More Crossfit Brilliance

[WOOO]

big snatch

[Krankenstein]

25lbs? That says a lot. It says inexperience and knows NOTHING about the progressions of strength training. Who made the decision to make that jump, her or her "coach"?

Yep Joe....in no other "lifting" sport/activity/recreation do we have people doing this.  There you go again with your whole "progressions of strength training" answer.  Why is it you glossed over Magoo's post?  When people fail on the platform like he posted...is that from inexeperience?  When someone tears a pec or injures their shoulder in a bench press meet, is that from inexperience or bad coaching?  I have said it a thousand time, you have a complete hard on for bashing.  You did it in the first post then denied it.  Are you going to again compare coaching to neurosurgery soon?

[rooseveltdunn]

Where did I dispute said condition?  Merely predicting the drivel that was going to be spewed from your fingertips.  Still waiting on this research.  There are no automatic responses in my post.  It was calling you out for claims you make.  When do you think you will be able to put forth an adequate response?

So...you admit Rhabdo is a real thing...one can easily tell the horrible form and stupid amount of reps cross fitters use and yet you still want more "research" ? you are nothing but shheep I guess crossfit gives your life meaning, you are not mature enough to question your own beliefs?

[Necrosis]

So...you admit Rhabdo is a real thing...one can easily tell the horrible form and stupid amount of reps cross fitters use and yet you still want more "research" ? you are nothing but shheep I guess crossfit gives your life meaning, you are not mature enough to question your own beliefs?

Form would have nothing to due with rhabadomyolysis. Water intoxication exists, saying such does not nullify drinking large amounts of water. You are making a false equvilency. At what point does RM start? how many reps? is it the rest? how bad is it?

I would argue that it's hard to induce and the symptoms of it would prevent further exercise. It can happen, but I would imagine you would almost have to try to induce it against the feeling of being very unwell and tired. To get to IV, Disseminated intravascular coagulation and kidney failure you would have to be some form of OCD mixed with  amy winehouse and a dash of that inbred kid who plays the fiddle in deliverance.

I have yet to see it in practice or in anyone I know.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Coach, do you think you would have made a lot more money going the Crossfit route instead of the MMA route? The crossfit route seems like an easier sell.

[The Showstoppa]

Cultish

[MisterMagoo]

Crossfit is stupid and medically dangerous, you just defend it because you are part of it. Modern day bodybuilding is stupid too but at its core Bodybuilding is a practice that has existed since ancient greece and has millenia of science to back it. The drugs came into the picture later on. Crossfit is basically the Zumba of weight lifting, pointless and dangerous work outs aimed to appease the ego and the wallets of the traines who run crossfit gyms. I actually spent time reading and researching cross fit and I rarely ever make up my mind without research. Crossfit is retarded.

Defend this. What is "medically dangerous" About it in ways that other forms of exercise aren't? Really, explain. Keep in mind the number of high school football players who died on the field from heat stroke or ended up with massive dehydration (I actually had a urine infection in 10th grade because the coach ran us so hard I got dehydrated to the point where my urine crystallized inside me).

If you're going to go after bad coaching, that's not an issue with the protocol then. That's an issue with bad coaches. I follow Brandon Lilley's Cube Method currently for Crossfit. Here's a workout. Please, pray tell, what's dangerous about this workout:

Squat cleans:
- work up to 80% 2x5 sets

- EMOM 315x3 deadlift, remainder of the first 30sec max air squats, rest 30 seconds. Rounds until 100 squats

- GHD setups 4x10

- Reverse hyperextensions - 3x15

Yep. Looks terrible.

[che]

Who made the decision to make that jump, her or her "coach"?

Obama

[Coach is Back!]

coach, i have to ask you honestly: have you ever truly looked into what crossfit is, or are you just finding the occasional article that reaffirms your preconceptions about it and mindlessly bleating them?

after all, there are SCADS of olympic lifters who, only the olympic PLATFORM, lost balance and dropped a bar on their head. here's one from the 2012 olympic games.

what you're doing is the equivalent of me showing a video of that kid getting stuck under a bench and calling for his mom and going "LOL BODYBUILDING IS STUPID" or, in the case of this particular video, showing a picture of a bodybuilder with a torn muscle and going "SEE BODYBUILDING IS DANGEROUS".

for someone who ostensibly coaches people for a living, your rigor and honesty in examining forms of exercise is... troubling.

Yes, and fairly extensively. The problem is there is no true definition of how they even define what "crossfit" at least that makes sense. We are sandwiched between two crossfit outfits both with in 200 yards of each other. But that's besides the point. There is nothing in what I'm going to say now that I have not said MANY times on here before. So I'm going to say this one more time......it's not the lifts, the rep and recovery of the lifts (O-lifts). The girl in the video seemed to have decent form until she lost it. Why did she lose it? According to the article it was 1. She has only been training for 1-2 years, which isn't a problem BUT 2. She jumped up 25lbs on a technical lift.

Krank likes to make fun of when I call out the lack of progressions but the progressions are everything. We max every week based on what the 1RM is. Example, if I have an athlete that has a 1RM of 315lbs on a squat, the following week is 320-325lbs MAX even if he could do more we don't take beyond that and build from there. Also, programming is more important then the progressions, you can't have one with out the other.

There are little progressions and minimum recovery with high CNS exercises with crossfit which is why the higher injury rate. Just to add a note, comparing crossfit to WSM is an absolutely absurd comparison. They know the risk involved even though the training is sound.

[MisterMagoo]

wait wait wait. lack of progressions? define that claim. because i refuse to believe you're saying something as dumb as what it sounds like.

[che]

Yes, and fairly extensively. The problem is there is no true definition of how they even define what "crossfit" at least that makes sense. We are sandwiched between two crossfit outfits both with in 200 yards of each other. But that's besides the point. There is nothing in what I'm going to say now that I have not said MANY times on here before. So I'm going to say this one more time......it's not the lifts, the rep and recovery of the lifts (O-lifts). The girl in the video seemed to have decent form until she lost it. Why did she lose it? According to the article it was 1. She has only been training for 1-2 years, which isn't a problem BUT 2. She jumped up 25lbs on a technical lift.

Krank likes to make fun of when I call out the lack of progressions but the progressions are everything. We max every week based on what the 1RM is. Example, if I have an athlete that has a 1RM of 315lbs on a squat, the following week is 320-325lbs MAX even if he could do more we don't take beyond that and build from there. Also, programming is more important then the progressions, you can't have one with out the other.

There are little progressions and minimum recovery with high CNS exercises with crossfit which is why the higher injury rate. Just to add a note, comparing crossfit to WSM is an absolutely absurd comparison. They know the risk involved even though the training is sound.

STFU Coach , you make soccer players deadlift 350lbs 

[Mr Nobody]

Obama

LoL this one always makes me laugh.

[Coach is Back!]

STFU Coach , you make soccer players deadlift 350lbs 

Says the twink who plays on machines...hahah

[Papper]

This needs a slow mo replay afterwards...

People who do crossfit deserves whatever comes from it

[viking1]

Yes, and fairly extensively. The problem is there is no true definition of how they even define what "crossfit" at least that makes sense. We are sandwiched between two crossfit outfits both with in 200 yards of each other. But that's besides the point. There is nothing in what I'm going to say now that I have not said MANY times on here before. So I'm going to say this one more time......it's not the lifts, the rep and recovery of the lifts (O-lifts). The girl in the video seemed to have decent form until she lost it. Why did she lose it? According to the article it was 1. She has only been training for 1-2 years, which isn't a problem BUT 2. She jumped up 25lbs on a technical lift.

Krank likes to make fun of when I call out the lack of progressions but the progressions are everything. We max every week based on what the 1RM is. Example, if I have an athlete that has a 1RM of 315lbs on a squat, the following week is 320-325lbs MAX even if he could do more we don't take beyond that and build from there. Also, programming is more important then the progressions, you can't have one with out the other.

There are little progressions and minimum recovery with high CNS exercises with crossfit which is why the higher injury rate. Just to add a note, comparing crossfit to WSM is an absolutely absurd comparison. They know the risk involved even though the training is sound.

  Coach, are those two CFs over on Gothard...      If so, they are popping up here like CVS and Walgreens..  

[Coach is Back!]

Defend this. What is "medically dangerous" About it in ways that other forms of exercise aren't? Really, explain. Keep in mind the number of high school football players who died on the field from heat stroke or ended up with massive dehydration (I actually had a urine infection in 10th grade because the coach ran us so hard I got dehydrated to the point where my urine crystallized inside me).

If you're going to go after bad coaching, that's not an issue with the protocol then. That's an issue with bad coaches. I follow Brandon Lilley's Cube Method currently for Crossfit. Here's a workout. Please, pray tell, what's dangerous about this workout:

Squat cleans:
- work up to 80% 2x5 sets

- EMOM 315x3 deadlift, remainder of the first 30sec max air squats, rest 30 seconds. Rounds until 100 squats

- GHD setups 4x10

- Reverse hyperextensions - 3x15

Yep. Looks terrible.

I have no problem with that. Like I sais, you have good coaches who use the crossfit name to het people in then use their own protocols. Crossfit as it was intended is a fucking disaster.

[Coach is Back!]

  Coach, are those two CFs over on Gothard...      If so, they are popping up here like CVS and Walgreens..  

No, I'm between crossfit Marina and crossfit IDOG on producer and Product ln off McFadden between Graham and Springdale.

[viking1]

No, I'm between crossfit Marina and crossfit IDOG on producer and Product ln off McFadden between Graham and Springdale.

    Wow, thats incredible.  Only a few miles away there are 2 other ones on Gothard-Ellis. That makes 4 in a small area.

[AbrahamG]

Crossfit is for homosexuals.

[The Grim Lifter]

Agree with everything Coach has said. It's a stupid Cult, and like a lot of things point out a few things that to them make no sense in bodybuilding to say why their training system is better. When what they point out is just bullshit anyway, exaggerated to say why they are better.

[DroppingPlates]

Crossfit is for homosexuals.

Amen, this thread can be closed

[Gonuclear]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2013/11/26/11/21/woman-topples-over-during-crossfit-weightlifting


I predict this cult-fad will be gone with in three years especially with "Obamacare". LOL!  So popular, people are catching on to it's stupidity. (There's an Obama joke in there someplace but this is neither the time nor the place)

With you, as with many, there is an "Obama joke" just about everywhere.   Not everyone feels that way, though.  But fortunately for them, you are yourself a far funnier joke than Obama will ever be.

Let's see how your prediction fares.  I would not bet ten cents on it, if I were you.

[Palpatine Q]

I don't get calling bodybuilding stupid as a defense of crossfit. Jumping out of a plane without a parachute would be stupid too...wouldn't make crossfit any less stupid.

[Krankenstein]

So...you admit Rhabdo is a real thing...one can easily tell the horrible form and stupid amount of reps cross fitters use and yet you still want more "research" ? you are nothing but shheep I guess crossfit gives your life meaning, you are not mature enough to question your own beliefs?

I do not know what other words I need to use other than the ones I did.  Still waiting on your "research" princess.  You said you researched crossfit...I am curious about this "research".  Do you still not comprehend?

[Krankenstein]

Form would have nothing to due with rhabadomyolysis. Water intoxication exists, saying such does not nullify drinking large amounts of water. You are making a false equvilency. At what point does RM start? how many reps? is it the rest? how bad is it?

I would argue that it's hard to induce and the symptoms of it would prevent further exercise. It can happen, but I would imagine you would almost have to try to induce it against the feeling of being very unwell and tired. To get to IV, Disseminated intravascular coagulation and kidney failure you would have to be some form of OCD mixed with  amy winehouse and a dash of that inbred kid who plays the fiddle in deliverance.

I have yet to see it in practice or in anyone I know.

Thank you.  I was waiting for "him" to chime in with a little google-fu on this.