The problem with the new generation of immigrants

[Wiggs]

Yes all immigrants... The early ones assimilated. So maybe I should have said recent immigrants? Or those who refuse to assimilate?

I don't do any of those things btw ( cept watch football ) and I agree with most of what you said. It is our fault for allowing it to take place. But that leads back to if we didn't allow it ( the non assimilation ) we would be better off.

What exactly should they assimilate to? There is very little redeeming about this country. It's been destroyed from within. Now up is down, and wrong is right. These laws in place don't allow you to practice Americanism as it used to be practiced. There would need to be a new Americanism and they're making it for us...unfortunately. People are content doing what they;re doing and not having to answer to anyone for it. We all know this can't continue to go on without dire consequences. Some of which we are already seeing. Breakdown of marriage, the traditional family, gender roles, questioning of faith, fornication, abortion, social taboos becoming "normal". I can go on and on. This stuff was by design and if you try to tell people that, you have a tinfoil hat. Luckily, us tin foil hatters have began to look like prophets because what we said would happen is beginning to happen.

[Tito24]

[The True Adonis]

[Archer77]

Thats total bullshit.  Assimilation is at an all time high in American History, despite still being largely divided. All you have to do is look at historical demographics, but no.  You`d much rather believe a myth that fits your own pre-concieved conclusion based on thin air and nonsense.

What is your definition of assimilation?

Websites

: to adopt the ways of another culture : to fully become part of a different society, country, etc.

[Tito24]

[Thick Nick]

Thats total bullshit.  Assimilation is at an all time high in American History, despite still being largely divided. All you have to do is look at historical demographics, but no.  You`d much rather believe a myth that fits your own pre-concieved conclusion based on thin air and nonsense.

All I have to do is watch the news...

Where packs of wild monkey Nebrews are attacking white people and there is no mention of it, yet some Mexican kills a Nebrew and it's world news and blamed on the whites. Let's see... Illegal immigration so everything is in Spanish now? Can build a Mosque on ground zero?

The more you talk TA the more I realize you are full of shit.

[The True Adonis]

[Thick Nick]

do you mean like the first white settlers assimilated with native americans? would you like to see this type of 'assimilation' now? 

They weren't immigrants you jack ass. You need a country founded to have real immigration fool.

[Wiggs]

All I have to do is watch the news...

Where packs of wild monkey Nebrews are attacking white people and there is no mention of it, yet some Mexican kills a Nebrew and it's world news and blamed on the whites. Let's see... Illegal immigration so everything is in Spanish now? Can build a Mosque on ground zero?

The more you talk TA the more I realize you are full of shit.

I'll admit, I have noticed this phenomena of many black on white crimes being blacked out (no pun) in the media. It's obviously going on but its not like the blacks are getting off innocent. It's obviously to control the mindsets of people because we have an African President and they don't want a race war just yet. 

[Thick Nick]

What exactly should they assimilate to? There is very little redeeming about this country. It's been destroyed from within. Now up is down, and wrong is right. These laws in place don't allow you to practice Americanism as it used to be practiced. There would need to be a new Americanism and they're making it for us...unfortunately. People are content doing what they;re doing and not having to answer to anyone for it. We all know this can't continue to go on without dire consequences. Some of which we are already seeing. Breakdown of marriage, the traditional family, gender roles, questioning of faith, fornication, abortion, social taboos becoming "normal". I can go on and on. This stuff was by design and if you try to tell people that, you have a tinfoil hat. Luckily, us tin foil hatters have began to look like prophets because what we said would happen is beginning to happen.

We actually agree. Bankers are bad guys and unemployed protesters are heroes. It's backwards.

[Thick Nick]

Italians are smart. Post one of these about MUDs please.

[The True Adonis]

Immigrants of the past quarter-century have assimilated more rapidly than their counterparts of a century ago, even though they are more distinct from the native population upon arrival. The increase in the rate of assimilation among recently arrived immigrants explains why the overall index has remained stable, even though the immigrant population has grown rapidly.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/vigdor.htm

[Thick Nick]

Immigrants of the past quarter-century have assimilated more rapidly than their counterparts of a century ago, even though they are more distinct from the native population upon arrival. The increase in the rate of assimilation among recently arrived immigrants explains why the overall index has remained stable, even though the immigrant population has grown rapidly.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/vigdor.htm

Your talking about how fast they can get free shit, pay taxes, etc. OP was talking culture. Again you are full of shit.

[Archer77]

There was a cultural and historical consistency and unity between the European immigrants and the descendants of European immigrants that does not exist with the current group of immigrants.  They don't see us as them and we don't see them as us.  

There was a strong push toward assimilation where as today more value is placed on the preservation of ones native culture.  Not in a, I march in the St. Patty's Day parade kind of way but in much deeper sense that is encouraged by state and federal institutions.

[The True Adonis]

All I have to do is watch the news...

Where packs of wild monkey Nebrews are attacking white people and there is no mention of it, yet some Mexican kills a Nebrew and it's world news and blamed on the whites. Let's see... Illegal immigration so everything is in Spanish now? Can build a Mosque on ground zero?

The more you talk TA the more I realize you are full of shit.

Mosque at Ground Zero?  Sure I hate religion, but I think they should be free to express it.  What law are they breaking exactly?  They own the building.   Besides, two Mosques already existed prior to September 11th and the World Trade Center even had dedicated prayer rooms for Muslims.


I don`t understand what law they are breaking.  

[Archer77]

Immigrants of the past quarter-century have assimilated more rapidly than their counterparts of a century ago, even though they are more distinct from the native population upon arrival. The increase in the rate of assimilation among recently arrived immigrants explains why the overall index has remained stable, even though the immigrant population has grown rapidly.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/vigdor.htm

I'm trying to find the values they are using to determine rates of assimilation

[El Diablo Blanco]

More bullshit found online from you?  How about this?

IMMIGRANTS HAVE NOT ASSIMILATED WELL AND IT'S GETTING WORST- Anonymous

[The True Adonis]

Your talking about how fast they can get free shit, pay taxes, etc. OP was talking culture. Again you are full of shit.

I am? 


The report uses the assimilation index, a summary measure of the degree of similarity or difference between the foreign- and native-born populations in the United States. The assimilation index is computed using three sets of factors: economic (including employment and education indicators), cultural (including English language ability and intermarriage), and civic (including citizenship and military service). The report provides information on a composite index incorporating all three sets of factors, and component indices examining one set each.

[Thick Nick]

Mosque at Ground Zero?  Sure I hate religion, but I think they should be free to express it.  What law are they breaking exactly?  Besides, two Mosques already existed prior to September 11th and the World Trade Center even had dedicated prayer rooms for Muslims.


I don`t understand what law they are breaking.  

Who said laws? Man you really are dense. In the past a bunch of people who were in the minority wouldn't want to offend those around them. Now insensitivity and a big fuck you I'll build my mosque anywhere I want IS NON ASSIMILATION. To the tee.

If they wanted to be PART of America and not bring it down, they wouldn't even propose such non sense due to how offensive it is. You can't be this blind or unwilling to see what I mean.

[The True Adonis]

More bullshit found online from you?  How about this?

IMMIGRANTS HAVE NOT ASSIMILATED WELL AND IT'S GETTING WORST- Anonymous

Thats all good and well, but here are the Facts.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_76.htm#.Uo-F_uKmamQ

[Alex23]

It used to be, come to America to become American and assimilate but now they come to America and have no interest in American culture or the American way of life and refuse to assimilate and expect you to bend to their culture and accept them or else you're a racist.  This shit makes me sick.

X2.

But it's up to us, native or not to maintain this great culture.

[The True Adonis]

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_76.htm#.Uo-F_uKmamQ

Assimilation at its highest level in decades

Figure 2 displays the long-term trends in the assimilation index from 1980 to 2011. The figure shows trends in the composite assimilation index, which incorporates data on economic, civic, and cultural indicators, and component indices that consider sets of indicators in isolation. The composite index is always lower than the components. Logically, the algorithm used to predict whether an individual is native- or foreign-born is always more effective when it uses more information. The composite index uses the most information.

All measures, the composite and all components, have shown an increase in recent years. These trends are most obvious using cultural and civic indicators. Since the onset of recession, these two indices have increased steadily. The economic assimilation index, by contrast, fell during the recession, underscoring the particular vulnerability of immigrant families in the American economy. Economic assimilation shows an uptick, however, in the most recent data. The composite index now stands at 30, after spending more than two decades in the 20s.

All four measures now stand at levels that have not been exceeded since the 1980s. The degree of similarity between the foreign- and native-born populations is now higher than it has been in a generation.

[Thick Nick]

I am? 


The report uses the assimilation index, a summary measure of the degree of similarity or difference between the foreign- and native-born populations in the United States. The assimilation index is computed using three sets of factors: economic (including employment and education indicators), cultural (including English language ability and intermarriage), and civic (including citizenship and military service). The report provides information on a composite index incorporating all three sets of factors, and component indices examining one set each.

Going back to your other thread about facts...

Copy and pasting big blue text don't make it true. You find this on 4 tran with the pictures of the bombers?

[Archer77]

I am? 


The report uses the assimilation index, a summary measure of the degree of similarity or difference between the foreign- and native-born populations in the United States. The assimilation index is computed using three sets of factors: economic (including employment and education indicators), cultural (including English language ability and intermarriage), and civic (including citizenship and military service). The report provides information on a composite index incorporating all three sets of factors, and component indices examining one set each.

Interesting.  I'm reading up on the author right now.  One thing I notice is scant information about how immigrants identify themselves.  Do they feel a part of the larger culture?   Holding a job and speaking English are poor indicators of how much of an american an immigrant considers themselves.  I could move to Japan to work or seek an education but does that make me Japanese?

[The True Adonis]

Who said laws? Man you really are dense. In the past a bunch of people who were in the minority wouldn't want to offend those around them. Now insensitivity and a big fuck you I'll build my mosque anywhere I want IS NON ASSIMILATION. To the tee.

If they wanted to be PART of America and not bring it down, they wouldn't even propose such non sense due to how offensive it is. You can't be this blind or unwilling to see what I mean.

Oh the horror, Mosque building in New York, circa 1923.