you keep singing the same song bro.
its always "you'll see (at this date in the near future)'
not trying to be mean but its time to put up or shut up.
yeah theres no "youll see"
what he thinks to who hes talking to?
my size was all there already after 1 year of non stop bulking and there came nothing new the next 10+years.
theres no youll see, lol, esp not a some miserable orals only cycles.
there is no damn thing to see anytime soon, or ever, after age 30 if theres not yet a solid huge base,its not happening this lifetime.
here i'm 76.5 kg with 16 1/4 inch arms, before i was 69 kg with 15 1/3 inch arms

so waht,it looks exactly the same as before, no size was gained.
what was gained, i will list it for you:
-visceral fat from your shit diet, im not expert doctor ont this, but dont need to be one.thats that 1 or so inch widr waist.
-subcutane fat, some thin layer which adds to few lbs though.you didnt ruin the shape, still lean, but a layer of fat everywhere, thats also why the abs arent shown in this pic.they covered in some fat.
-waterbloat from dbol, few lbs.
real muscle gains, none.
we can talk about numbers and stats till next sun-moon eclipse, but it doesnt change the visual fact that there was no gain.
at my most shredded my arms are just under 19inches and look their absolute biggest, when im fatter theyre around 20 and look huge but not as impresive.no muscle gain either.
you know, pure muscle gain doesnt show as water under the skin, hope this helps to come down to earth a bit.