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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2006, 03:13:46 PM »
god bless the germans :)

or... Gott segnen die Deutschen.  ;)
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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2006, 04:12:43 PM »
Steve Reeves never used steroids , D-bol wasn't invented until 8 years after he stopped competing , he retired at 24 , 24 !! he won ever major contest , he was actually opssed to steroids in his book he addresses that issue , he said he never heard of steroids until the 60s.

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2006, 04:40:39 PM »
testosterone esters were first mentioned in Strength and Health magazine in 1938.  Bodybuilders in the 1950s certainly had access to them.

Steve Reeves was a lot bigger for his movies than he ever was as a competition bodybuilder.  Looking at photos from the time, it certainly appears he was on steroids during the mid to late 1950s.

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2006, 04:41:53 PM »
This is a photo of Arthur Harris taken in the mid 50's. There is no way that he or anyone else in the US had access to steroids during this time period.


Thats a pretty sweeping statement. I believe that most guys from the 50's were natural bodybuilders but steroid history goes back further than you think....

...testosterone was first synthesised in the 1930s, was used by the germans during WW2 on malnourished soldiers and POWs and introduced to the sporting arena in the 1940s..

...the reason everyone harps on about the 1950s as being the dawn of the steroid era is because it was at the 1952 olympics that the russians finally nailed steroids as a performance enhancing drug and rewrote the record books in weightlifting and walked away with a shitload of medals.
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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2006, 05:43:24 PM »
testosterone esters were first mentioned in Strength and Health magazine in 1938.  Bodybuilders in the 1950s certainly had access to them.

Steve Reeves was a lot bigger for his movies than he ever was as a competition bodybuilder.  Looking at photos from the time, it certainly appears he was on steroids during the mid to late 1950s.

i dont think you're right there.. i just think he was always standing next to people with mediocre physiques in his movies and you could tell how big he got.. i always thought he lost alot of his size for his movies i.e. in his legs and arms

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2006, 04:35:00 AM »
Thats a pretty sweeping statement. I believe that most guys from the 50's were natural bodybuilders but steroid history goes back further than you think....

...testosterone was first synthesised in the 1930s, was used by the germans during WW2 on malnourished soldiers and POWs and introduced to the sporting arena in the 1940s..

...the reason everyone harps on about the 1950s as being the dawn of the steroid era is because it was at the 1952 olympics that the russians finally nailed steroids as a performance enhancing drug and rewrote the record books in weightlifting and walked away with a shitload of medals.

Correct.
By 1935, Testosterone had been produced synthetically as an anabolic steroid. In 1945 a widely read book called "The Male Hormone" resulted in experimentation amongst athletes and bodybuilders.

Just read
"A brief history of testosterone"
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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2006, 04:41:49 AM »
 Anabolic steroids were first isolated and chemically characterized during the 1930's and in WWII it is rumored that the Germans used steroids to increase the aggressiveness of their troops (Yesalis, 1993). In the 1950's an American physician and weightlifter discovered the use of testosterone by Russian weightlifters. After experimentation on himself, he developed a synthetic steroid. He wrote about his discovery in popular bodybuilding magazines and thus the craze began (Goldman, 1984).

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2006, 12:00:22 PM »
Anyone who thinks that it is impossible to get big and ripped without drugs is an idiot. This is a photo of Arthur Harris taken in the mid 50's. There is no way that he or anyone else in the US had access to steroids during this time period.

What's amazing is that people think training knowledge has improved since then. They couldn't be more wrong.

please...

 that guy was on gear

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2006, 12:22:35 PM »
lets see his legs
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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2006, 11:56:28 PM »
Reeves was on gear.  No Doubt about it.  What exactly?  That's the question.  A testosterone ester 200-400mg/wk?  An earlier than d-bol synthetic?  Something he got from Germany maybe?  Someone (one of the historians) on this board must know or have heard what it was.  Reeves and Park both were obviously cycling something.

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2006, 01:31:34 AM »
does any one know, who's the  person  , standing next to reeves??

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2006, 02:16:08 AM »
does any one know, who's the  person  , standing next to reeves??
George Eiferman?

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2006, 04:35:17 AM »
Does anyone know the highest "natural" bodyweight ever achieved? (approx 10% bf)

I know, but a shiny dime says no one here guesses anywhere close.

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2006, 04:50:59 AM »
George Foreskin.

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2006, 05:39:06 AM »
George Eiferman?

thanks , btw  he looks huge in the picture..amazing.

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2006, 01:22:52 PM »
Does anyone know the highest "natural" bodyweight ever achieved? (approx 10% bf)

I know, but a shiny dime says no one here guesses anywhere close.

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I'm going to say ronnie coleman had the highest bodyweight at 10% bodyfat..
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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2006, 01:44:03 PM »
Reeves Unflexed Calf is pretty damn big for his size.
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« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2006, 01:50:46 PM »
Not even close gammahydroxy,

Ronnie doesn't even come close, 300 lbs?? Do I hear higher??

The shiny dime remains mine....


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PS - I said largest reported "natural" bodyweight at under 10% bodyfat.

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2006, 02:21:26 PM »
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Not even close gammahydroxy,

Ronnie doesn't even come close, 300 lbs?? Do I hear higher??

The shiny dime remains mine....


The Luke

PS - I said largest reported "natural" bodyweight at under 10% bodyfat.


OK, How are you gonna prove someone was/is well over 300 lbs. @ less then 10% bf and completly natural?

You can't know if someone was "lifetime" drug-free or not.

I'm gonna have to go ahead and call BULLSHIT on this one.
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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2006, 03:16:09 PM »
YOU ARE CORRECT, TESTOSTERONE ISNT A STEROID THOUGH.

Please delete your account and leave getbig forever.

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2006, 04:27:08 PM »
here is a much younger Reeves and Eiferman

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2006, 04:27:53 PM »
and an older Reeves and Eiferman

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2006, 04:30:33 PM »
here is one of Eiferman at his peak

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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2006, 04:31:31 PM »
monster triceps.
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Re: Big, ripped, and NATURAL
« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2006, 06:26:04 PM »
here is one of Eiferman at his peak

  Today, his physique wouldn't get him an Abercrombie&Fitch commercial. :-\

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