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« on: November 21, 2013, 04:19:27 PM »

Is SOY good or bad, or okay?

Huh

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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 06:02:12 PM »

Is SOY good or bad, or okay?

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Good or bad for what?
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 06:09:02 PM »

I think there are much better choices out there.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2013, 06:10:55 PM »

I think there are much better choices out there.


For what?
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 06:31:08 PM »


For what?

In place of soy whether you want to use it for vegetarian purposes, protein purposes, estrogenic purposes, etc.

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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 07:20:03 PM »

In place of soy whether you want to use it for vegetarian purposes, protein purposes, estrogenic purposes, etc.




Okay, why do you think that? That's not a challenge, by the way; I'm curious what people think of soy.
IMO, soy's biggest detriment is that it is among the top GMO/engineered crops. I think it's estrogen effect on men is more than a little exaggerated.

I don't advocate any form of soy for the majority of protein intake for anyone, but I feel that it has fallen into that category of foods that are inaccurately assigned blanket statements of negativity.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 07:40:47 PM »


Good or bad for what?


Decent protein? Will it make me grow breasts? Nutritious?

Huh

Not to make it my main source, but are soy based food sources "okay" or should they be avoided?


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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2013, 07:41:38 PM »


Okay, why do you think that? That's not a challenge, by the way; I'm curious what people think of soy.
IMO, soy's biggest detriment is that it is among the top GMO/engineered crops. I think it's estrogen effect on men is more than a little exaggerated.

I don't advocate any form of soy for the majority of protein intake for anyone, but I feel that it has fallen into that category of foods that are inaccurately assigned blanket statements of negativity.

Yes, not concerned about GMO because any soy products I eat are organic.

I got some organic vegi burgers on sale that have lots of soy. I like the taste of them. Should I eat them?
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 07:44:10 PM »

if you want to look like a soft body skinny fat asian

EAT MORE SOY
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2013, 07:52:12 PM »

Yes, not concerned about GMO because any soy products I eat are organic.

I got some organic vegi burgers on sale that have lots of soy. I like the taste of them. Should I eat them?


I don't rate soy for supporting anabolism since it is not a complete protein; as with most plant-based proteins, soy lacks specific amino acids that carnivorous food sources possess.

It is certainly estrogenic in certain amounts. Personally, I believe the degree to which one is affected in this capacity is influenced by individual biochemistry (your own body's unique response), and the amount of soy consumed. Having a glass of soy milk per day will probably yield a negligible effect on most guys. Having a glass with every meal is a gray area. Relying on soy as your only protein source is the pinnacle of idiocy.
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2013, 08:16:31 PM »

if you want to look like a soft body skinny fat asian

That's what I was going for!  Grin


I don't rate soy for supporting anabolism since it is not a complete protein; as with most plant-based proteins, soy lacks specific amino acids that carnivorous food sources possess.

It is certainly estrogenic in certain amounts. Personally, I believe the degree to which one is affected in this capacity is influenced by individual biochemistry (your own body's unique response), and the amount of soy consumed. Having a glass of soy milk per day will probably yield a negligible effect on most guys. Having a glass with every meal is a gray area. Relying on soy as your only protein source is the pinnacle of idiocy.

Thank you sir, exactly what I wanted to know.
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2013, 02:56:47 AM »

Ok.
Estrogen=soy
Test= ??
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2013, 05:02:08 AM »

Ok.
Estrogen=soy
Test= ??

beef baby

buffalo...

deer

essentially any ruminant
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2013, 07:03:16 AM »

Ok.
Estrogen=soy
Test= ??

Test=saturated fats and cholesterol
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2013, 08:39:30 PM »

Soy: What's the Harm?

http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/soy_wth
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2013, 03:17:55 AM »

None of the supplement companies are running soy.

I just came across a study which stated that soy isoflavones inhibit creatine absorption by the body.
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2013, 10:25:57 AM »

Since over 90% of soy grown in the US is a GMO, it's reason enough to avoid it.  Lips sealed

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/18/soy-can-damage-your-health.aspx
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2013, 02:43:59 PM »

Since over 90% of soy grown in the US is a GMO, it's reason enough to avoid it.  Lips sealed

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/18/soy-can-damage-your-health.aspx



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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2013, 03:15:53 PM »


Buzzkill.

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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2013, 04:52:40 PM »

Troll


Hey, don't talk about Princess that way!
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2013, 05:04:56 PM »


Hey, don't talk about Princess that way!

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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2013, 07:26:41 PM »

Since over 90% of soy grown in the US is a GMO, it's reason enough to avoid it.  Lips sealed

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/18/soy-can-damage-your-health.aspx


Okay, didn't realize it was that bad!

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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2013, 03:17:37 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2013, 03:54:56 AM »



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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2013, 10:21:39 AM »

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