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Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« on: December 13, 2013, 08:35:56 AM »
After the passing of several bbers this year, I've been wondering, what happens with the oil that someone injects into themselves?? It is really filtrated by the kidneys? or it's just absorbed by the body?  ???

Thanks!

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2013, 08:45:22 AM »
After the passing of several bbers this year, I've been wondering, what happens with the oil that someone injects into themselves?? It is really filtrated by the kidneys? or it's just absorbed by the body?  ???

Thanks!

Anything that bypasses the intestinal tract hence injections, ends up in your bloodstream at some point. Author L Rea says MCT (which most synthol are) eventually gets reabsorbed as "food" by your body.

I seriously doubt it's that simple considering the quantities some injected.
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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2013, 06:51:08 AM »
Anything that bypasses the intestinal tract hence injections, ends up in your bloodstream at some point. Author L Rea says MCT (which most synthol are) eventually gets reabsorbed as "food" by your body.

I seriously doubt it's that simple considering the quantities some injected.

MCT oil is good for you.

Therefore I'm left to assume that Synthol=healthy.

Will buy some tomorrow.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2013, 07:18:51 AM »
Anything that bypasses the intestinal tract hence injections, ends up in your bloodstream at some point. Author L Rea says MCT (which most synthol are) eventually gets reabsorbed as "food" by your body.

I seriously doubt it's that simple considering the quantities some injected.

No wonder fools are injecting oil taking advice from Rea.  Your blood gets filtered by your kidneys and liver. Oil is not something that is found in your blood. Don't confuse eating oil on a salad with injecting oil into your body.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2013, 07:28:42 AM »
No wonder fools are injecting oil taking advice from Rea.  Your blood gets filtered by your kidneys and liver. Oil is not something that is found in your blood. Don't confuse eating oil on a salad with injecting oil into your body.

How about using that Nutribullet thing to liquefy dinner and then run an IV?

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2013, 07:36:18 AM »
If you follow their simpleton logic that oil is just a natural food that is safe for you to inject then we should blend a chicken meat and inject it. How about some pea soup?  Maybe inject some milk. No wonder bodybuilders have a reputation for being dopes.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2013, 08:08:33 AM »
Exon 10-40 is not good to cook with.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2013, 08:11:30 AM »
I doubt MCT's are toxic in any way, but can't say for sure. I don't think they are nephrotoxic.

Some of these SEO's contain other stuff like silica (iirc) to make them linger around longer. Benzyl alcohol is probably not good either, especially in large amounts.

I think Synthol just damages muscles. This is the potential problem:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22905749

Oil is not something that is found in your blood.

No? What happens to MCT oil, coconut oil etc when you eat it?

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2013, 12:56:22 PM »
I doubt MCT's are toxic in any way, but can't say for sure. I don't think they are nephrotoxic.

Some of these SEO's contain other stuff like silica (iirc) to make them linger around longer. Benzyl alcohol is probably not good either, especially in large amounts.

I think Synthol just damages muscles. This is the potential problem:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22905749


Wow, thanks the link. That's the first I acually a publication about a synthol case. Fucking creepy as shit to do this to your body.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2013, 01:52:25 PM »
After the passing of several bbers this year, I've been wondering, what happens with the oil that someone injects into themselves?? It is really filtrated by the kidneys? or it's just absorbed by the body?  ???

Thanks!

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2013, 02:12:56 PM »
After the passing of several bbers this year, I've been wondering, what happens with the oil that someone injects into themselves?? It is really filtrated by the kidneys? or it's just absorbed by the body?  ???

Thanks!

Hey man, I am a kidney specialist and I can assure you that the oil is not filtered by the kidneys. Most triglycerides and MCT oils and such are metabolized by the liver. I need to research Synthol more, but I doubt the by-products of metabolism would be significanty nephrotoxic. However, anabolics, clen, and NSAIDs will totally mess with the kidney. Just recently, I have started two bodybuilders who abused NSAIDs and anabolics on dialysis. Hope that helps. I believe ether is a hepatologist or liver surgeon so he may know better of synthol effects on the liver.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2013, 02:21:32 PM »
Hey man, I am a kidney specialist and I can assure you that the oil is not filtered by the kidneys. Most triglycerides and MCT oils and such are metabolized by the liver. I need to research Synthol more, but I doubt the by-products of metabolism would be significanty nephrotoxic. However, anabolics, clen, and NSAIDs will totally mess with the kidney. Just recently, I have started two bodybuilders who abused NSAIDs and anabolics on dialysis. Hope that helps. I believe ether is a hepatologist or liver surgeon so he may know better of synthol effects on the liver.

Just wondering.  How long have they been using AAS?

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2013, 02:29:13 PM »
I doubt MCT's are toxic in any way, but can't say for sure. I don't think they are nephrotoxic.

Some of these SEO's contain other stuff like silica (iirc) to make them linger around longer. Benzyl alcohol is probably not good either, especially in large amounts.

I think Synthol just damages muscles. This is the potential problem:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22905749

No? What happens to MCT oil, coconut oil etc when you eat it?

It's digested by acid. Much of it is eliminated and some enters your blood in small amounts. It's not put directly into your blood by injecting your muscles. Did you go to school on the small bus?

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2013, 02:48:27 PM »
It's digested by acid. Much of it is eliminated and some enters your blood in small amounts. It's not put directly into your blood by injecting your muscles. Did you go to school on the small bus?
no offence but it looks more like you had to take the short b6s to the school cause he never said that. But its not the first time you talk out of your ass about things you dont know a thing about

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2013, 02:57:41 PM »
It's digested by acid. Much of it is eliminated and some enters your blood in small amounts. It's not put directly into your blood by injecting your muscles. Did you go to school on the small bus?

Oldtimer1 - why be so insulting to  VanBilder? He is a cool dude.  He references many of his comments with direct links to research papers.




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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2013, 03:24:44 PM »
MCT oil is good for you.

Therefore I'm left to assume that Synthol=healthy.

Will buy some tomorrow.

My cousins friend wants to know if you can inject synthol into your cock to make it bigger. He has a small cock.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2013, 03:30:54 PM »
As the only REAL doc on getbig, I'll tel you this: if the Synthol is broken down to just the fatty acids and glycerol, it's processed by the liver and may be part off the gall. If whole fat particles get into the circulation, they may cause a fat embolie in the lungs. You don't want that.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2013, 04:06:25 PM »
I doubt MCT's are toxic in any way, but can't say for sure. I don't think they are nephrotoxic.

Some of these SEO's contain other stuff like silica (iirc) to make them linger around longer. Benzyl alcohol is probably not good either, especially in large amounts.

I think Synthol just damages muscles. This is the potential problem:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22905749

No? What happens to MCT oil, coconut oil etc when you eat it?

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2013, 04:07:41 PM »
Thanks everyone for the replies.

Hey man, I am a kidney specialist and I can assure you that the oil is not filtered by the kidneys. Most triglycerides and MCT oils and such are metabolized by the liver. I need to research Synthol more, but I doubt the by-products of metabolism would be significanty nephrotoxic. However, anabolics, clen, and NSAIDs will totally mess with the kidney. Just recently, I have started two bodybuilders who abused NSAIDs and anabolics on dialysis. Hope that helps. I believe ether is a hepatologist or liver surgeon so he may know better of synthol effects on the liver.

Thank you! Good info.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2013, 04:37:35 PM »
It's digested by acid. Much of it is eliminated and some enters your blood in small amounts. It's not put directly into your blood by injecting your muscles. Did you go to school on the small bus?

I don't know what "digested by acid" has to do with anything. MCT's as in Synthol aren't put directly into blood intentionally. If unintentionally then you get into the type of trouble Milos did.
That can and does happen occasionally with an anabolic steroid injection too and you will know within seconds, even before you pull the needle out. My only point was that I don't think medium chain triglycerides are toxic to organs per se. I doubt bodybuilders are killing their organs with fatty acids.

Now like I said some of these products contain other shit I don't know about, stuff that is there to make the oil stay in the muscle longer. That stuff may be toxic, haven't looked into it. Without claiming any type of expertise here I would speculate the main concern is damaging muscle tissue, whether due to fibrosis or even due to restricted oxygen delivery as some have suggested.

Many of these gurus like Palumbo have claimed that Synthol leaves the muscle in a matter of days, so it's a harmless way to "stretch the fascia" (which I think is BS on several levels)... but it seems obvious to me that this isn't always happening. Just look at the permanent disfigurement of a serious Synthol user. I think the reason for this is explained in what I linked above.

Just aesthetically speaking, I think Synthol is the worst thing a bodybuilder can do to his body. it never looks natural. The sellers all claim it will look completely normal if "done right" but I haven't seen a single case where you couldn't tell, where it looks like real muscle. I would have done Synthol by the gallon if I would have thought it could be done to look good. I don't give a shit about all these ridiculous moral objections like, "it's a lazy man's shortcut, it's not earned muscle" or whatever. IT JUST DOES NOT LOOK GOOD.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2013, 07:54:08 PM »
Hey man, I am a kidney specialist and I can assure you that the oil is not filtered by the kidneys. Most triglycerides and MCT oils and such are metabolized by the liver. I need to research Synthol more, but I doubt the by-products of metabolism would be significanty nephrotoxic. However, anabolics, clen, and NSAIDs will totally mess with the kidney. Just recently, I have started two bodybuilders who abused NSAIDs and anabolics on dialysis. Hope that helps. I believe ether is a hepatologist or liver surgeon so he may know better of synthol effects on the liver.

Awesome post, thanks nico. Do you know what specific anabolics these guys were on? I keep hearing that trenbolone creates kidney duress. Scott Jensen claims that tren itself doesn't but benzyl alcohol does which tren acetate usually has a high concentration of when made with finaplix. Kinda make sense but I doubt it's that simple.
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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2013, 08:02:23 PM »
Just aesthetically speaking, I think Synthol is the worst thing a bodybuilder can do to his body. it never looks natural. The sellers all claim it will look completely normal if "done right" but I haven't seen a single case where you couldn't tell, where it looks like real muscle. I would have done Synthol by the gallon if I would have thought it could be done to look good. I don't give a shit about all these ridiculous moral objections like, "it's a lazy man's shortcut, it's not earned muscle" or whatever. IT JUST DOES NOT LOOK GOOD.


No oils ever look good when injected, so I don't see why people have so much hope with Synthol. I don't really like pinning my delts for that reason. Nothing more than 2mls injected deep in the medial deltoid head.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2013, 08:03:47 PM »
No oils ever look good when injected, so I don't see why people have so much hope with Synthol. I don't really like pinning my delts for that reason. Nothing more than 2mls injected deep in the medial deltoid head.

I can even tell with 1 ML in delts :-\

I'm pretty much exclusively glutes now because I follow the Van B rule that shots are simply NOT good for a muscle.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2013, 08:09:12 PM »
why would you want to look big but be weak as a kitten anyways.

i'd rather be thin and superstrong.

you're all brainwashed with this bb industry and stupid inverted anorexia.

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Re: Question for the docs on here (Synthol)
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2013, 08:13:25 PM »
I can even tell with 1 ML in delts :-\

I'm pretty much exclusively glutes now because I follow the Van B rule that shots are simply NOT good for a muscle.

I know, man. I use 1.5" for shoulders and shove the fucker in really deep and inject slowly so there's no irritation. If I see any sort of obscurity I get super self concious. Nothing looks worse than a 4th deltoid head ala Kovacs.

I only just started pinning delts after years of avoiding them. So far, so good. But if they get inflamed then it's glutes and quads only.