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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #50 on: December 31, 2013, 05:05:30 AM »

I dont see 60% anywhere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States



Yes Obama wants to enslave you by health insurance. Great plan ::)


Stfu.   You know nothing at all.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #51 on: December 31, 2013, 05:13:18 AM »

Stfu.   You know nothing at all.

Is this how you present your arguments in court?

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #52 on: December 31, 2013, 05:26:53 AM »
Is this how you present your arguments in court?

State and local taxes - look it up dummie

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #53 on: December 31, 2013, 06:12:27 AM »

I dont see 60% anywhere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States



Yes Obama wants to enslave you by health insurance. Great plan ::)

I think I'll just write you off as one of more dumber libs on this board.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #54 on: December 31, 2013, 06:19:13 AM »

Even though the US have the most costly healthcare many people are not even covered.

Great system.

The peanuts you will be forced to pay may correct this but as the unresponsible person you are you will probably just let it sail and leave the bill to others. You hate liberals but honestly you display the worst qualities the stereotyped liberal possess. Go figure.

Bears you come on here as mighty business man claiming we libs dont know shit but honestly you are being quite exposed here. Your overall knowledge about the state of healthcare leaves a great deal to be desired.



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/10/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries.html


http://people.howstuffworks.com/why-pursue-health-reform1.htm


http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2013/09/us-health-care/

Roughly 15-20mil have no coverage out of 320 or so million. Out of the 15-20mil how many do you suppose are playing the system that are able bodied? Shit PBS won't tell you!

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #55 on: December 31, 2013, 07:03:39 AM »
I think I'll just write you off as one of more dumber libs on this board.

That is an understatement.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #56 on: December 31, 2013, 07:52:04 AM »

Even though the US have the most costly healthcare many people are not even covered.

Great system.

The peanuts you will be forced to pay may correct this but as the unresponsible person you are you will probably just let it sail and leave the bill to others. You hate liberals but honestly you display the worst qualities the stereotyped liberal possess. Go figure.

Bears you come on here as mighty business man claiming we libs dont know shit but honestly you are being quite exposed here. Your overall knowledge about the state of healthcare leaves a great deal to be desired.



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/10/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries.html


http://people.howstuffworks.com/why-pursue-health-reform1.htm


http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2013/09/us-health-care/

mighty businessman?  when did I ever claim that?  

and quite exposed here?  coming from the guy who referenced mother fucking Wikipedia to discuss US income tax law?  holy fuck you're getting stupider by the minute.

 

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #57 on: December 31, 2013, 07:54:05 AM »
State and local taxes - look it up dummie

and sales taxes too.  liberals are preyed upon by these politicians because they choose not to pay attention to how many taxes they're paying.  I see it every day.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #58 on: December 31, 2013, 08:06:36 AM »

I dont see 60% anywhere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States



Yes Obama wants to enslave you by health insurance. Great plan ::)

and again.  whork go to a tax professional for tax information, not Wikipedia.  (pretty ridiculous that I actually had to type that sentence)  let's take a guy who lives in Illinois and makes $2,000,000 in wages during 2013.  he's paying 39.6% of federal tax on $1.6 million, 10% Illinois tax, and every cent he uses to buy anything in his state he's paying another 9.75% at least depending on where in Illinois he lives.  i'm not even counting local taxes, county taxes, and Chicago entertainment taxes he's paying if he lives in the city.

you see you're using yahoo articles to learn about tax.  stop.  get a masters in tax.  learn how to navigate the IRC.  then come back and talk to me whork.  you're a cheerleader.  period.  I don't hate liberals.  I hate know nothing liberals who spread misinformation.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2014, 10:02:23 AM »
and again.  whork go to a tax professional for tax information, not Wikipedia.  (pretty ridiculous that I actually had to type that sentence)  let's take a guy who lives in Illinois and makes $2,000,000 in wages during 2013.  he's paying 39.6% of federal tax on $1.6 million, 10% Illinois tax, and every cent he uses to buy anything in his state he's paying another 9.75% at least depending on where in Illinois he lives.  i'm not even counting local taxes, county taxes, and Chicago entertainment taxes he's paying if he lives in the city.

you see you're using yahoo articles to learn about tax.  stop.  get a masters in tax.  learn how to navigate the IRC.  then come back and talk to me whork.  you're a cheerleader.  period.  I don't hate liberals.  I hate know nothing liberals who spread misinformation.

If you calculate it like that we pay alot more in Europe also.

And with these rates it just makes the Obamacare tax seem symbolic to say the least. What are you whining about? Like i said many times its peanuts.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2014, 10:35:40 AM »
the libtards who voted for him are very suprised

I remember a couple of the retards on this board saying back in 2008, "No one on this board will be paying more taxes under Obama."   ::)
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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2014, 07:45:16 AM »
I remember a couple of the retards on this board saying back in 2008, "No one on this board will be paying more taxes under Obama."   ::)


which was false.  but all the libs rationalize another tax increase by saying "its peanuts".  who cares.  their ideology blinds them into forgiving everything to stay loyal to their master.  my question is this.  if tis peanuts, what is the magic number where its OK for us to stay stop?  whats the most we should be paying?  60% ???  70% ???  and then what if that's not enough?

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2014, 11:34:44 AM »
If you calculate it like that we pay alot more in Europe also.

And with these rates it just makes the Obamacare tax seem symbolic to say the least. What are you whining about? Like i said many times its peanuts.


so yeah we are paying pretty comparable taxes to your country then.  and i see no reason to believe that taxes aren't going up again next year, and the next year.....

so again.  when are we allowed to say stop?

now when your country even comes close to sending the amount of foreign aid that the US does every year, year after year, you can give me shit for bitching about it.  until then STFU.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2014, 02:18:26 PM »
so yeah we are paying pretty comparable taxes to your country then.  and i see no reason to believe that taxes aren't going up again next year, and the next year.....

so again.  when are we allowed to say stop?

now when your country even comes close to sending the amount of foreign aid that the US does every year, year after year, you can give me shit for bitching about it.  until then STFU.

Actually we pay more relative our number of citizens. But that doesnt matter in this debate.

The new taxes on one customer’s bill added up to $23.14 a month, or $277.68 annually, according to Kaiser Health News. It boosted the monthly premium from $322.26 to $345.40 for that individual.

That is peanuts and the money will pay itself in by a healthier population.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2014, 02:37:37 PM »
I say lower taxes 50% and that lets paycheck takeout be reduced 50% and lower gov spending 85%

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2014, 02:45:38 PM »
Actually we pay more relative our number of citizens. But that doesnt matter in this debate.

The new taxes on one customer’s bill added up to $23.14 a month, or $277.68 annually, according to Kaiser Health News. It boosted the monthly premium from $322.26 to $345.40 for that individual.

That is peanuts and the money will pay itself in by a healthier population.

aw.  that's cute.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2014, 03:10:41 PM »
Actually we pay more relative our number of citizens. But that doesnt matter in this debate.

The new taxes on one customer’s bill added up to $23.14 a month, or $277.68 annually, according to Kaiser Health News. It boosted the monthly premium from $322.26 to $345.40 for that individual.

That is peanuts and the money will pay itself in by a healthier population.

you're also ignoring a shit ton of tax increases during 2013 that your little article is not discussing.  so you're just plain wrong about the costs being peanuts to middle class America.  but again you don't want the truth.  you're becoming laughable.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2014, 06:41:06 AM »
you're also ignoring a shit ton of tax increases during 2013 that your little article is not discussing.  so you're just plain wrong about the costs being peanuts to middle class America.  but again you don't want the truth.  you're becoming laughable.

What 2013 tax increases?

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #68 on: January 03, 2014, 06:49:58 AM »
Actually we pay more relative our number of citizens. But that doesnt matter in this debate.

The new taxes on one customer’s bill added up to $23.14 a month, or $277.68 annually, according to Kaiser Health News. It boosted the monthly premium from $322.26 to $345.40 for that individual.

That is peanuts and the money will pay itself in by a healthier population.

Health Insurance does not equal health moron. 

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2014, 07:12:01 AM »
Health Insurance does not equal health moron. 

Easy on the retard.

He has yet to learn how to read.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2014, 07:43:15 AM »
What 2013 tax increases?

typical liberal ignorance.  just because the tax tables don't increase for a particular range of AGI doesn't mean that total income taxes don't go up for those taxpayers.  phase out amounts and maximum credit amounts have been reduced for taxpayers in the lower brackets as well as the higher brackets for 2013. 

depending on what your situation is there is also a 3.87% tax on sales of property for 2013.  for most people who sold their principal residences, this isn't a problem as they have their exclusion.  but for the taxpayers who have rental properties this can be a big hit. 

and in spite of what the liberal media likes to tell you, people who own more than 1 piece of property aren't all rich white guys.  but you'll probably chalk up that 3.87% as peanuts right?  another tax you're going to forgive?     

see each tax taken by itself never seems like much.  but my job is to prepare tax returns, where people see their bottom line.  did they have enough paid in?  or do they owe?  why do they owe?  clients don't care about each tax imposed on them.  they care about the check they have to write on April 15th.  and these things add up.  faster than most think. 

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2014, 09:07:44 AM »
What 2013 tax increases?

also tax breaks for rich AND FOR MIDDLE INCOME TAXPAYERS that expired under the bush tax cuts ARE INCREASES IN TAX.  these facts are lost on us in the political jibber jabber.  just because Obama didn't impose a higher tax rate doesn't mean that taxes did not increase.  they did.

and I really shouldn't be an asshole to you and claim that you're stupid.  because you're not.  if I wasn't in tax accounting I would think the same shit.  because by reading the internet and newspapers, a rational person would believe exactly what you do.

the best example is the articles written by CNN about Facebook's tax situation back in 2011 or 2012, I forget.  it's a little lengthy but I can lay it out for you if you want.  once you hear my explanation you'll always read these articles a little differently than you do now.  it's sneaky underhanded journalism at its finest.

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2014, 09:21:05 PM »
Actually we pay more relative our number of citizens. But that doesnt matter in this debate.

The new taxes on one customer’s bill added up to $23.14 a month, or $277.68 annually, according to Kaiser Health News. It boosted the monthly premium from $322.26 to $345.40 for that individual.

That is peanuts and the money will pay itself in by a healthier population.

With the ridiculous deductibles of the Obamacare plans 5,000-12,000/annual ... I suspect the opposite.  People who don't qualify for medicare won't be able to afford care at all.  I wouldn't insure my car with a 5,000 dollar deductible, you gotta be crazy to ensure your body with such.  I do suspect, the massive increase in medicare will help.  However, doctors will be scarse.  In Collin county Plano Allen and Frisco ... there are no medicare doctors.  Paul Krugman himself has admitted in February 2013, that ,massive taxes increases on the working class will be necessary as well, death panels and rationing (to make obamacare work).  The liberals got their way on this one.  So far, they have a net loss of 4 million insured americans.  If you can't see how incompetent the government is now, you never will. 

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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2014, 09:05:56 AM »
also tax breaks for rich AND FOR MIDDLE INCOME TAXPAYERS that expired under the bush tax cuts ARE INCREASES IN TAX.  these facts are lost on us in the political jibber jabber.  just because Obama didn't impose a higher tax rate doesn't mean that taxes did not increase.  they did.


Technically thats Bush fault for not making them permanent no? And with the Obamacare tax you actually get something in return on investment. The uninsured that gets insurance alone will save a lot more that the 20$ a month that we are debating here. I never understood how you can use billions on bombing a desert yet wont pay 20 $ for a good health.


and I really shouldn't be an asshole to you and claim that you're stupid.  because you're not.  if I wasn't in tax accounting I would think the same shit.  because by reading the internet and newspapers, a rational person would believe exactly what you do.

the best example is the articles written by CNN about Facebook's tax situation back in 2011 or 2012, I forget.  it's a little lengthy but I can lay it out for you if you want.  once you hear my explanation you'll always read these articles a little differently than you do now.  it's sneaky underhanded journalism at its finest.


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Re: New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.
« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2014, 10:12:04 AM »


Lmfao typical libtard mentality, bush's fault!!!!