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interesting points about virginia election..
« on: November 06, 2013, 08:14:31 AM »
The recent virginia gov election, although won by the dem, shows some disturbing indicators for the democratic party.
Mcauliffe was consistently up by double digits in polls and was expected to 'win easily' by 10-12 points. His conservative  opponent was said to symbolize the recent so called disasters of the tea party and republicans in general, who are supposed to be on the verge of extinction and irrelevency according to the media. Virgina has also been trending left in recent major elections. Lastly, mcauliffe outspent his opponent 10-1, having collected massive sums from out of state donors including Bloomberg, and had rallies held for him by no less than bill and hillary clinton, and president obama.

Yet despite all these factors, on election night he ended up trailing most of the evening, before catching up and winning by barely 2 points. Incredibly, the libertarian 3rd party candidate who was funded by a major obama donor in order to bleed votes from cuccineli, had his name on the ballot and got 7% of the vote, votes which otherwise would have given cuccinelli the win.

What we see here is the dem party going all out with fundraising, endorsements, efforts, and massively outspending the opponent, including funding and getting the name on the ballot of a 3rd party candidate, I mean totally blew their load on this election, and STILL just barely squeaked past someone considered a weak candidate from a dying party on the verge of irrelevency. Pretty telling if you ask me. Oh and lastly, fuck the democrats ;D

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 08:20:28 AM »
sour grapes much

you Repubs need to get better at suppressing the vote

that was their only hope in Virginia (i.e. low voter turnout) and Repubs werent even ashamed to admit it in public

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 08:22:39 AM »
sour grapes much

you Repubs need to get better at suppressing the vote

that was their only hope in Virginia (i.e. low voter turnout) and Repubs werent even ashamed to admit it in public

Care to actually acknowledge anything in the above post?

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 08:24:09 AM »
I did

your very last sentence


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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 08:29:50 AM »
I'm glad he won. It's just going to be another lib ran state that will go into the shitter. They have no one to blame but themselves but I'm sure they will find someone!

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 08:30:27 AM »
I did

your very last sentence



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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2013, 08:41:57 AM »
Had Cuch gotten more money and a few breaks he should have won by the same margine he lost. This was headed to a blow out until Obamacare began to tank. Its more worrisome for Dems then it should be for Repubs. He lost and thats not good ever but the dems ran two candidates and out spent him...
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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 08:57:06 AM »
Once again the Tea Baggers are tone deaf to the will of the people, even in their own party

If Virginia Repubs would have had a primary they would have chosen a better candidate and in fact ANYONE could and should have beat Mcauliffe but instead they gave the nomination to one of the most vile and poisonous teabaggers in the state and the usual donors said smell you later.   Repubs had no business losing that election yet the teabaggers snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 08:58:14 AM »
Had Cuch gotten more money and a few breaks he should have won by the same margine he lost. This was headed to a blow out until Obamacare began to tank. Its more worrisome for Dems then it should be for Repubs. He lost and thats not good ever but the dems ran two candidates and out spent him...

he got no money because many people in his own party didn't want him to the be candidate

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2013, 09:17:23 AM »
Once again the Tea Baggers are tone deaf to the will of the people, even in their own party

If Virginia Repubs would have had a primary they would have chosen a better candidate and in fact ANYONE could and should have beat Mcauliffe but instead they gave the nomination to one of the most vile and poisonous teabaggers in the state and the usual donors said smell you later.   Repubs had no business losing that election yet the teabaggers snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

He lost because an obama donor funded a 3rd party spoiler to bleed his votes. The amazing thing is is that if sarvis wouldn't have been on the ballot, cuccinelli would have WON. pretty crazy when you think about it, considering this was supposed to be a victory lap for the dems.
More people voted against mcauliffe than voted for him. With just the two real candidates on the ballot, cuccinelli wins 52-47.
. The implications of this election are very ominous for the dems

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2013, 09:22:20 AM »
Fast Terry underperformed and it shows ObamaCare is going to DESTROY the dems in 2014

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2013, 09:25:20 AM »
He lost because an obama donor funded a 3rd party spoiler to bleed his votes. The amazing thing is is that if sarvis wouldn't have been on the ballot, cuccinelli would have WON. pretty crazy when you think about it, considering this was supposed to be a victory lap for the dems.
More people voted against mcauliffe than voted for him. With just the two real candidates on the ballot, cuccinelli wins 52-47.
. The implications of this election are very ominous for the dems

same could be said about Cuccinelli and the libertarian candidate was also basically a protest vote

Mcauliffe was eminently beatable except when faced with teabagger

Dems are certainly going to face challenges in 2014 and 2016 but it's not going to be from teabaggers

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2013, 09:37:11 AM »
He lost because an obama donor funded a 3rd party spoiler to bleed his votes. The amazing thing is is that if sarvis wouldn't have been on the ballot, cuccinelli would have WON. pretty crazy when you think about it, considering this was supposed to be a victory lap for the dems.
More people voted against mcauliffe than voted for him. With just the two real candidates on the ballot, cuccinelli wins 52-47.
. The implications of this election are very ominous for the dems

That's not true at all.

Spoke to Sarvis last night... He is a true Libertarian.

He took votes from both of those clowns... If you think otherwise, then you are just fooling yourself.


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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2013, 09:55:05 AM »
It is common knowledge that those who voted libertarian were far more likey to vote for the tea party guy over the liberal democrat. The big-government socialist libs are pretty much the polar opposite of libertarian ideology. Sarvis took far more votes from cuccinelli than he took from mcauliffe. Without savis on the ballot as a spoiler, cuc actually would have WON

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2013, 09:57:07 AM »
That's not true at all.

Spoke to Sarvis last night... He is a true Libertarian.

He took votes from both of those clowns... If you think otherwise, then you are just fooling yourself.



Well - VA will have plenty of fun w Clintons' bag man.  The libertarians wont say dick while mccaullife does his far left bs.  This is why I rarely if ever vote 3rd party or like the liberaltarian party - they are a sham and never do dick to try to stop the leftist cabal. 

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2013, 10:22:54 AM »
It is common knowledge that those who voted libertarian were far more likey to vote for the tea party guy over the liberal democrat. The big-government socialist libs are pretty much the polar opposite of libertarian ideology. Sarvis took far more votes from cuccinelli than he took from mcauliffe. Without savis on the ballot as a spoiler, cuc actually would have WON

Well he didn't...  So there.

Well - VA will have plenty of fun w Clintons' bag man.  The libertarians wont say dick while mccaullife does his far left bs.  This is why I rarely if ever vote 3rd party or like the liberaltarian party - they are a sham and never do dick to try to stop the leftist cabal. 

Perhaps, but if you keep doing this... Then there will never be any alternative except the shit and more shit.

I just wanted Sarvis to get 10%... So the libertarians would be allowed in the debates next time, but no... People like you say "It's a wasted vote."

You get the government you deserve I guess.

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2013, 10:29:41 AM »
Sarvis was funded by an Obama bundler.   He was a left wing plant and many fell for it. 

Now they get the far left corrupt lib.  Great job as always by libertarians who now wont be heard from again.   

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/05/revealed-obama-campaign-bundler-helping-fund-libertarian-in-tight-va-gubernatorial-race



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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2013, 10:41:15 AM »
Sarvis was funded by an Obama bundler.   He was a left wing plant and many fell for it. 

Now they get the far left corrupt lib.  Great job as always by libertarians who now wont be heard from again.   

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/05/revealed-obama-campaign-bundler-helping-fund-libertarian-in-tight-va-gubernatorial-race




You'll forgive me for not really buying what the blaze is selling.

I don't believe a word of what Glenn Beck says about anything... This is a guy who was a liberal, then a "conservative", and is now a "libertarian".

Uh... No.

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2013, 10:44:30 AM »
You'll forgive me for not really buying what the blaze is selling.

I don't believe a word of what Glenn Beck says about anything... This is a guy who was a liberal, then a "conservative", and is now a "libertarian".

Uh... No.


The posted the link to FEC filings. 

Why else you think Obama wanted Cuuch to lose?  Because he was the first guy to go after ObamaCare and brought it to the court. 

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2013, 10:47:35 AM »
The posted the link to FEC filings. 

Why else you think Obama wanted Cuuch to lose?  Because he was the first guy to go after ObamaCare and brought it to the court. 

I can't believe you guys are still talking about ObamaCare.

Let's be clear... It sucks, but it's the law of the land and it ain't going NOWHERE.

And do you know why?

It's the Republicans own damn fault... They had YEARS to come up with a good healthcare plan after they shot down Clinton in the 90s and never did shit.

So now, when Obama has all the cards, they want to fight against it without any real alternative... Yeah... that makes sense.

Look, ObamaCare sucks ass, but it's something... which is more than the Republicans did for years!

Now you want to blame Obama for your loss in Va? Let me be clear... if the Republican didn't suck, there wouldn't have been an alternative to worry about.

But noooo... Your bud Cuccinelli is a complete Uber Right Wing Shill and loses... You can try to blame libertarians, but really, it's the Republicans own damn fault and you full well know it.


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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2013, 10:51:53 AM »
Fine - when McCaulliffe tries to enact the same type of gun laws in VA like Cuomo did - as he promised to do - lets see all those principled libertarians trying to stop it.   They wont.  Same w the black box in cars nonsense he is proposing.  Libertarians wont say a fucking word. 

Most libertarians politically are full of shit and only show up on election day as a spoiler for one party of the other. 

The GOP sucks, sure, no doubt - but when your actions serve solely to put the far left lib in office who is corrupt as the day is long like McCauliffe, principles all of a sudden to me sounds nothing but bs. 



I can't believe you guys are still talking about ObamaCare.

Let's be clear... It sucks, but it's the law of the land and it ain't going NOWHERE.

And do you know why?

It's the Republicans own damn fault... They had YEARS to come up with a good healthcare plan after they shot down Clinton in the 90s and never did shit.

So now, when Obama has all the cards, they want to fight against it without any real alternative... Yeah... that makes sense.

Look, ObamaCare sucks ass, but it's something... which is more than the Republicans did for years!

Now you want to blame Obama for your loss in Va? Let me be clear... if the Republican didn't suck, there wouldn't have been an alternative to worry about.

But noooo... Your bud Cuccinelli is a complete Uber Right Wing Shill and loses... You can try to blame libertarians, but really, it's the Republicans own damn fault and you full well know it.



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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2013, 10:58:53 AM »
"Incredibly, the libertarian 3rd party candidate who was funded by a major obama donor in order to bleed votes from cuccineli, had his name on the ballot and got 7% of the vote, votes which otherwise would have given cuccinelli the win."

This article makes the assumption that at least 80% of Libertarians would have voted Republican.

Libertarians want the govt to stay out of their business... and while the dems are socialist punks, the repubs do love to stick their nose in people's business when it comes to abortion, gay rights, and a lot of other issues.  And Repubs love war, which libertarians hate.  Repubs love to lock up drug offenders, while dems and libertarians are selling each other pot.  

So I guess what I'm asking is, "Do Libertarians choose Republican when they have to choose (D) or (R)?"  

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2013, 11:51:18 AM »
I'm glad he won. It's just going to be another lib ran state that will go into the shitter. They have no one to blame but themselves but I'm sure they will find someone!

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2013, 11:53:37 AM »
I'm glad he won. It's just going to be another lib ran state that will go into the shitter. They have no one to blame but themselves but I'm sure they will find someone!

Why do you stay in California if liberal run states suck so much, Joe?

I mean, you seem to be doing well in that terrible liberal run state right?

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Re: interesting points about virginia election..
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2013, 11:53:42 AM »
McAuliffe was a flawed candidate. He's a dick.

hugely flawed is probably still an understatement yet he wins over a teabagger

Repubs literally gave this election away to the Dems