Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?

[Soul Crusher]

Apparently Ford, BMW and Toyota got government money and Honda asked for money from the Japanese government

http://jalopnik.com/5704575/ford-bmw-toyota-took-secret-government-money

http://www.newser.com/story/52383/honda-hops-on-bailout-bandwagon.html

It was forced on them

[Straw Man]

right right.  they're now all editorialists.  give me a fucking break.  if you were to ask her what she does for a living she would tell you that she's a journalist and she delivers news.  but she acts like she's preaching from the pulpit. 

She doesn't "deliver the news"

Her show on msnbc is considered a news and opinion show but she isn't doing traffic, weather (unless perhaps it's a major storm or something) or "cat in a tree" stories

She is a professor of political science at Tulane and formerly an associate professor of political science at Princeton

[Straw Man]

It was forced on them

really?

With American credit markets dried up, Honda is seeking money from the Japanese government to help finance auto loans in the US, reports the Wall Street Journal. The Japanese government is planning to offer $5 billion through a semi-governmental organization, and Toyota is planning to seek funds as well.

[bears]

She needs to be fired. The news is supposed to present objective, unbiased information, but most of it is now just a collection of liberal leaning obama worshippers. Its getting closer and closer to a russian style state-controlled propaganda outlet.

right but they can always call it "political commentary".  it's just that even ridiculous claims like the ones she's making get to air because they want to feed the beast.  who's a news anchor anymore?  

[Straw Man]

right but they can always call it "political commentary".  it's just that even ridiculous claims like the ones she's making get to air because they want to feed the beast.  who's a news anchor anymore?  

she is doing political commentary, just like Rush, Levine, Hannity, and every other idiot on Faux News

you just happen not to agree with it

[dario73]

Apparently Ford, BMW and Toyota got government money and Honda asked for money from the Japanese government

http://jalopnik.com/5704575/ford-bmw-toyota-took-secret-government-money

http://www.newser.com/story/52383/honda-hops-on-bailout-bandwagon.html

Those were not grants that allowed government ownership of those companies as it did in GM.

They were LOANS for the credit arms of the company. Not for manufacturing or research and development aspect of those companies.

Any company that is going to receive a loan at a lower interest is going to take it. But that money you point out was not the "HANDOUT" portion of TARP where the company gave up share of its operations to the government.

Completely different. THESE ARE NOT BAILOUTS!

AND it still doesn't change the fact that the industry would still have survived without the TARP.

What? Do you think all of the sudden we would be riding horses and donkeys?

[dario73]

This is considered a bailout?
According to the data, from October 2008 through June 2009 the fed bought $45.1 billion in commercial paper from the credit arms of four automakers - Ford, BMW, Chrysler and Toyota - along with GMAC


 

If it was a bailout, how come the government didn't get a share of those companies?

[bears]

she is doing political commentary, just like Rush, Levine, Hannity, and every other idiot on Faux News

you just happen not to agree with it

who says I don't think they are just as ridiculous?  why do you assume I patronize their television shows? 

And if they both have ridiculous political commentary why do you refer to Fox News as "faux news" and not have a similarly cute derogatory term for MSNBC?  Is it because you won't agree that she's ridiculous because you agree with her?

you see I have the benefit of not feeling like i'm forced to swing from the nuts of a political party.  it must suck to feel the need to defend that shit all the time.

[Straw Man]

who says I don't think they are just as ridiculous?  why do you assume I patronize their television shows? 

And if they both have ridiculous political commentary why do you refer to Fox News as "faux news" and not have a similarly cute derogatory term for MSNBC?  Is it because you won't agree that she's ridiculous because you agree with her?

you see I have the benefit of not feeling like i'm forced to swing from the nuts of a political party.  it must suck to feel the need to defend that shit all the time.

when did I say you watched any of those shows

I'm just pointing out that what she is going is political commentary just like a long list of others

btw - if you read my first post on this thread you would see that I'm not defending her claim about the word Obamacare

wtf ?

[Straw Man]

Those were not grants that allowed government ownership of those companies as it did in GM.

They were LOANS for the credit arms of the company. Not for manufacturing or research and development aspect of those companies.

Any company that is going to receive a loan at a lower interest is going to take it. But that money you point out was not the "HANDOUT" portion of TARP where the company gave up share of its operations to the government.

Completely different. THESE ARE NOT BAILOUTS!

AND it still doesn't change the fact that the industry would still have survived without the TARP.

What? Do you think all of the sudden we would be riding horses and donkeys?

Did GM come to the government begging for a bailout?

[bears]

when did I say you watched any of those shows

I'm just pointing out that what she is going is political commentary just like a long list of others

btw - if you read my first post on this thread you would see that I'm not defending her claim about the word Obamacare

wtf ?

yet Fox News is "faux news" to you but you don't denigrate MSNBC at all.  why?

they both claim to be "news" stations and both of them allow 90% of their time to be occupied by "political commentary" that borders on fanatical.  so again.  why do you denigrate Fox News and not MSNBC?

[Straw Man]

yet Fox News is "faux news" to you but you don't denigrate MSNBC at all.  why?

they both claim to be "news" stations and both of them allow 90% of their time to be occupied by "political commentary" that borders on fanatical.  so again.  why do you denigrate Fox News and not MSNBC?

I completely disagree that 90% of MSNBC content is fanatical political commentary

I doubt Faux News even reaches that level though they far exceed MSNBC

Again, apparently you don't understand that my first post on this thread is disagreeing with a commentator on MSNBC

[Archer77]

yet Fox News is "faux news" to you but you don't denigrate MSNBC at all.  why?

they both claim to be "news" stations and both of them allow 90% of their time to be occupied by "political commentary" that borders on fanatical.  so again.  why do you denigrate Fox News and not MSNBC?

I don't watch either of them.  Hayes, Sharpton, Mathews and Perry are unbearable to watch.  Olbermann was easier to stomach than those buffoons.  There isn't an original though among them. It's ultra-left wing propaganda.

[bears]

I don't watch either of them.  Hayes, Sharpton, Mathews and Perry are unbearable to watch.  Olbermann was easier to stomach than those buffoons.  There isn't an original though among them. It's ultra-left wing propaganda.

yup.  Olbermann was a dick and I didn't agree with much of what he believes but at least he got there by way of intelligence and wit.  those others are just colorful characters meant to stir up the pot.

[chadstallion]

she's not a news anchor

sheesh

settle the fuck down

shes as much of a news anchor as hannity o'reilly levin beck etal

[tonymctones]

it's definitely used as a pejorative (just like Romneycare) but it's most definitely not racist

Obama doesn't seem to mind it so this chick should find something else to bellyache about

If she needs some ideas she should spend some time on this board and look at how truly world class crybabies spend their day crying about irrelevant shit 24/7

hey we agree!!!

someone write that down, on December 9th, 2013 tonymctones and strawman agreed on something

[Straw Man]

hey we agree!!!

someone write that down, on December 9th, 2013 tonymctones and strawman agreed on something

sounds like you're getting smarter but maybe it's just a temporary moment of sanity

I assume you agree on my entire statement including the part your fellow crybabies on GB.com

[tonymctones]

sounds like you're getting smarter but maybe it's just a temporary moment of sanity

I assume you agree on my entire statement including the part your fellow crybabies on GB.com

absolutely did you see blackens latest fox news thread?

I mean obama and the admin lied about syria and all this clown can think about is fox news???

[Straw Man]

absolutely did you see blackens latest fox news thread?

I mean obama and the admin lied about syria and all this clown can think about is fox news???

he didn't actually make any comments in that thread other than post a story

a better example would be you and your fellow crybabies in the 8 dollar BigMac thread

[tonymctones]

he didn't actually make any comments in that thread other than post a story

a better example would be you and your fellow crybabies in the 8 dollar BigMac thread

we arent crying in there only pointing out that other peoples shitty decisions shouldnt be my responsibility