what did the 70's guys really use?

[dj181]

deca and dbol in the off-season

primo and winny pre-contest

[d0nny2600]

Yeah plus a boat load of other stuff. Seriously......

[Overload]

Everything they could get their hands on, in massive amounts.

Many guys admit to taking 200+mg of Dbol and several CC's of Deca every day for extended periods.

I think they focused more on dieting most of the year and never got fat. 

The only person i've ever spoken to that was actually around these guys back then said they used shitloads of AAS and trained like animals.  Most guys didn't really believe in "cutting" drugs, but they did change up what they used pre-contest to try and look better.

[shrek]

Zane used lots of T3 long stretches .... Arnold used HGH the original human cadaver kind ... so you keep hoping we will say they took 20mg dbols ED only for contest prep

[Borracho]

flinstones  genetics are much better than frank zane's. Stil cant believe this guy is a legend, blows my mind

Someone's feeling good today 

[galeniko]

dj181 secretly hoping they only did orals, which is completely ridicuylous assumption, and then even more ridiculously thinking he can have the same results with only orals.

this is the purpose of this thread.redictable, boring, repetitive.

meanwhile,half his life has passed and hes nowhere near,nor will he be.

years of nonstop steroids and gh ABUSE might get him somewhere close.about a decade.

running only orals will only do 1 thing, get you hospitalized with liver failure eventualy.

dont believe it?carry on,then

[shrek]

They didn't use massive amounts as they do today nor were they on constantly.... some did cycle off half the year or would bridge/cruise

[Borracho]

Hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way flint. You look good there man, maybe you do have better genetics than zane what do I know. But don't you think you would make a stronger case for your point if you put up a pic at 4% bf, hairless and tanned in a glittery thong? (no homo)

[flinstones1]

Hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way flint. You look good there man, maybe you do have better genetics than zane what do I know. But don't you think you would make a stronger case for your point if you put up a pic at 4% bf, hairless and tanned in a glittery thong? (no homo)

HAAH

I was just partially trolling...the guy had a good look  but I mean there are black gym rats at the local ymca who destroy him in every city...and the dude is considered  One of the greatest bodybuilders of all time.  one of those wtf's

[Borracho]

HAAH

I was just partially trolling...the guy had a good look  but I mean there are black gym rats at the local ymca who destroy him in every city...and the dude is considered  One of the greatest bodybuilders of all time.  one of those wtf's

I know what you mean...in some poses he doesn't look impressive at all. He looks his best with arms in the air, with the body slightly tilted to the side. A lot of the praise he gets is just for being there during that era. He didn't have freaky size but as you mentioned, getting more tail before when "smaller" than what's the point of having freaky size...I don't know.

[galeniko]

lookng good there flintstone, youre graced with chest genetics where you can get away with being bit fatter than shredded and get away with it.


btw, everyone asks what the old school guys took for drugs.
 
but nobody asks what did they eat?what was their diets like?

dj181 you think they ate like you do?

[dj181]

again "diet" means almost nothing, and i still stand by that assertion

"diet" only means something with regards to overall calorie intake and getting enough protien which still ain't that much

here's the thing... i don't want to be as "big" as those guys even, so why the fuck would i take shitloads of gear

and here's a PROMISE (and yeah, please call me out on this, coz you will get badly owned )

i will have LEGIT RIPPED 17 inch arms @ 80 kg or less by the end of january

fyi, i had 14 1/3 inch arms @ 70 kg

soon...................

[dj181]

"shitloads of gear" is a relative term.

what determines how 'big' you get is food more than drugs. if you eat the same, you can take all the drugs you want and not get bigger... only leaner, denser, harder, grainy-er, vascular, freakier, ect...

if i "overeat" i just get fatter

if i increase training loads while eating in a slight surplus i get bigger without getting fatter

case in point... my hack squat has increased from 75 kg for 4 reps til failure to 105 kg for 5 reps til failure and my quads are bigger, no question about it

now if i just ate more and didn't increase my training loads then i would have just gotten fatter

training IS KEY, progressive training in fact

lift the same loads and keep the same size muscles, lift heavier loads and gain larger muscles

[Borracho]

Hey dj did you see this one?

[Mr Nobody]

All you need to eat is enough slightly over Calorie maintenance for your body weight to maintain a positive nitrogen balance to gain size overeating will just be fat that you have to lose later. Train as heavy as you can and keep workouts to a minimum due to recovery being a key in gaining muscle. If we didnt have to go heavier then everyone could just gain on 100 lb bench presses for years.

[dj181]

All you need to eat is enough slightly over Calorie maintenance for your body weight to maintain a positive nitrogen balance to gain size overeating will just be fat that you have to lose later. Train as heavy as you can and keep workouts to a minimum due to recovery being a key in gaining muscle. If we didnt have to go heavier then everyone could just gain on 100 lb bench presses for years.

yep

and to B, nice jab at me, jealousy is a real bitch ain't it

where's your progress pics holmes

[Borracho]

yep

and to B, nice jab at me, jealousy is a real bitch ain't it

where's your progress pics holmes

ahhahahaha

Now I remember why I don't take you serious.

Dj don't be cluttering our board with your autistic posts please go do that somewhere else.

[Borracho]

I don't mind your crap anywhere else but here dj...

Seriously considering talking to mods about voting to ban you from posting on this section like the Y did with shitsoul. Nothing good ever comes from you posting on this board...

[dj181]

ahhahahaha

Now I remember why I don't take you serious.

Dj don't be cluttering our board with your autistic posts please go do that somewhere else.

p.s. this "hahahahahaha" horseshit signifies my assumption was right

anyways, what the fuck are you talking about my posts cluttering the board dipshit

i said what my experience was and i talk about what i'm going to accomplish, and that's it, so show me where i attack others without being attacked first

here's the thing... i don't, but you and many others here sure as hell do

[Borracho]

p.s. this "hahahahahaha" horseshit signifies my assumption was right

anyways, what the fuck are you talking about my posts cluttering the board dipshit

i said what my experience was and i talk about what i'm going to accomplish, and that's it, so show me where i attack others without being attacked first

here's the thing... i don't, but you and many others here sure as hell do

Really busy right now but I'll break it down quick.

Its the repetitive bs you've been posting ever since you registered...a broken record that has never been replaced.

-talking about yourself as if anyone else cares
-training overload
-diet/crap
-mentzer calling you wildhorse over the telephone once
-"wifey" who was probably just a girl you dated a little bit back in 1993
-racial stuff
-the jm guy ...don't know his name, some powerlifter guy


Its all this bullshit, your autistic ass has been repeating to death. When you ask questions you do so for no reason other than to play that broken record.... boring and annoying everyone forced to listen to it.

Just do it somewhere else nobody wants it here.

[shrek]

X100

[galeniko]

Really busy right now but I'll break it down quick.

Its the repetitive bs you've been posting ever since you registered...a broken record that has never been replaced.

-talking about yourself as if anyone else cares
-training overload
-diet/crap
-mentzer calling you wildhorse over the telephone once
-"wifey" who was probably just a girl you dated a little bit back in 1993
-racial stuff
-the jm guy ...don't know his name, some powerlifter guy


Its all this bullshit, your autistic ass has been repeating to death. When you ask questions you do so for no reason other than to play that broken record.... boring and annoying everyone forced to listen to it.

Just do it somewhere else nobody wants it here.

you knwo when drunks repeat their stories 5 times in 15minutes?same with him.

its not so hard, can read arnolds book,then one would know what they took, how they trained and the diet,which i found most interesting.

gymrats ahve similiar drug use to these guys, they didnt realy use gh insulin, so itd make totaly sense to look up their diets.

using the diet of insulin and gh user will not be any good for a guy on just steroids

[flinstones1]

Really busy right now but I'll break it down quick.

Its the repetitive bs you've been posting ever since you registered...a broken record that has never been replaced.

-talking about yourself as if anyone else cares
-training overload
-diet/crap
-mentzer calling you wildhorse over the telephone once
-"wifey" who was probably just a girl you dated a little bit back in 1993
-racial stuff
-the jm guy ...don't know his name, some powerlifter guy


Its all this bullshit, your autistic ass has been repeating to death. When you ask questions you do so for no reason other than to play that broken record.... boring and annoying everyone forced to listen to it.

Just do it somewhere else nobody wants it here.

JM barkey or something,  famous powerlifter who invented the "JM" press.

[dj181]

Really busy right now but I'll break it down quick.

Its the repetitive bs you've been posting ever since you registered...a broken record that has never been replaced.

-talking about yourself as if anyone else cares
-training overload
-diet/crap
-mentzer calling you wildhorse over the telephone once
-"wifey" who was probably just a girl you dated a little bit back in 1993
-racial stuff
-the jm guy ...don't know his name, some powerlifter guy


Its all this bullshit, your autistic ass has been repeating to death. When you ask questions you do so for no reason other than to play that broken record.... boring and annoying everyone forced to listen to it.

Just do it somewhere else nobody wants it here.

yeah i get it, you don't agree with my training theories or diet, boo-fucking-hoo

and here's the thing dipshit, i respond with my assertions about what i can and will do AFTER someone talks shit to me, i don't just come out and say this out of nowhere dumbass

and thanks for calling me a liar shithead

[a_ahmed]

Go cry me a river. You guys are ruining this section. Go drama queen somewhere else seriously