Author Topic: Dorian Yates doesn't believe in deadlifts off the floor, totally useless he says  (Read 42479 times)

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I've never posted a pic...and oddly I don't feel inferior because somebody squats heavier then me....or in your case..just squats period. You know ur a pansy..u wish u could train hard...u wish u didn't need gear from the get go. I honestly think ur a gimmick because nobody could possibly be as friggen stupid as you.
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Who is Wendler and why am I supposed to listen to his advices ?
some dude from west side barbell who wrote down some ancient powerlifting routine and hyped it to delusional neckbeards online as a magical way to getbig steroid free

cutting edge stuff there, fives, threes, singles....

eat a lot too and look like shit....

all for the glory of ego lifting

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some dude from west side barbell who wrote down some ancient powerlifting routine and hyped it to delusional neckbeards online as a magical way to getbig steroid free

cutting edge stuff there, fives, threes, singles....

eat a lot too and look like shit....

all for the glory of ego lifting

Stopped reading after "Westside Barbell"

Thanks...got it.   powerlifting "experts"   LOL.

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Your right..shitty gym, shitty training...your epic shallow knee bends and squat rack curls along with anabolics will more the then overcome shitty genetics and zero training knowledge.
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Stopped reading after "Westside Barbell"

Thanks...got it.   powerlifting "experts"   LOL.
you got it

these fools always spamming my bodybuilding training kinetics threads with their BS about "how i dont got no base...no squatting deadliftin... no hard work... all drugs"


even when i point out how much i did these pointless exercises


they keep rambling their shit


i actually want to stab them in the throat

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Your right u win..I can't argue with an idiot.
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powerlifting is retarded because:

epic range of motion

power that weight up, don't for a second think about what muscle you're actually hitting

fat as fuck

look like shit, very unbalanced physique

snap your shit

ego lifting


etc

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Your right u win..I can't argue with an idiot.
of course i'm right

i've am an expert on weightlifting, bodybuilding, and black ppl

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you got it

these fools always spamming my bodybuilding training kinetics threads with their BS about "how i dont got no base...no squatting deadliftin... no hard work... all drugs"


even when i point out how much i did these pointless exercises


they keep rambling their shit


i actually want to stab them in the throat

LOL.

I wish most here were dead as well...hahahaha.

Powerlifters are a funny bunch..they think they are hardcore and what they do is more "legit" than training for BBing.  nonsense

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i never even do deadlifts.

i squat with 1 plate each side and have better legs than some nats regional competitors here.(irl not on getbig i mean).

i train arms with ,lol, mostly puping them bit up on cables and they outsize outshape competitors to.
 
guess what they also outsize powerlifters arms.with legs its hard to tell how much of them would be left when theyre lean.

i can deadlift 4 plates side for cuple reps totaly natural and there will be no back development whatsoever.flat like a surfing board.

then you go on some steroids and do some machine pumping and it suddenly grows.
 
the lesson for me was, its more about proper contraction for full rom,rather than weight used.
the slightest cheating and the workload goes from muscle to jjoints and tendons, on a bad day this can mean a tear.

in my gym every single one of the heavy trainers had minimum one tear at some time.nah thanks.

yah some base strenght foundation is important to have, and can be fat to get there.
but if one can do 10reps bench dieted down with own bodyweight, thatll be ok.

trained "heavy" when was young, all the extra size i had there was water on the scale.

i dont see the good thing about heavy deadlifting,waist or not, hell,its below freezing temps utside, you go to the gym and even at the end of workout, you can still feel the blood circulation isnt the same like in summer, i think its asking for injury.

i leave all the flex magazine loudmouth ghostwritten sayings "lift hard" blabla outside the gym.it didnt work out well for jean pierre fux,did it?



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powerlifting is retarded because:

epic range of motion

power that weight up, don't for a second think about what muscle you're actually hitting

fat as fuck

look like shit, very unbalanced physique

snap your shit

ego lifting


etc

etc



"ego lifting"...translation..." I lift like a bitch". Plus ur not a bodybuilder..u don't compete. U go to the gym for recreation
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Agree, deadlifts are the last thing to do for bb ing especially for long term bbing and health. This is coming from someone who's pulled 705 a few times, so if you've not achieved at least that feat then fuck off preaching deadlifts are great and stick your copy of starting strength up your mcdonalds bloated ass.


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i never even do deadlifts.

i squat with 1 plate each side and have better legs than some nats regional competitors here.(irl not on getbig i mean).

i train arms with ,lol, mostly puping them bit up on cables and they outsize outshape competitors to.
 
guess what they also outsize powerlifters arms.with legs its hard to tell how much of them would be left when theyre lean.

i can deadlift 4 plates side for cuple reps totaly natural and there will be no back development whatsoever.flat like a surfing board.

then you go on some steroids and do some machine pumping and it suddenly grows.
 
the lesson for me was, its more about proper contraction for full rom,rather than weight used.
the slightest cheating and the workload goes from muscle to jjoints and tendons, on a bad day this can mean a tear.

in my gym every single one of the heavy trainers had minimum one tear at some time.nah thanks.

yah some base strenght foundation is important to have, and can be fat to get there.
but if one can do 10reps bench dieted down with own bodyweight, thatll be ok.

trained "heavy" when was young, all the extra size i had there was water on the scale.

i dont see the good thing about heavy deadlifting,waist or not, hell,its below freezing temps utside, you go to the gym and even at the end of workout, you can still feel the blood circulation isnt the same like in summer, i think its asking for injury.

i leave all the flex magazine loudmouth ghostwritten sayings "lift hard" blabla outside the gym.it didnt work out well for jean pierre fux,did it?





Haha yes.

Training should be fun and invigorating. ..talking with the smaller members and insulting them is always fun.  Just the other day a smaller member was flexing his triceps in the mirror so I started laughing and pointing at him and said "that's a unicep, not a tricep...at first glance I thought it was a hanger mark on your T shirt ."  :D

I find this sets the tone in the gym and I get in a good workout.

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Agree, deadlifts are the last thing to do for bb ing especially for long term bbing and health. This is coming from someone who's pulled 705 a few times, so if you've not achieved at least that feat then fuck off preaching deadlifts are great and stick your copy of starting strength up your mcdonalds bloated ass.


yah might aswell just flex the back real hard, deadlift has pretty much 0 rom for back muscle,and uhm,lower back who gives a shit about lower back, makes the waist thicker, not sure if that can be the goal.some time later the obliques might follow siut and boom,v taper down the toilet.

i see them all,thw twinks and the ftties likewise, "building" their foundation for years and years and always look the same.really,i like to observe their desperation,theyre flase believes in real action, they use proper form and all, but nah, nothing.
bbuilding is diet and pumping up the muscle, dont know why that is , bu thats how it is.
well,one might argue constant flexing for full rom for many reps is more stressful on the muscle and shocks them into growth, while heavy weights with shit form and exercise with almost no rom by nature, might be stressing the joints and not much else.one gets "stronger".in the joints.congratulation,what they gonna do now?enter an armwrestling contest? ;D
i mean, doesnt take nobel price laudeate to figure it out, try some deadlifts, try some rows on some shitty machine and see what works the muscles better.

meanqwhile, something ill never forget, some guy in london gym who looked like ali g face and body haha, just did some high colume stuff, 2test ampoulas weekly and anadrol he said and few months later had more size than me, i have no problem admiting that,and yes, lean.
ok he was maybe 1 in million gentetics, but ,y point, lol, he also trained like youd imagine ali g to train, haha.

Haha yes.

Training should be fun and invigorating. ..talking with the smaller members and insulting them is always fun.  Just the other day a smaller member was flexing his triceps in the mirror so I started laughing and pointing at him and said "that's a unicep, not a tricep...at first glance I thought it was a hanger mark on your T shirt ."  :D

I find this sets the tone in the gym and I get in a good workout.
ha, yes i always give little bit advice, except for the mongoloids who aproach"hey what you taking",those i tell its all diet and must eat everything in sight, never back down a mcdonalds meal post workout etc haha ;D

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im not so sure if ppl can understand when a genetic prodigy is on high doses of everything buffet and eats properly, what kinds of pumps and growth they gonna get fom relatively slight stimulation.

the strenght will come all by itself, like second nature.

if you have to build up strenght by weird means and ways and its not coming without you turning into a fatty, then its not meant to be.

i cant believe ppl buy this deadlift bullshit.

theres 270lbs contest ready monsters i seen, have yet to see them doing deadlifts.

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Rack pulls are still going to widen the waist. If your going to pull low its almost the same thing and if your pulling high, why bother? There are better exercises for a bodybuilder. If you want to be a man pull regardless....

you know I believe in the basic laws  of energy. Guys think that by hitting every muscle from every angle with every exercise they are somehow more developed .in the long run? well... it's totally idiotic in my opinion to think that we can develop every body part equally at the same time. and just because guys are complete and developed everywhere does not maen they would noott be more developed in a particular bodypart had they cut back their volume and or intensity on other bodyparts.

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can't find the video anymore

but i think he found rack pulls more sensible


deadlift blow out your waist to the side

when i trained with nasser he told me the same thing and he showed me how to do the stiff leg deadlifts for the hams from the floor to the knees only while standing over a step or so without the need to go up and involve the lower back.. and he said the same about deadlifts for the lower back not to start from the floor but from the knees..

since then i have been doing the stiff leg dead lift as he said but i didnt try the normal deallifts from the knees level as i didnt like this.. for me deadlifts are deadlifts must be from the floor  8)

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halo actualy speaking alot of truth in here...............

epic truths from gal tho

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halo actualy speaking alot of truth in here...............

epic truths from gal tho

The broscience that is qouted as bible in this game is laughable.

"Build a foundation"...um, what ?  I'm not a fucking bridge...LOL.

Sean Ray , flex wheeler, jay cutler, Arnold...all were banging serious cycles as teenagers.

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The broscience that is qouted as bible in this game is laughable.

"Build a foundation"...um, what ?  I'm not a fucking bridge...LOL.

Sean Ray , flex wheeler, jay cutler, Arnold...all were banging serious cycles as teenagers.


Yes, and when you dont build some foundation naturally, and go off gear, you will look like this:



Guys that are all drugs lose everything and look like Prince. At least if you build some muscle naturally, you will still keep something, even if you stop training.
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If they have kidney failure and stop eating and training? Wow, that's an impressive foundation those natural beasts build with their deadlifts and milk if it can survive organ failure.

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Rack pulls are still going to widen the waist. If your going to pull low its almost the same thing and if your pulling high, why bother? There are better exercises for a bodybuilder. If you want to be a man pull regardless....

LOL you validate manliness by ''pulling regardless.''  Only an insecure waddling twat would question ''manhood."

One day you'll earn it bro keep liftin heavy. hahahahah I get a kick out of some of you motherfuckers.

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when i trained with nasser he told me the same thing and he showed me how to do the stiff leg deadlifts for the hams from the floor to the knees only while standing over a step or so without the need to go up and involve the lower back.. and he said the same about deadlifts for the lower back not to start from the floor but from the knees..

since then i have been doing the stiff leg dead lift as he said but i didnt try the normal deallifts from the knees level as i didnt like this.. for me deadlifts are deadlifts must be from the floor  8)
so nasser agreed that maybe rack pulls have some point but deadlifts do not


then it's final, if dorian and nasser agree it means it must be true




they are some of the only pro bber who actually put some thought into what they are doing not just throwing around big weights


THANKS

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The broscience that is qouted as bible in this game is laughable.

"Build a foundation"...um, what ?  I'm not a fucking bridge...LOL.

Sean Ray , flex wheeler, jay cutler, Arnold...all were banging serious cycles as teenagers.
a foundation of muscle imbalances and disc degeneration is what sets apart the men from the boys  ::)