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« on: September 27, 2013, 09:07:59 AM »

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/senator-says-politics-have-reached-civil-war-levels-20130927


So be it.   
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2013, 09:40:21 AM »

Good, that's what I'm hoping for. The status quo needs to be changed
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 09:45:11 AM »

What these leftist tyrants do not understand is that there is only so long you can push people before they revolt and wont take their leftist bs any longer and we are close
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 10:00:44 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 10:04:09 AM »

ROTFLMAO

I already said - I think we should split the country in two at this point - the liberals, communists, progressives, statists and enviro whack jobs, animal rights extremsits, illegals, hipsters, etc on one side

Everyone else on the other.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 10:11:40 AM »

I already said - I think we should split the country in two at this point - the liberals, communists, progressives, statists and enviro whack jobs, animal rights extremsits, illegals, hipsters, etc on one side

Everyone else on the other.
And where do you put the certifiably insane Nazi wannabes?  You know the type?  They hate liberals, they hate intellectuals, they hate unions, they hate gays, they hate foreigners and they pretty much hate whatever they are told to hate.

Where do they go?

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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 10:13:11 AM »

And where do you put the certifiably insane Nazi wannabes?  You know the type?  They hate liberals, they hate intellectuals, they hate unions, they hate gays, they hate foreigners and they pretty much hate whatever they are told to hate.

Where do they go?



Nazis were leftists remember?  NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY? 
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2013, 10:14:52 AM »


the last civil war didn't work out so well for the side with the rich people who wanted free labor or the fundie christians that used the bible to justify slavery
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2013, 10:19:39 AM »

And where do you put the certifiably insane Nazi wannabes?  You know the type?  They hate liberals, they hate intellectuals, they hate unions, they hate gays, they hate foreigners and they pretty much hate whatever they are told to hate.

Where do they go?



They go to an Acquafina bottled water factory, ...with really tight lids to occupy their time, ...and their brain power.  Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2013, 10:23:07 AM »

And where do you put the certifiably insane Nazi wannabes?  You know the type?  They hate liberals, they hate intellectuals, they hate unions, they hate gays, they hate foreigners and they pretty much hate whatever they are told to hate.

Where do they go?



No we hate Libs who pretend to be intellectuals. There's no need for unions as they're currently constructed. Gays...gay it up, I just don't need to see it on TV, in magazines and in movies on a constant basis. Foreigners...I don't want welfare cases waiting to happen crossing our borders, sucking down tax dollars we don't have. If your gonna ship us 100 Mexican rocket scientists and 200 brain surgeons...go ahead..oh wait those don't exist. You libs and your utopian dreams, at the expense of everybody else.  
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 10:31:23 AM »

Nazis were leftists remember?  NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY? 
Let's see, Hitler murdered intellectuals, union organizers, gays, foreigners and those not killed were enslaved for cheap labor...I'm sorry, what was your point again?  Oh yes, the word 'socialist' appears in your post.

You do realize that your beliefs intersect with those of the German Nazi party quite well.  You and your slave owning sympaticos down south will get a healthy Northern boot in your tamborines.

Property v. people. 

You fall on the wrong side of that equation.

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2013, 10:38:23 AM »

Let's see, Hitler murdered intellectuals, union organizers, gays, foreigners and those not killed were enslaved for cheap labor...I'm sorry, what was your point again?  Oh yes, the word 'socialist' appears in your post.

You do realize that your beliefs intersect with those of the German Nazi party quite well.  You and your slave owning sympaticos down south will get a healthy Northern boot in your tamborines.

Property v. people. 

You fall on the wrong side of that equation.



Stalin pol pot mao and lenin didn't the same shit?   Huh?  Is that your contention - Statism, Leftism, Progressivism, etc are all the same crap
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2013, 10:42:26 AM »

Stalin pol pot mao and lenin didn't the same shit?   Huh?  Is that your contention - Statism, Leftism, Progressivism, etc are all the same crap

yes I remember how Stalin, Pol Pot, Lenin, etc.... were all for access to healthcare for everyone, equal pay for women, equal treatment for gays, reduction of nuclear arms, access to student loans, etc....

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2013, 10:57:43 AM »

yes I remember how Stalin, Pol Pot, Lenin, etc.... were all for access to healthcare for everyone, equal pay for women, equal treatment for gays, reduction of nuclear arms, access to student loans, etc....



LOL - the level of ignorance you display is amazing.  Communism promised all those things and never delivered. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2013, 11:04:57 AM »

LOL - the level of ignorance you display is amazing.  Communism promised all those things and never delivered. 

Stalin promised equal pay for women, equal treatment of gays, reductions of nuclear arms?



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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2013, 12:02:53 PM »

Stalin promised equal pay for women, equal treatment of gays, reductions of nuclear arms?




It's common knowledge that Hitler Of the Big Shoulders and Uncle Joe of the Bleeding Heart were bust out humanitarians just like most liberals in America.  And like most liberals, we enslave and murder other people.

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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2013, 12:06:28 PM »

the last civil war didn't work out so well for the side with the rich people who wanted free labor or the fundie christians that used the bible to justify slavery

In all seriousness, the southern states should have been allowed to seperate peacefully.  By conquering the southern states by killing hundreds of thousands of people and crushing all dissent just to maintain control of their resources rather than by allowing states who didnt want to be part of the union anymore seperate in peace, the Federal government basically became the very same tyrannical, physically and culturally remote ruling power that the original founding fathers fought to replace.

The same basic issues that led to the civil war never went away...and since they were kept under Union control at gunpoint, the same problems are again manifesting themselves.

The Federal government needs to have a serious overhaul and downsizing back to the original design laid out by the constitution, for the United States to work smoothly again. But since there is no way the Federal gov will give up any of its powerback to the states, there is only one solution really.

This 'union' needs to seperate.
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2013, 12:06:38 PM »

It's common knowledge that Hitler Of the Big Shoulders and Uncle Joe of the Bleeding Heart were bust out humanitarians just like most liberals in America.  And like most liberals, we enslave and murder other people.

If you ask 333 I'm sure he believes Obama is preparing slave/extermination camps in preparation for an imminent round up of all political dissidents and probably anyone who isn't a Muslim

I don't know if you had the good fortune to read any of his rants about how Obama is trying to intentionally collapse the country so that he can install himself as dictator for life

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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2013, 12:07:37 PM »

Nazism and Stalinism were cults of personalities, more like a cult or a religion(especially the nazis) than a rational secular political theory.
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2013, 12:11:47 PM »


does this mean you have an occasional experience of the absurd?
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2013, 12:11:53 PM »

In all seriousness, the southern states should have been allowed to seperate peacefully.  By conquering the southern states by killing hundreds of thousands of people and crushing all dissent just to maintain control of their resources rather than by allowing states who didnt want to be part of the union anymore seperate in peace, the Federal government basically became the very same tyrannical, physically and culturally remote ruling power that the original founding fathers fought to replace.

The same basic issues that led to the civil war never went away...and since they were kept under Union control at gunpoint, the same problems are again manifesting themselves.

The Federal government needs to have a serious overhaul and downsizing back to the original design laid out by the constitution, for the United States to work smoothly again. But since there is no way the Federal gov will give up any of its powerback to the states, there is only one solution really.

This 'union' needs to seperate.

fine by me

Many of the red states get more back in federal assistance than they pay in tax dollars


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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2013, 12:14:01 PM »

fine by me

Many of the red states get more back in federal assistance than they pay in tax dollars




To be fair the south has a very large minority population so it's disingenuous to imply its white rednecks who are receiving the bulk of federal assistance. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2013, 12:18:30 PM »

In all seriousness, the southern states should have been allowed to seperate peacefully.  By conquering the southern states by killing hundreds of thousands of people and crushing all dissent just to maintain control of their resources rather than by allowing states who didnt want to be part of the union anymore seperate in peace, the Federal government basically became the very same tyrannical, physically and culturally remote ruling power that the original founding fathers fought to replace.

The same basic issues that led to the civil war never went away...and since they were kept under Union control at gunpoint, the same problems are again manifesting themselves.

The Federal government needs to have a serious overhaul and downsizing back to the original design laid out by the constitution, for the United States to work smoothly again. But since there is no way the Federal gov will give up any of its powerback to the states, there is only one solution really.

This 'union' needs to seperate.
I think that's a facile statement.  The Civil War was about free labor and the lazy ass southerners that wanted the blacks to do their work for them.  The last thing this country needed was another fat assed aristocracy.  We'd just left that in Brit.


The US Constitutions was not authored to limit the size of government.  That meme came about from fatassed southerners that wanted the humane Fed. Gov. to not interfere with their slaving.

Read the constitution...the Federal Gov. is supreme.  Not a colleague of the states...Supreme to the states.

I do agree that we face the same racist issues today that we faced then.
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2013, 12:19:43 PM »

To be fair the south has a very large minority population so it's disingenuous to imply its white rednecks who are receiving the bulk of federal assistance. 

I never said or even implied anything about race.  Where did you get that from?

But since you brought up the premise maybe you can give an example of a red state where the majority of the population is a minority

keep in mind the most recent census put the black population in the US @ 13% and Hispanic @ 17%  (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html)
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2013, 12:34:31 PM »

I never said or even implied anything about race.  Where did you get that from?

But since you brought up the premise maybe you can give an example of a red state where the majority of the population is a minority

keep in mind the most recent census put the black population in the US @ 13% and Hispanic @ 17%  (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html)


Total populations is irrelevant.  What matters is the percentage of recipients within a population group.
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