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Re: What Bodyfat % is optimal for gaining muscle?
« Reply #75 on: October 06, 2013, 08:55:14 AM »
Sorry, just read your post. Yeah, BIG difference BTW T-3 and T-4.

You gotta go real easy on T-3 and you HAVE TO KNOW how much you are taking. You pyramid and drop. If it's T-4, that is much less potent. Mixing the two is serious.

T-3 by itself works fantastic at very small doses unless you are thyroid deficient.

Another problem is that you may have had a hyper thyroid and a fast metabolism prior to taking the stuff. These things have to be investigated prior, otherwise... well, you could wind up in an ER.



Don't most guys nowadays try to mimick a physiological ratio of 4:1?

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Re: What Bodyfat % is optimal for gaining muscle?
« Reply #76 on: October 06, 2013, 11:23:13 AM »
Sorry, just read your post. Yeah, BIG difference BTW T-3 and T-4.

You gotta go real easy on T-3 and you HAVE TO KNOW how much you are taking. You pyramid and drop. If it's T-4, that is much less potent. Mixing the two is serious.

T-3 by itself works fantastic at very small doses unless you are thyroid deficient.

Another problem is that you may have had a hyper thyroid and a fast metabolism prior to taking the stuff. These things have to be investigated prior, otherwise... well, you could wind up in an ER.



actually, i'm hypo-thyroid... or "was" hypo-thyroid since '03, which is odd, since now my t4/tsh is in the low-end of 'normal' (those things usually don't correct themselves), and even before that I've always had a fast metabolism. was prescribed t4, but got sick of doing the bloodwork every 4-6 months and having the dr play with the dosage.. so I just 'self-medicated' with research-grade t4, which turned out to be high dose t3. should've known better, since the same guy was well-known for overdosing his stuff (40mcg clen of his felt like 200mcg). i'd used 100mcg pharma t3 in the past when getting ready for shows or when working an Expo (01-03), but this stuff's effects were wayyyyy more profound than the 100mcg I used back then. i'd estimate 150-200mcg/day +

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Re: What Bodyfat % is optimal for gaining muscle?
« Reply #77 on: October 06, 2013, 11:30:34 AM »
Gear is optimal for gaining muscle.

If you're maxed out naturally or on certain doses, better to be happy with what you got and stay lean and look good or take more muscle building asteroids.




totaly agree...

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Re: What Bodyfat % is optimal for gaining muscle?
« Reply #78 on: October 06, 2013, 05:05:04 PM »
actually, i'm hypo-thyroid... or "was" hypo-thyroid since '03, which is odd, since now my t4/tsh is in the low-end of 'normal' (those things usually don't correct themselves), and even before that I've always had a fast metabolism. was prescribed t4, but got sick of doing the bloodwork every 4-6 months and having the dr play with the dosage.. so I just 'self-medicated' with research-grade t4, which turned out to be high dose t3. should've known better, since the same guy was well-known for overdosing his stuff (40mcg clen of his felt like 200mcg). i'd used 100mcg pharma t3 in the past when getting ready for shows or when working an Expo (01-03), but this stuff's effects were wayyyyy more profound than the 100mcg I used back then. i'd estimate 150-200mcg/day +

Kinda scary dude. Glad U R still around to talk about it.  :P


I don't usually talk to anyone about T-3 ~ excluding the forum of course. Drug is potent. In a way it carries a big risk just like our friend, Rat Poison (DNP) ~ people always have this mentality in the gym "if a little is good, more is better" ~ My philosophy is exactly the opposite.


http://health.dir.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/hypothyroid/conversations/topics/7985


The 1 to 4 Ratio is correct ~