Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law

[Big Chiro Flex]

Sorry guys no PTPS as I can't figure out a decent way of asking my mother in law for these 

Here it goes:

She's been dieting on a crash style diet for 5 weeks (why didn't she listen to me lol) and dropped her calorie intake from around 2200 to only 1000 per day!

Obviously she lost a shit load of water weight the first couple of weeks, and for the last 3 a good amount of bodyfat - but as you can guess her weight loss has now completely stopped.

Her current daily (shitt) diet is currently something like this:

1. Breakfast - small bowl of Special K cereal & apple - 300kcals
2. Snack - cereal bar - 100kcals
3. Lunch - crackers with cream cheese - 250 kcals
4. Dinner - small plate of whatever she's cooking - no more than 400-500 kcals

I have a good idea how to remedy this and kick start the metabolism back, then put her on a higher intake (1400-500) lower the carbs and raise the protein/fats.

Any input would be appreciated as I said I would ask you guys for her

I don't fall under the "diet guru" category, but ....

her diet seems completely carb-centric.

Keto type diets suck, but they WORK, especially for women since I firmly believe almost ALL women can not tolerate carbohydrates. 8 weeks on a keto and Nana Cyp will be one lean mean Grandma.

[ProudVirgin69]

I don't fall under the "diet guru" category, but ....

her diet seems completely carb-centric.

Keto type diets suck, but they WORK, especially for women since I firmly believe almost ALL women can not tolerate carbohydrates. 8 weeks on a keto and Nana Cyp will be one lean mean Grandma.

I think that's unrealistic for almost any non-bodybuilder.   Not saying you're wrong, but she won't wanna stick to it.... it's hell trying to get a woman to eat more protein.

EDIT: except for protein straight from the tap

[Big Chiro Flex]

I think that's unrealistic for almost any non-bodybuilder.   Not saying you're wrong, but she won't wanna stick to it.... it's hell trying to get a woman to eat more protein.

EDIT: except for protein straight from the tap

I don't agree. Theres millions who do/have done Atkins variations. I got my father inlaw on a keto + 1 cheat meal a week4 months ago and he's down 24lbs, with ZERO exercise.

If anything its one of the simpler protocols. Protein + fats....very easy to shop/cook for.

[Disgusted]

Sorry guys no PTPS as I can't figure out a decent way of asking my mother in law for these  

Here it goes:

She's been dieting on a crash style diet for 5 weeks (why didn't she listen to me lol) and dropped her calorie intake from around 2200 to only 1000 per day!

Obviously she lost a shit load of water weight the first couple of weeks, and for the last 3 a good amount of bodyfat - but as you can guess her weight loss has now completely stopped.

Her current daily (shitt) diet is currently something like this:

1. Breakfast - small bowl of Special K cereal & apple - 300kcals
2. Snack - cereal bar - 100kcals
3. Lunch - crackers with cream cheese - 250 kcals
4. Dinner - small plate of whatever she's cooking - no more than 400-500 kcals

I have a good idea how to remedy this and kick start the metabolism back, then put her on a higher intake (1400-500) lower the carbs and raise the protein/fats.

Any input would be appreciated as I said I would ask you guys for her

Very simple. First she needs to eat real food and not this processed chemical laden crap. Keep her at 1500 for a while and see how it goes once you change her food around. Teach her how to weigh her food so she knows how to add up the calories. Keep it as simple as possible. Keep her carbs at around 30%, you do not have to be exact with this part.

[Shockwave]

Start putting t3 in her breakfast.
problem solved.

[jwb]

Balanced meal every 3-4 hours.

1 small serve protein (2 eggs, steak, chicken)
1 small serve starchy carb (one piece whole grain bread, small serve rice, small potato)
Unlimited fibrous carbs (cauliflower, broccoli, salad vegetables)

Small pieces of fruit as snacks

Lots of water between meals.

She can eat 5 times per day but they have to be pretty small meals.

[CalvinH]

Tell her to read GB and see how fatty's are treated here

[Wolfox]

I keep falling into this trap myself. No matter what anyone says, eyeballing portions and kcals DOES NOT WORK.

Yup. After i started weighing my food and including EVERYTHING into myfitnesspal it showed my previous estimates were off by almost 400 calories daily.

[ProudVirgin69]

I don't agree. Theres millions who do/have done Atkins variations. I got my father inlaw on a keto + 1 cheat meal a week4 months ago and he's down 24lbs, with ZERO exercise.

If anything its one of the simpler protocols. Protein + fats....very easy to shop/cook for.

It's simple & effective--no argument here.  But adherence to the diet is very low, research backs this up...

It's probably easier for men stick to, since they eat more meat/cheese/nuts than women.  But imagine telling granny no bread, no cereal in the morning, no pasta w dinner, no cake on Sundays.... she'd freak out. Plus it's very tough to eat out and find something keto-friendly.

Zone diet is my blanket recommendation for the average individual who's willing to make an effort, but even that's too much portion measuring for a lot of people.  Weight Watchers takes all the guesswork out and is the easiest to stick to for the average person.

I think its great that your in-law has had success with the keto diet, but could you honestly imagine telling your grandma that she can only eat green veggies, meat, & fats--and her sticking to it?

[Big Chiro Flex]

It's simple & effective--no argument here.  But adherence to the diet is very low, research backs this up...

It's probably easier for men stick to, since they eat more meat/cheese/nuts than women.  But imagine telling granny no bread, no cereal in the morning, no pasta w dinner, no cake on Sundays.... she'd freak out. Plus it's very tough to eat out and find something keto-friendly.

Zone diet is my blanket recommendation for the average individual who's willing to make an effort, but even that's too much portion measuring for a lot of people.  Weight Watchers takes all the guesswork out and is the easiest to stick to for the average person.

I think its great that your in-law has had success with the keto diet, but could you honestly imagine telling your grandma that she can only eat green veggies, meat, & fats--and her sticking to it?

Im admittedly sometimes  not very empathetic  

It is crazy to me how people get THAT out of shape and are ok with going about their life; I have trouble understanding why everyone wouldn't want to do whatever it takes to get healthy and look and feel good everyday. I forget sometimes that average people have average goals and average discipline in THIS area. I need to be more empathetic, you are right bro. My approach and philosophy is to go all in and change people's lives and lifestyles...admittedly a bit over zealous at times  

Literally all of my family members are extremely healthy...virtually zero health problems (rare for an average American family) so I haven't faced the situation of dealing with family members who have lifestyle issues that need to be addressed.

[ProudVirgin69]

I was a personal trainer for 2 years so I've had my hopes of people sticking to any kind of strict diet smashed over & over again   even an IIFYM type of deal was too hard for people
 
Portion control is the most you can expect out of people.... something akin to the Adonis principles.  Which is basically what weight watchers does.  Plus they make it super easy with a comprehensive app.

It's great that your family stays fit n healthy though....but like you say, most don't care.  Probably the main reason i stopped training--I hated seeing my passion&hard work get ignored and trampled on

[el numero uno]

Put her on dj181's diet.

[Cleanest Natural]

I would have her eat lean meats, bitter green veggies and a little omega 3 fats. She will detox from carb addiction, she will feel a LOT better, more energetic, more focused, lighter, her skin will improve and she will lose fat. This is what I do with my clients and my success rate for the past 2 years is close to 90% meaning the ocassional person who would quit or cheat became more and more obsolete. If she manages the first 10 days the rest is easier.

[Big Chiro Flex]

I would have her eat lean meats, bitter green veggies and a little omega 3 fats. She will detox from carb addiction, she will feel a LOT better, more energetic, more focused, lighter, her skin will improve and she will lose fat. This is what I do with my clients and my success rate for the past 2 years is close to 90% meaning the ocassional person who would quit or cheat became more and more obsolete. If she manages the first 10 days the rest is easier.

I second this.

[bigmc]

I would have her eat lean meats, bitter green veggies and a little omega 3 fats. She will detox from carb addiction, she will feel a LOT better, more energetic, more focused, lighter, her skin will improve and she will lose fat. This is what I do with my clients and my success rate for the past 2 years is close to 90% meaning the ocassional person who would quit or cheat became more and more obsolete. If she manages the first 10 days the rest is easier.

good advice sev

[cephissus]

thirding sev's advice



lbs and lbs of spiced, sauteed chicken (if you had target in the uk, i'd recommend archer farms damn are their blends good), steamed broccoli

rinse and repeat

[Cleanest Natural]

Managing portion control is a.myth. When it comes to carba, eating a little only is like staying naked with a hot girl and saying "let me rub a little the tip of the cock on your hot pussy nothing more"

[DroppingPlates]

Put her on dj181's diet.

I'm not sure if she strives for the concentration camp look..

[liberty]

Haven't heard this word yet ------------> Exercise 

[DroppingPlates]

Haven't heard this word yet ------------> Exercise 

My suggestion, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training

[el numero uno]

Managing portion control is a.myth. When it comes to carba, eating a little only is like staying naked with a hot girl and saying "let me rub a little the tip of the cock on your hot pussy nothing more"

I agree, you eat some carbs and then you appetite goes crazy. If I keep eating only veggies, including some legumes, I can be hungry as hell but my appetite is close to zero. Of course everything goes to hell when you go out with family/gf/friends, you eat carbs again and a couple hours after that you're in home eating everyting you come across.

[ProudVirgin69]

Managing portion control is a.myth. When it comes to carba, eating a little only is like staying naked with a hot girl and saying "let me rub a little the tip of the cock on your hot pussy nothing more"

So is the idea that the only way to lose weight and stay slim is through a low carb diet.  Billions of people around the world eat diets of +50% carbs and are not overweight.  Rice is the most consumed food on the planet.

[Shockwave]

thirding sev's advice



lbs and lbs of spiced, sauteed chicken (if you had target in the uk, i'd recommend archer farms damn are their blends good), steamed broccoli

rinse and repeat

spices and recipie for sautéing please.

I usually bake garlicnand herb chicken, or use a pre made bbq dry rub.... but I need to change shit up.  Getting bored.

[The Revelation]

a lot of bullshit 'clean macros' and 'clean carbs' advise here. the fuck does eating 'clean' have to do with anything? eat less. period.

shes not being truthful about her cal intake. its thats simple. in that much of a deficit you have to lose weight. the whole 'metabolsim stalled out' is bullshit. servere enough deficit= weight loss. someone said eyeballing cals is the devil- bang on. that shit will sabotage you in no time. you'll be hungry all the time, and not losing weight. double fail.

also send her to the doc to get her thyroid checked. this could be a large part of not just her inablity to lose weight, but the reasonn for the weight gain in the first place.

as for diet, you cant make a normal person eat like us. it will not work. they wont count carbs and protein and cook foods outside what they know and stick to it. best way to get a non trainer sedentary person to lose weight is to cut out the garbage foods, run a deficit, and walk for exercise. diets dont work. lifestyle changes will.

[bigmc]

a lot of bullshit 'clean macros' and 'clean carbs' advise here. the fuck does eating 'clean' have to do with anything? eat less. period.

shes not being truthful about her cal intake. its thats simple. in that much of a deficit you have to lose weight. the whole 'metabolsim stalled out' is bullshit. servere enough deficit= weight loss. someone said eyeballing cals is the devil- bang on. that shit will sabotage you in no time. you'll be hungry all the time, and not losing weight. double fail.

also send her to the doc to get her thyroid checked. this could be a large part of not just her inablity to lose weight, but the reasonn for the weight gain in the first place.

as for diet, you cant make a normal person eat like us. it will not work. they wont count carbs and protein and cook foods outside what they know and stick to it. best way to get a non trainer sedentary person to lose weight is to cut out the garbage foods, run a deficit, and walk for exercise. diets dont work. lifestyle changes will.

you give up on the bustin ass account