Author Topic: There will be stock market crash soon...And the dollar will be devalued 40%  (Read 14012 times)

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People who have very little are always hoping and warning that the sky is falling.

Yep and even though they have no investments they suddenly become financial experts and tell everyone to sell. Meanwhile, actual rich people buy more and more investments when the market is down so when it goes back up they make a fortune.  8)

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 Listen to Walter, people

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This one will be ugly and blamed on an event but it's been coming because of the QE unlimited and the QEs prior to the Unlimited. This house of cards is ready to come crashing down for real this time. This will make the 2008 one look like a joke. In reality our true debt to GDP is somewhere around 500% It doesn't matter that we are the reserve currency, this is why other countries are buying gold and getting rid of dollars for other strong currencies. This is why billionaires have all recently dumped their stocks. This is why you see FEMA camps and militarized police. Because they know it's coming and they know how "krunk" Americans can get. So whether you like it or not, this is how they have do deal with American badasses. Imagine paying almost $10 for a gallon of milk because the dollar is shit. And that's just the 40% devaluation in the beginning. Once that happens all countries will get rid of their dollars and our dollars will be worthless. Meaning, you're fucked.

And that's my tinfoil hat article of the week.

if this happens people will riot, destroy and kill all congress, there wont be a government again

this is not going to happen
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Buffett was weeks from claiming bankruptcy in 2008 when everything fell apart.  The net value of his precious Berkshire Hathaway lost 50-60% like many others did.  TPTB put him on CNBC everyday to pump the markets.  He does not "invest" in financial companies unless he has a 5-10% coupon and 100% government backing.  He's nothing more than a bankster shill.

BOOM.
Ole' Grandpa Warren had to go on TV and extort the govt (and by extension the American people) by saying that he was pumping money into buying bank stocks because he knew the govt. would never, ever, ever not bail them out.

This guy is a total piece of shit fraud.

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You are one soft sonofabitch. What is your educational level?
A specialization in zerohedge.com with a degree in google.com.

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BOOM.
Ole' Grandpa Warren had to go on TV and extort the govt (and by extension the American people) by saying that he was pumping money into buying bank stocks because he knew the govt. would never, ever, ever not bail them out.

This guy is a total piece of shit fraud.
The people that worked at American International Group, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Countrywide Financial, Washington Mutual, Wachovia, Northern Rock might disagree with you.

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It is a fact the 1% are slowly but surely preparing for something and dont want to alarm the masses. But...it has always been the same.

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A specialization in zerohedge.com with a degree in google.com.

dont forget a PhD in sucking at life, hth

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why is that losers like to fantasize so much about apocalyptic shit? Is that because their lives suck so bad that cant stand it but they are too corward to commit suicide so they wish the world would just end for once and for all?



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People with stuff in stocks will lose everything.

Wrong!

A share of stocks represent a fractional ownership in a company.  The intrinsic value of a company only changes if the earnings power of the company changes. Most companies are reporting record earnings right now and that's unlikely to change over the next five years.

Stocks are a better investment than bonds because most of a companies earnings are retained by the company.  A shareholders return on the retained earnings is equal to the companies return on capital.  For example Exxon has a return on capital of 25 percent.  Where else are you going to get a 25 percent return on capital?

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Actually I'm not a Christian. Although I am a follower of Christ. You sound like a typical idiot. Carry on.

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It is a fact the 1% are slowly but surely preparing for something and dont want to alarm the masses. But...it has always been the same.

The prep is for the end of the QE program and the unprecedented zero interest rate policy of the fed.  Just the notion that this program will end has sent long term rates up.  This program has also inflated the stock market due to low interest rates and lack of investment options. Irrational exuberance never has a happy ending.

 For the most part Americans are financially illiterate and if you ask them what there 401k is invested in they look at you with a blank stare.  This is why people get crushed when the market drops in dramatic fashion or they lose money in their bond funds.

This QE program has been flawed from the start. The value of U.S. Treasuries has been maintained by the Fed’s willingness to print dollars to buy more Treasuries thus creating a non market $85 or so billion a month demand for such securities. Remove that demand and the price of Treasuries drops and yields rise.  Thus, the value of U.S. Treasuries AND the dollar have been backed by the Fed’s willingness to print dollars to support the dollar because if the U.S. Treasury market collapses, so does the value of the dollar.

The Fed has already created massive economic damage through their QE program (for a part time recovery) for which the economic consequences will be paid if they continue QE or if they stop it.  It's a no win at this point and in my opinion the fed will lose control of interest rates one way or another.

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Realize this: Every day is a new day.  Every moment currently is now a moment in the past never to return.

Nobody on this board controls anything. Anything can happen at any time without you or I planning it. We just deal with whatever comes our way when it comes. Anything prior to that is pretty much a waste.

Worry much? Why?

Will all of the worry in the world change any future events or circumstances?

Deal with today. 24 hours is what we were given because it's all we can handle.

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The people that worked at American International Group, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Countrywide Financial, Washington Mutual, Wachovia, Northern Rock might disagree with you.

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The prep is for the end of the QE program and the unprecedented zero interest rate policy of the fed.  Just the notion that this program will end has sent long term rates up.  This program has also inflated the stock market due to low interest rates and lack of investment options. Irrational exuberance never has a happy ending.

 For the most part Americans are financially illiterate and if you ask them what there 401k is invested in they look at you with a blank stare.  This is why people get crushed when the market drops in dramatic fashion or they lose money in their bond funds.

This QE program has been flawed form the start. The value of U.S. Treasuries has been maintained by the Fed’s willingness to print dollars to buy more Treasuries thus creating a non market $85 or so billion a month demand for such securities. Remove that demand and the price of Treasuries drops and yields rise.  Thus, the value of U.S. Treasuries AND the dollar have been backed by the Fed’s willingness to print dollars to support the dollar because if the U.S. Treasury market collapses, so does the value of the dollar.

The Fed has already created massive economic damage through their QE program (for a part time recovery) for which the economic consequences will be paid if they continue QE or if they stop it.  It's a no win at this point and in my opinion the fed will lose control of interest rates one way or another.


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if this happens people will riot, destroy and kill all congress, there wont be a government again

this is not going to happen
nah, sheeps wont do shit and will adapt depending of what they have. Actually the situation worldwide will take a long time to rot. The real cold hard truth is that times will be tough for a lot of people for a long time, then after years, maybe a decade of people getting frustrated beyond what they can take, then things will get bloody.  People will still have their material stuff for a while, so they wont complain. I repeat, this scenario has happened countless times in the past, and humans always react the same way, whatever the era; they need to lose everything first to "rebel".  People have been conditioned for 2 or 3 generations to a peaceful, hypocritical life centered around material goods. It s the sons and grandsons of current people in their 20/30s who will have it bad. You have to see long term. It must be pretty hard for someone who s uneducated , has no spiritual interests at all and doesnt have or plan on having an offspring tho. 99% of people on earth only care about tomorow and that's about it. There s a reason why there is a 1% and a 99%.
I said it and I ll say it again, as long as you dont have kids, you only understand 50% of what life is really about. We are in for a slow but steep decay in living conditions for a lot of people for at least 2 or 3 decades. Then of this I am sure, wars will follow. You can control your anger, but you can't control the anger of your grandgrand sons who arent  born yet but will deal with much much heavier shit that we do today. They ll probably have many reasons to wish for a war in 2 or 3 decades from now because obviously some major geopolitical events will occur following the economic collapse. I m in my 30s, and think we wont see the big one -maybe the ones who will live to their 100s- , but we will see everything that will lead to it. What has to be done to prepare yourself and offspring for it have always bee the same.

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Wrong!

A share of stocks represent a fractional ownership in a company.  The intrinsic value of a company only changes if the earnings power of the company changes. Most companies are reporting record earnings right now and that's unlikely to change over the next five years.

Stocks are a better investment than bonds because most of a companies earnings are retained by the company.  A shareholders return on the retained earnings is equal to the companies return on capital.  For example Exxon has a return on capital of 25 percent.  Where else are you going to get a 25 percent return on capital?




Record earnings from some companies due to cost cutting, layoffs, reduced inventory etc...but no new revenue from most companies...which means no real growth, no added value, a fake QE pumped up bubble market.

Only offering returns in the market through artificially low interest rates on savings, suppressing price of gold and silver, not loaning on investment real estate, etc is keeping everyone's money in the market. There's a reason for that.

Bond market will be wrecked because they have hands in that also. What goes up must come down. It's that simple. Getting a 25% return means nothing if you don't get to keep it when the market corrects by at least that amount. In one word what is going on is unsustainable.

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Lol businesses survived cause they fired tons of people, people who werent even recorded by so called official statisticians. And there s no re industrialization of north america either.

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This one will be ugly and blamed on an event but it's been coming because of the QE unlimited and the QEs prior to the Unlimited. This house of cards is ready to come crashing down for real this time. This will make the 2008 one look like a joke. In reality our true debt to GDP is somewhere around 500% It doesn't matter that we are the reserve currency, this is why other countries are buying gold and getting rid of dollars for other strong currencies. This is why billionaires have all recently dumped their stocks. This is why you see FEMA camps and militarized police. Because they know it's coming and they know how "krunk" Americans can get. So whether you like it or not, this is how they have do deal with American badasses. Imagine paying almost $10 for a gallon of milk because the dollar is shit. And that's just the 40% devaluation in the beginning. Once that happens all countries will get rid of their dollars and our dollars will be worthless. Meaning, you're fucked.

And that's my tinfoil hat article of the week.
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I like your sense of humor.   But just in case you are not joking:

1. The US debt to GDP ratio is 73%.  What is your evidence that it it 500%?

2. Other countries are buying MORE dollars.  They are snapping up Treasuries in spite of the threat of default.  That's why interest rates have dipped down lately.  When the price of a bond goes up, its yield goes down. 

3. Gold is dropping in price - down $300 an ounce year to date.

I'm not saying that we're in a great situation these days.  

But when I do weed I get more optimistic.  Try a different strain, perhaps.

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Bet your account that it doesnt happen.

Of course you wont make that wager because you don't even believe half the shit you say.
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Wrong!

A share of stocks represent a fractional ownership in a company.  The intrinsic value of a company only changes if the earnings power of the company changes. Most companies are reporting record earnings right now and that's unlikely to change over the next five years.

Stocks are a better investment than bonds because most of a companies earnings are retained by the company.  A shareholders return on the retained earnings is equal to the companies return on capital.  For example Exxon has a return on capital of 25 percent.  Where else are you going to get a 25 percent return on capital?

Exxon is giving you 25% return on investment?

How are yoiu doing that with a 2-3% dividend yield? 

Exxon is an excellent stock, don't get me wrong.  But where the fuck does 25% come from?

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Wrong!

A share of stocks represent a fractional ownership in a company.  The intrinsic value of a company only changes if the earnings power of the company changes. Most companies are reporting record earnings right now and that's unlikely to change over the next five years.

Stocks are a better investment than bonds because most of a companies earnings are retained by the company.  A shareholders return on the retained earnings is equal to the companies return on capital.  For example Exxon has a return on capital of 25 percent.  Where else are you going to get a 25 percent return on capital?

Wake up dude... you own NOTHING but a piece of paper.

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Wake up dude... you own NOTHING but a piece of paper.

That means the night janitors, enabled if need be by the Second Amendment, can seize a building as their own and hold it for as long as their ammunition holds out.  Since if legal documents become meaningless, possession becomes ownership.

That might generate a bit of a hiccup in the real estate market.


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Thing with these bullshit predicitons is that there is no conseuqence for being wrong. And what do u mean by 'soon' anyway? Be as concrete as possible so you have no BS excuse a la 'spiritual awakening of 2012' as your means of escaping the inevitable butt rape assault by team getbig
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