DOCTORS NOTE to send a packed lunch to school

[240 is Back]

yup I knew the typical liberal shit baggery would float to the top in this discussion.

"the kids, the kids, wont someone think about the CHILDREN!!!!"

if kids have allergies there needs to be rules about sharing lunches not preventing kids from bringing lunches. If parents cant afford to feed their kids there are programs to help with that, it shouldnt prevent anyone else from sending their child to school with a lunch. If they parents of that "starving child" arent smart enough to stand up and apply for the readily available assistance programs well that child has a shit load more issues facing them than lunch...

you libtard morons will justify anything

I dont think anyone is justifying the a-hole policy of the original post - doctors note.  That's crap and I think most know it.  Just plain stupid. Horrible policy.

As long as the school offers a skeleton lunch - milk, meat, some fruit - in addition to whatever can of Sprite and chips ahoy mom sends, it's fine.

[Primemuscle]

there is no justifiable way to tell someone they cant send their kids with thr lunch they want to feed their child. Encourage and education is one thing. But telling someone they cant choose what to feed thwir child is ridiculous and is the same kind of bullsbit that every tyrant in history has used to justify the oppression of freedom.

its no ones responsibility but the parents. If they fail, they fucking fail, its not up to the school or you or anyone else to decide what to feed themselves or their children.

fuck you and anyone else that thinks theyre somehow justified in telling others the right way to parent their children.

Apparently your comprehension skills are lacking. You're response is so over-the-top with regards to what I posted. Maybe your parents didn't feed you right and it messed up your thought processes.

[tonymctones]

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So you think feeding a human child poor nutrition when we know the consequences is not justifying telling the person about such a poor choice. Listen good parenting isn't up the interpreter there are basic things, like feed, cloth and care for the child

and what does that have to do with not being able to send a child to school with a lunch moron?

[Shockwave]

Apparently your comprehension skills are lacking. You're response is so over-the-top with regards to what I posted. Maybe your parents didn't feed you right and it messed up your thought processes.

Quite frankly I merely glossed over your post and my reply was only partially directed at you.

[Shockwave]

For an educational institution to enforce (teach) proper human (we are animal) nutrition is being a tyrant? Listen, people can do as they like but when we live in a collectivist society where poor eating habits effect the collective being (obesity, taxes). We teach people how to act appropriately in public ( indirectly inhibiting self expression) yet I doubt this is tyrant like. I think encourage but if the school is providing lunch it should be nothing but healthy, otherwise it;s a disservice.

I may have be misspoke or made a mistake because I was referring to the school.

Enforce and teach are 2 completely different things.

Saying that you support enforcing proper nutrition 8s a far cry from saying you support educating people on proper nutrition.

Enforce = using authority to force someone to follow a particular law or rule.

[Kim Jong Bob]

Here in scandinavia and i guess rest of the europe to we dont send lunch with the kids cause they get it at school. All eag the same food that is served besides those with allergies. They dont forbid people to send lunch with there kids but noone does it anyway cause its  not a problem the kids get what they need and everhone is happy. Never heard of one single complaint about the system, never. But thats just how we do and have done for a long time

[Roger Bacon]

Here in scandinavia and i guess rest of the europe to we dont send lunch with the kids cause they get it at school. All eag the same food that is served besides those with allergies. They dont forbid people to send lunch with there kids but noone does it anyway cause its  not a problem the kids get what they need and everhone is happy. Never heard of one single complaint about the system, never. But thats just how we do and have done for a long time

It's the same here, I would imagine 90% or more get the school lunch.

That's not the point though.

[Kim Jong Bob]

It's the same here, I would imagine 90% or more get the school lunch.

That's not the point though.

aha ok was under the impression that  0% had scool lunch. My bad carry on

[Shockwave]

Here in scandinavia and i guess rest of the europe to we dont send lunch with the kids cause they get it at school. All eag the same food that is served besides those with allergies. They dont forbid people to send lunch with there kids but noone does it anyway cause its  not a problem the kids get what they need and everhone is happy. Never heard of one single complaint about the system, never. But thats just how we do and have done for a long time

I have no problem as long as the parents have the option. We seem to have an obsession in this countey with telling parents how to raise their kids, and it rrally irritates me.

this goes for BOTH parties.

[Primemuscle]

Quite frankly I merely glossed over your post and my reply was only partially directed at you.

I see. What I don't get then, is why quote me if you aren't directing the post my way.

[240 is Back]

I dislike the parents that say "Don't be giving my kid any food, I'll feed him whatever I want" and then they send garbage.

What do you do in situations like that?  No allergies, no religious conflict - They just send Junior with beef jerky and a bottle of root beer for 1st grade on... and "it's my kid, I know better...."    No, you're a backwoods hillbilly dropout in Oklahoma... the state nutritionist went to school for a very long time to know what foods will make your kid grow and develop properly, and we're offering it for free.

I'm just glad no getbiggers have gone so extreme as to defend that.  Nutrition of kids is what's important, not some ego contest with "the system".

[Kim Jong Bob]

I have no problem as long as the parents have the option. We seem to have an obsession in this countey with telling parents how to raise their kids, and it rrally irritates me.

this goes for BOTH parties.

yeah i understand. Just said how it was here.

[Necrosis]

Enforce and teach are 2 completely different things.

Saying that you support enforcing proper nutrition 8s a far cry from saying you support educating people on proper nutrition.

Enforce = using authority to force someone to follow a particular law or rule.

Yes in school they should enforce it, it's an educational institution that should promote healthy eating. There is no reason to eat unhealthy except desire and want. Why should a school offer unhealthy options?

[240 is Back]

WAIT - rereading this... It's for PRE school?   That changes everything.   They're private companies.  For-profit.  They COST money to attend.  They're essentially DAYCARE centers.  Totally different from public schools.  

anyone who has had a kid in pre-school will know....

it's WAY easier to just have the dude scoop out chicken nuggets, corn and applasauce for 20 three-year-olds, than open up lunchables, watch for choking, stop the kids from fighting, etc etc.  Kids are a pain in the ass with lunches, and yeah, at 3-4 years old, they'll steal from each other.

and since pre-schools (at least in florida) are private businesses, not run by the state, well, I guess we can STFU about Obama hating on our rights and all that.  If you don't like it, take your $ to another pre-school.

[pedro01]

I think it may be an attempt to reduce allergic incidence which is problem, regardless a list of unacceptable foods based on allergies makes the most sense. I went to school with a girl who had to wear a face mask due to MCS, fish would send her into anaphylaxis.

Yeah -- because when I was at school - a few kids would always drop dead when I opened my sandwich box.

[Necrosis]

and what does that have to do with not being able to send a child to school with a lunch moron?

You make the connection genius. Fuck, besides encouraging people to make your argument for you, you also seem unable to think for yourself as well.

[tonymctones]

You make the connection genius. Fuck, besides encouraging people to make your argument for you, you also seem unable to think for yourself as well.

The point is shut in that there is no relevant connection to your ignorant rambling.

If has no bearing on why an individual shouldn't be allowed to brim their own lunch from home.

[Necrosis]

The point is shut in that there is no relevant connection to your ignorant rambling.

If has no bearing on why an individual shouldn't be allowed to brim their own lunch from home.

 

[tonymctones]

go ahead brain child, explain the relevance

[GigantorX]

I have no problem as long as the parents have the option. We seem to have an obsession in this countey with telling parents how to raise their kids, and it rrally irritates me.

this goes for BOTH parties.

It may seem inconsequential to some but that's how it starts. You strip away the power of the family and the parent to make decisions for their kids/family unit. Replace the family unit decision making power with that of a larger institution, i.e. the government. Soon after, more choice and decision making ability will be stripped away...

[Shockwave]

Yes in school they should enforce it, it's an educational institution that should promote healthy eating. There is no reason to eat unhealthy except desire and want. Why should a school offer unhealthy options?

Wow.......
You're basically saying that the state should be responsible for deciding what peoples children eat.

And yet you don't see the correlation with every dictator in history.

Sigh.

[Necrosis]

Wow.......
You're basically saying that the state should be responsible for deciding what peoples children eat.

And yet you don't see the correlation with every dictator in history.

Sigh.

Within the school? an institution of learning? No I don't see the correlation, I am saying that if you send your kid to a public school, they should do nothing but teach quality habits and enforce particular norms. For example you aren't allowed talking when others are talking in class, you are expected to be quiet and listen to the teacher, these are all infringements.  Should schools not enforce proper social etiquette, or is your outrage selective because it's food.

Stupid decisions shouldn't be glorified but vilified. I think feeding a kid a poor diet, knowing the consequences is tantamount to abuse. The states are seeing the fallout of this, rapid increases in mental disorders, developmental disorders like AHDD.

I am not suggesting they can't do it in their personal lives, but I do think school should strive for excellence and enforce proper social behaviour, maturity, nutrition and education.

I am being cheeky when I say I don't see the correlation, I do, however, teachers have to deal with these kids too and I see nothing but positives from proper nutrition. Could you give me an argument to the contrary based on fact not presupposed assumptions?

[avxo]

WAIT - rereading this... It's for PRE school?   That changes everything.   They're private companies.  For-profit.  They COST money to attend.  They're essentially DAYCARE centers.  Totally different from public schools.  

anyone who has had a kid in pre-school will know....

it's WAY easier to just have the dude scoop out chicken nuggets, corn and applasauce for 20 three-year-olds, than open up lunchables, watch for choking, stop the kids from fighting, etc etc.  Kids are a pain in the ass with lunches, and yeah, at 3-4 years old, they'll steal from each other.

and since pre-schools (at least in florida) are private businesses, not run by the state, well, I guess we can STFU about Obama hating on our rights and all that.  If you don't like it, take your $ to another pre-school.

I'll step up and argue that. Sure, Mom's decision to send soda and candy is bad nutritionally, but where do you draw the line?

Either parents are parents and have the right to make decisions for their children, or parents are just DNA donors and the child is the ward of the State. Choose which you prefer because you can't have your cake and eat it too.

It is ridiculous for a school to require a doctor's note for a packed lunch - at any age - or to force a kid to eat the crap that's being served ("pizza counts as a vegetable children!"). As a matter of fact it is ridiculous that schools would seek to undermine parental authority.

This isn't about who knows best. It's about whether parents are parents and about what that means.

[GigantorX]

I'll step up and argue that. Sure, Mom's decision to send soda and candy is bad nutritionally, but where do you draw the line?

Either parents are parents and have the right to make decisions for their children, or parents are just DNA donors and the child is the ward of the State. Choose which you prefer because you can't have your cake and eat it too.

It is ridiculous for a school to require a doctor's note for a packed lunch - at any age - or to force a kid to eat the crap that's being served ("pizza counts as a vegetable children!"). As a matter of fact it is ridiculous that schools would seek to undermine parental authority.

This isn't about who knows best. It's about whether parents are parents and about what that means.

In the eyes of normal/non-insane people it's wrong...but as I mentioned above, undermining and attempting to replace/discredit family authority and other traditional cultural authoritative structures is exactly what government seeks to do. Break the link and replace it.

[240 is Back]

I'll step up and argue that. Sure, Mom's decision to send soda and candy is bad nutritionally, but where do you draw the line?

Either parents are parents and have the right to make decisions for their children, or parents are just DNA donors and the child is the ward of the State. Choose which you prefer because you can't have your cake and eat it too.

It is ridiculous for a school to require a doctor's note for a packed lunch - at any age - or to force a kid to eat the crap that's being served ("pizza counts as a vegetable children!"). As a matter of fact it is ridiculous that schools would seek to undermine parental authority.

This isn't about who knows best. It's about whether parents are parents and about what that means.

We let parents spank kids, ground kids, take away their toys, as punishment.  But we don't allow parents to chop off their hands as punishment.

So yeah, we do "draw the line" somewhere.  We draw the line on EVERYTHING in society, and that's the nature of society - you need rules in place to keep people from robbing, killing one another.

What if mom sends cigs?  What if mom sends jack daniels?  What if mom sends a 5 pound bag of SUGAR and the kid just snorts it?  What if mom sends  cookies that expired ten years ago?

The point is.... eventually, ALL of us will agree at SOME point, it's okay to intervene.