Who is really the best boxer?

[beakdoctor]

It amazes me how poorly remembered Juli Cesar Chavez is. His memory has not aged well.

He was an awesome force in his prime and his prime was a loooooong time. Sure once he got 'old' he looked as average as anybody else and once he started losing he didn't handle it well. But for a period of 12 or 13 years he was un-fuckin-beatable. Seems alot of people have forgotten that. Guy was like 89 and 0 at one point.

[MORTALCOIL]

It amazes me how poorly remembered Juli Cesar Chavez is. His memory has not aged well.

He was an awesome force in his prime and his prime was a loooooong time. Sure once he got 'old' he looked as average as anybody else and once he started losing he didn't handle it well. But for a period of 12 or 13 years he was un-fuckin-beatable. Seems alot of people have forgotten that. Guy was like 89 and 0 at one point.

He could have been 68-1 though. Meldrick Taylor was as close as it gets to being the first one to beat him. But I agree, Chavez was a force rarely seen.

[oldtimer1]

I don't have time to read through all these posts. This is the best boxer I found by far.

[whitewidow]

"Boxing"  no one cares about a bunch of pussys patting each other with pillows on their hands. They d all die in the cage. The cage is where its at.

LOL the cage is for mainly white trash. that is not a classy sport at all. Boxing is a more classy sport. I do have respect for UFC fighters becuase it does take balls to get in that octagon but great boxers are born and usually come from a line of fighters/fighting family. look how many boxers are named so and so Jr. That is because they were raised to grow up to be boxers you don't see that in the UFC. Like broner said UFC can be taught,great boxers are just born with the gift and start at a super young age like 7 years old.

[Teutonic Knight]

These 2.

Looks like 1 of them could be Ukrainian president, Putin would be p______ of !.

[che]

hahahaha best in the world but would get killed by a top 10 heavyweight

che? what's your take on this?

I agree , no weight classes ,no trannies.

[polychronopolous]

You want to be considered a great straw weight champion?

Go in there and knock out a Klitchko, then we will finally give you your due.

[beakdoctor]

You want to be considered a great straw weight champion?

Go in there and knock out a Klitchko, then we will finally give you your due.

ricardo lopez retired 50-0-1. thats great in any division.

[GraniteCityDon]

Did anyone see the beatdown Floyd handed out to the guy that sucker punched his dad in the gym? If he hadn't walked away with the guy cowering down in the corner he could have severely hurt him.

[hardgainerj]

wow no mention of BHop or Ricardo Lopez

[Hulkotron]

Macho Man Randy Savage

[whitewidow]

wow no mention of BHop or Ricardo Lopez

Bhop is a cheap dirty fighter and yes somebody did mention lopez right before you posted. lopez was a no talent pussy but at least he listened to his corner. he would get his ass handed to him by manny 147lb fighters.

[Twinkenstein]

The most entertaining would definitely be Roy Jones Jr. The man was a true gladiator.

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[Darren Avey]

Roy Jones had an awful chin. Was a flash cunt full of himself and ran from Benn,Mccllean and Steve Collins

[GraniteCityDon]

Roy Jones had an awful chin. Was a flash girl full of himself and ran from Benn,Mccllean and Steve Collins

Had an awful chin? I dont know about his prime since nobody could land a glove on it but he resembles Liddell in his later career. His prime was as good as youll see, absolute confidence and incredible ability to destroy anyone he was in the ring with.

Its not as simple as he ran from this guy or that guy, some of the proposed negotiations were not to his camps liking and they wanted to avoid any dealings with King early on. Again its all theoretical as to who would have won in these fights, but at that point i'd have leaned towards Roy against Benn and Collins. If his chin wasnt that great then theres a very strong chance McClellan could have tagged him early on and finished him. ridiculous power.

[oldtimer1]

The greatest boxer I can think of is Archie Moore. He had 131 knockouts. Some has his knock outs lower but they all agree his has the most of all time. He fought over such a long time span. The guy had 185 wins and he ducked no one. He had power and style. He was a small light heavy weight who fought heavy weights when the money was right. He was flashy and loud.  Way past his prime he fought a prime Rocky Marciano and Muhammad Ali.

[Marty Champions]

rare fight John Clease aka Basil Fawlty vs Mike Tyson

u can tell that was fake that white guy was gassed throwing every punch, his running around the ring was to "con-vince"

[Mr Nobody]

u can tell that was fake that white guy was gassed throwing every punch, his running around the ring was to "con-vince"

He took a dive for some change.

[Marty Champions]

He took a dive for some change.

he wouldve killed tyson just throw his head down everytime tyson does that stupid head roll. kinda like in wrestling, some asshole goes low you just push his head down into the mat.

[Rascal full]

I don't think Sammy Scaff took a dive....his nose was half hanging off his face!!

[Rascal full]

Best boxer of all time was Sugar Ray Robinson followed by Rocky Marciano.

[oldtimer1]

Best boxer of all time was Sugar Ray Robinson followed by Rocky Marciano.

"Rocky Marciano! Rocky Marciano! Every time boxing come up a white man pulls Rocky Marciano out of his ass."

[rooseveltdunn]

"Rocky Marciano! Rocky Marciano! Every time boxing come up a white man pulls Rocky Marciano out of his ass."

In this era its Floyd, all time is Robinson...marciano fought old champs and bums.

[Rascal full]

"Rocky Marciano! Rocky Marciano! Every time boxing come up a white man pulls Rocky Marciano out of his ass."

49-0 43 knockouts. My dad knew Don Cockell who fought Marciano and lasted eight rounds. Don said during the entire fight Marciano never blinked once just kept coming forward throwing non stop punches to the arms and head. Once the arms had gone dead he would take your fucking head off. Don also fought a guy called Nino Valdez who apparently had an even harder punch than Marciano.

[T-REX007]

Harry Greb was nobody's chump, maybe the best ever, right up there with Robinson. Marciano is underrated, sure he was small and easy to hit like everybody said but all he did was beat everybody. Archie Moore was older for sure but he peaked later in his career in my opinion as did Walcott. Marciano had heart and guts like very few have had. You can't take the HUMAN aspect out of it ever, Ali on paper should have lost to Liston and Foreman and handled Norton no problem, but it was not the case.

Dempsey was an absolute killer but partied too much. Jack Johnson was a defensive wizard, could bang with anybody in any era. You have to consider modern training methods with old time fighters when considering ''who was the best"- put the rock, Greb, Johnson, Dempsey under modern training methods and they are all bigger ,faster,  stronger etc..

It's like saying the '27 Yankees and Murderer's row was the greatest team ever- Ruth, Gherig , Lazzeri , Combs, etc... but they would lose to a modern team because of training methods, skill development, better pitching today etc... Bring them to modern times and train them then maybe ....