galeniko etc theory on squats, can someone explain biomechanics behind it?

[anabolichalo]

You're pretty strong. Built a good foundation before juicing. That will be rewarded later in your lifting carreer and life in general.

Do hack squats for sets of 20 (if your knees allow it).

should i do both leg press AND hack squat or alternate workouts?

which do i do first, how many sets

thanks

[anabolichalo]

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they love big arms, big cocks, full heads of hair, shiny premium cars, big bank accounts


like any other woman


big ass, uhm no that's black MEN

[Roger Bacon]

This talk of pros squatting light is so liberating.... Maybe I'm not a pussy

[Teutonic Knight]

they love big arms, big cocks, full heads of hair, shiny premium cars, big bank accounts


like any other woman


big ass, uhm no that's black MEN

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[kohl]

should i do both leg press AND hack squat or alternate workouts?

which do i do first, how many sets

thanks

Leg press first and hack squat after that is a perfect match.

If your knees can stand it, you can do hacks alone. If so, warm up thoroughly.

Training total around 100 reps for quads.

Don't be afraid to do drop sets once and a while.

No set of 5 rep squats can give your quads a beating like a high rep drop set on LP or Hack.

[anabolichalo]

Leg press first and hack squat after that is a perfect match.

If your knees can stand it, you can do hacks alone. If so, warm up thoroughly.

Training total around 100 reps for quads.

Don't be afraid to do drop sets once and a while.

No set of 5 rep squats can give your quads a beating like a high rep drop set on LP or Hack.

and what about hamstrings


do them first? if they are behind quad development?


and what exercise

thanks

[galeniko]

This talk of pros squatting light is so liberating.... Maybe I'm not a pussy

dont worry, ust bc its not very heavy, doesnt mean it isnt very intense,its in fact relatively very heavy.

that said, if one has the drugs and can do 4plates each side in the fashion that mawse described, they wil have olympia stage or npc heavyweight ready legs size.

us mere mortals can be happy if we get something like i have

[anabolichalo]

most importantly

thigh dominant physique looks bad


they need to be decent and seperated


but not distract from the upper body

[galeniko]

most importantly

thigh dominant physique looks bad


they need to be decent and seperated


but not distract from the upper body

yeah when the hamstrings pop out backward from side perspective is ok and good.

but when the tight dwarfe thwe quads from teh front perspective this suck,i try to avoid developing that look at all cost

[kohl]

and what about hamstrings


do them first? if they are behind quad development?


and what exercise

thanks

If they lag behind do them first.

If they are ahead, do them last.

If you have knee issues, do first leg curls, then leg press, then the rest of your quad training and then do the RDL part of your ham workout.

Hams = RDL and all kinds of curls (lying, standing, seated). Keep it simple. Never understood that silly exercise hype (glute ham raises and all that stuff that in 25 years I have never seen done by an advanced bodybuilder).

[anabolichalo]

ôk so something like

4-5 set leg curl

4 set leg press

4 set hack squat

4 set stiff leg

[kohl]

ôk so something like

4-5 set leg curl

4 set leg press

4 set hack squat

4 set stiff leg

Basically yes, looks good to me.

Don't be afraid to do dropsets on the leg curls also, works really well.

RDL don't go too heavy, it's typically an exercise where you can develop an excellent muscle-mind connection. Dennis Wolf doesn't need more then two plates each side on this, and Kai only one! Look at those guys hams!! Stay with 12 reps for hams.

[ProudVirgin69]

ôk so something like

4-5 set leg curl

4 set leg press

4 set hack squat

4 set stiff leg

Do your stifflegged deadlifts with dumbbells...otherwise, looks pretty good.

[TommyBoy]

" careful huge trap"

Wait, this is a WHYI thread now?

[ESFitness]

Dear dumb ass fuck, are you really mentally handicapped or something? When you do something like squats, what is your weakest link in that range of motion? Quads, which are able to press thousand pounds in leg press, or hips and back? You have more strength in your legs than you have your back and gluteus, because you don't train them properly. There is old thumb rule about the matter, which says that you must be able to do same reps of good morning with half of your squat weights, than you do squats with full weight. Like 20 reps with 140kg squat = 20 reps of 70kg good mornings. That way you can maintain balance between these muscles, and hips and back isn't the weakest link in your squat. Therefor the point is that if you do it right, squats are best exercise for quads, and if you do it like a moron, it is waste of time.

that's not accurate.

if that were true, champion, world record squatters would use a high-bar,narrow stance for squats to "turn off" the hips/glutes/hams..

but, they don't... they use a wide stance and initate the movement (with a low bar) to DE-EMPHASIZE the quads and focus on the hips and glutes.

hips/glutes/hamps are FAR SUPRIOR strength-wise than quads.

quads are the weak link.

[deceiver]

that's not accurate.

if that were true, champion, world record squatters would use a high-bar,narrow stance for squats to "turn off" the hips/glutes/hams..

but, they don't... they use a wide stance and initate the movement (with a low bar) to DE-EMPHASIZE the quads and focus on the hips and glutes.

hips/glutes/hamps are FAR SUPRIOR strength-wise than quads.

quads are the weak link.

Well, you're wrong and right. Wide stance works for some, mostly for equipped lifters.

This is world record squat in IPF. 400kg, stance is wide but not ultra wide. This is best raw squat in the history (of IPF)

The reason why olympic lifters do not have best squat in the world is that they don't (can't) use as much PEDs as everyone else. They just use dianabol and test because they are tested extensively.

In gold soviet era when everyone abused PEDs:

http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/sportivny/library/news/nv005.html

B.C. What strength exercises do you favor?
Taranenko: The back squat is the most important strength exercise. I usually squat every day, sometimes more than once-a-day. My best back squat is 380 kg (837 lbs). But this is with a two-second pause at the bottom.

http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/sportivny/library/farticles004.html

The author witnessed the Soviet superheavyweight Aslanbek Yenaldiev pinned with a 240 kg clean at the 1979 Spartakiade. He tried bouncing 6 - 8 times but was physically unable to recover form the squat. He was the "champion squatter" among the soviet lifters with a 455 kg back squat (23).

Many soviets could squat well over 400kg with narrow-medium stance and high bar.

300kg atg squat @ 82.5kg... No powerlifters can beat that.

The reasons why powerlifters use low bar are:

 - low bar uses just a little bit less quads and more hams and lower back. hams are fast-twitch dominant, quads are 50-50, glutes are slow twitch dominant.
 - best powerlifters are naturally strong in deadlift, low bar has greater carry-over from deads than high bar

[dj181]

most importantly

thigh dominant physique looks bad


they need to be decent and seperated


but not distract from the upper body

agreed

and bigass wheels with narrowass shoulders is the absolute worst combo

and btw, deceiver knows what he's talking about

[Ropo]

that's not accurate.

if that were true, champion, world record squatters would use a high-bar,narrow stance for squats to "turn off" the hips/glutes/hams..

but, they don't... they use a wide stance and initate the movement (with a low bar) to DE-EMPHASIZE the quads and focus on the hips and glutes.

hips/glutes/hamps are FAR SUPRIOR strength-wise than quads.

quads are the weak link.

So, you are some how unable to understand, that champions and world record squatters doesn't have same problems as getbig asshats and fucking imbeciles has? Champions has include correct muscle balance in their training routines as the first thing after their childhood, and dumbfucks like anabholico doesn't even know the meaning of the word. Have you ever seen the guy starting the rise from squat, and his torso doesn't seem to be rising in same synch with his ass? Like this asshole here:

Not enough strength in midsection to do it right, so his lower back is weakest link.

[nasht5]

for i feel it is true what they say but wonder why


when you squat with 100kg you can somehow make it feel like pure quadriceps


when you squat with 140kg or something to the same depth it actually feels like still quads but also hips and back


therefor what is the point of heavy squats for quads


and why is this

you wouldn't understand.