Author Topic: Lib Columbia Prof who fought white supremacy attacked by black mob in NYC  (Read 2333 times)

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Then why didn't you find out?  Start here.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/opinion/do-american-sikhs-count.html?_r=0



you're suggesting that after I read your statement that I should go research what you might have read to form your opinion

I read the article.  I don't see how it supports your belief that he is claiming that the threats against Sikhs are only coming from white supremacist groups.  The article was written after a right wing white supremacist shot up a Sikh temple but he didn't say this was the only threat or even a primary threat to Sikhs.  For example, he mentions in the article how they are also targeted in their own homeland in South Asia where I assume you and I can agree there is likely not many white supremacist groups?

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Their distinct religious identity (uncut hair, turban, beard) has historically marked Sikhs, particularly men, as targets for discrimination, both in their homeland in South Asia and in the various communities of the Sikh diaspora.

so again, I don't understand how you formed the opinion that he is suggesting that these groups are the primary threat against Sikhs

Nothing I've read in the article you posted supports this opinion

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you're suggesting that after I read your statement that I should go research what you might have read to form your opinion

I read the article.  I don't see how it supports your belief that he is claiming that the threats against Sikhs are only coming from white supremacist groups.  The article was written after a right wing white supremacist shot up a Sikh temple but he didn't say this was the only threat or even a primary threat to Sikhs.  For example, he mentions in the article how they are also targeted in their own homeland in South Asia where I assume you and I can agree there is likely not many white supremacist groups?

so again, I don't understand how you formed the opinion that he is suggesting that these groups are the primary threat against Sikhs

Nothing I've read in the article you posted supports this opinion

I never said only from.  What I said was that he is inflating hate crimes by white supremacist groups when it's unlikely he'll be a victim of one.
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I never said only from.  What I said was that he is inflating hate crimes by white supremacist groups when it's unlikely he'll be a victim of one.

I don't see how the article you posted supports the opinion that he is "inflating hate crimes by white supremacist groups".

The article was written after an attack by a white supremacist on Sikh temple but nothing I read in that article indicates to me that he identifies that type of group as a primary threat

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I don't see how the article you posted supports the opinion that he is "inflating hate crimes by white supremacist groups".

The article was written after an attack by a white supremacist on Sikh temple but nothing I read in that article indicates to me that he identifies that type of group as a primary threat

I never said he said they were a primary threat.  I'm saying it's no threat at all. It is a matter of statistics was my point. 
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I never said he said they were a primary threat.  I'm saying it's no threat at all. It is a matter of statistics was my point. 

that's obviously not true given the event that prompted the very article that you posted

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that's obviously not true given the event that prompted the very article that you posted

I wonder if he will write an article of black racism now too?   ;)

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I wonder if he will write an article of black racism now too?   ;)

I wonder why you were so stupid as to write in the original title of this thread that this guy hates white people

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that's obviously not true given the event that prompted the very article that you posted

He says this in the article or a variation of this times. Identifying white supremacists as a threat.  Statistically, it's unlikely he will encounter an attack from any of these groups. 

“There is also the question of whether white supremacist groups have specifically targeted American Sikhs,” Singh said.

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In interviews after his attack he excuses the actions of his black attackers.
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He says this in the article or a variation of this times. Identifying white supremacists as a threat.  Statistically, it's unlikely he will encounter an attack from any of these groups. 

“There is also the question of whether white supremacist groups have specifically targeted American Sikhs,” Singh said.



the article written after an attack by a white supremacist on a Sikh temple?

that's odd.  He should have really mentioned how Sikhs in Wisconsin face a greater threat from blacks and gangs

Is that your point?

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the article written after an attack by a white supremacist on a Sikh temple?

that's odd.  He should have really mentioned how Sikhs in Wisconsin face a greater threat from blacks and gangs

Is that your point?

They do - let one of them walk down the street in Milwaukee and see what happens

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In interviews after his attack he excuses the actions of his black attackers.

does he excuse them or does he forgive them

there is a difference

from the link I posted on the first page of this thread yesterday

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This is why Dr. Singh does not view his attack as a simple case of “mistaken identity.” While many news outlets have reported that he was attacked because he was “mistaken” as a Muslim, it’s unlikely these youth would have stayed their hand if they knew Dr. Singh was Sikh.

“Mistaken identity” obscures the real issue: that people with brown skin, beards, veils, and/or turbans are stereotyped as foreigners and terrorists.

The day after surgery on his jaw, in an act that many people would see as beyond the call of duty, Dr. Singh appeared Monday before media cameras and called for understanding, education, and compassion. “If I could speak to my attackers, I would ask them if they had any questions about me, the Sikh faith,” he said. “I would invite my attackers to the Gurdwara [Sikh house of worship], make sure they have an opportunity to learn who we are, get to know us. So that they too can get past this.”

Within 24 hours of his public statement, 2,000 people of all faiths and backgrounds sent him messages in an outpouring of love and support.

“I am grateful that I may live out my faith by responding to this attack with love and service,” he said. “I will build relationships with churches, schools, and community leaders to end hate-based violence against all people.”

Dr. Singh is already working with civil rights and interfaith groups on community dialogues and events in Harlem. “I want our neighborhood to be safe for my one-year old son. To me, that doesn’t mean locking up more young people but touching hearts, changing minds, and deepening our bonds.”

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He might not hate white people but he seriously delusional about where the threat is coming from.  There aren't many white supremacy groups in the United States and the ones that do exist are small in number and scattered throughout the country with very little connection to one another.  I wager he's more likely to be attacked by Deshaun than Cletus.

here you go again ::)

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I wonder if he will write an article of black racism now too?   ;)

still obsessed with black people.....wow

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Classic case of a posh liberal not yet in touch with reality.

Don't worry tho, he'll continue to make excuses and blame "the man" for his perpetrators.
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