hrt (in the netherlands)
doctor consulted with a specialist and i have to get blood drawn again next wednesday to rule out a one time low test outcome

any advice on how to keep my test level as low as possible for the next week without any chemical help?

Same situation as me. 40 years old, test hovering between 190-220 pmol/l. So I also don't get a prescription. Sad Also in Holland, btw. Was de befaamde Dr. Karstens er nog maar. Grin

I am going to start on 250 mg TE weekly, and run it for at least 6 months to see where I'm at then. If I can get by with less, then I will take less.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2013, 08:19:45 AM »

Same situation as me. 40 years old, test hovering between 190-220 pmol/l. So I also don't get a prescription. Sad Also in Holland, btw. Was de befaamde Dr. Karstens er nog maar. Grin

I am going to start on 250 mg TE weekly, and run it for at least 6 months to see where I'm at then. If I can get by with less, then I will take less.

lol we must have been eating the same nachos as i'm also planning to start with 250 mg TE on a weekly basis   

ik heb een toch een vrij ruimdenkende huisarts maar het is inderdaad helaas geen dr karsten  Grin

zoek alleen nog een goede bron, trainde 20 jaar geleden in de sportschool van arnold buurman dus de lijntjes waren toen vrij kort



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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2013, 01:45:24 AM »

lol we must have been eating the same nachos as i'm also planning to start with 250 mg TE on a weekly basis   

ik heb een toch een vrij ruimdenkende huisarts maar het is inderdaad helaas geen dr karsten  Grin

zoek alleen nog een goede bron, trainde 20 jaar geleden in de sportschool van arnold buurman dus de lijntjes waren toen vrij kort

ik train al jaren thuis, dus een bron is dan helemaal lastig te vinden. Online kan goed gaan, heb 2 jaar geleden een kuurtje tbol gedaan wat wel echt werkte. Maar injecteren met iets waarvan je niet weet of het zuiver is? Mooi niet!

Er zijn wel disreputabele sportscholen hier, maar daar zijn de "lijntjes" dan weer lang en wit... Grin
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2013, 01:09:19 PM »

It's already low. I you take it first thing in the morning it will be at a higher point. So if they want you to take it first thing stay up the whole night do whatever you have to you wake up and your test is higher. Don't sleep for a couple days your test will be shot.
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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2013, 04:32:26 AM »

Are you going to run HCG together with it? Looks like I'll do 500 IU twice weekly, starting week 2.
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2013, 08:09:05 AM »

Hahaha yes, all you need to do for the next week is;

Drink 5 glasses of red wine per night, (masturbating yourself unconsious in between glasses) stay up until 3am each night and you're good to go
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2013, 08:19:48 AM »

Hahaha yes, all you need to do for the next week is;

Drink 5 glasses of red wine per night, (masturbating yourself unconsious in between glasses) stay up until 3am each night and you're good to go

Yes perhaps wearing women's clothing (including lingerie) would further suppress this athletes natural test production as well.
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