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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2013, 06:17:01 AM »
WHUUOOAAAAAaaaaat?  ???

First, Zimmerman is found not guilty, and now this? WTF?

My heart goes out to you, liberals.  Don't do it.  Please don't!  Tomorrow might be a better day.  Just take your meds and go see your shrink.    :'(

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2013, 06:30:43 AM »

I apologize one of the many bolded parts were from him, the rest from a libtard moron like yourself who think that anyone against homosexuality is a homophobic hate monger...::)


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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2013, 07:50:52 AM »
Unlike hateful liberals, some of us have as much tolerance for an individuals long held religious beliefs as we do for their sexual orientation.

yes, I can see that classic christian TOLERANCE is Robertson's statements

Tolerance is the first thing that came to my mind when I read them

I can see you and I think alike on this issue

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2013, 07:53:02 AM »
I apologize one of the many bolded parts were from him, the rest from a libtard moron like yourself who think that anyone against homosexuality is a homophobic hate monger...::)

you're so right

I should try to be less hateful ....like good old Phil

maybe if I could just find Jesus I could learn to be less hateful and more tolerant just like Phil

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2013, 07:57:27 AM »
now we can get more pearls of wisdom like these:

Robertson thinks black Americans were treated just fine in the Jim Crow-era South, and that they were happy there.
"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

Robertson thinks the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor because they didn't believe in Jesus.
 "All you have to do is look at any society where there is no Jesus. I’ll give you four: Nazis, no Jesus. Look at their record. Uh, Shintos? They started this thing in Pearl Harbor. Any Jesus among them? None. Communists? None. Islamists? Zero. That’s eighty years of ideologies that have popped up where no Jesus was allowed among those four groups. Just look at the records as far as murder goes among those four groups."

Robertson hates gay people.
 Robertson in 2010: "Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions. They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/when-you-defend-phil-robertson-heres-what-youre-really-defending-2013-12#ixzz2oj6FVlTg

Straw Man, the author of that article is being dishonest, and so are you.

The bold letters are not Robertson's words, but that of the author's.  That's the author's opinion of what Robertson says, and what Robertson says doesn't support the bold letters.  

In the first two, Robertson is simply giving his opinion.  About African Americans, he is simply sharing his personal experience, what he saw and didn't see, and what he heard and didn't hear.  Robertson didn't say that he hates gays.  He did say however that he loves all people, including gays.  Just because he believes the Bible when it says that homosexuality is a sin, it doesn't mean that he hates gays and it's not what he said.

The last part are not Robertson's words.  Those are direct quotes from the Bible.

Liberals keep twisting Robertson's words and putting words in his mouth that he never said.  It is perfectly normal for someone who believes that the Bible is the word of God to believe that God disapproves of the homosexual life style.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2013, 08:00:06 AM »
Straw Man, the author of that article is being dishonest, and so are you.

The bold letters are not Robertson's words, but that of the author's.
 That's the author's opinion of what Robertson says, and what Robertson says doesn't support the bold letters.  

In the first two, Robertson is simply giving his opinion.  About African Americans, he is simply sharing his personal experience, what he saw and didn't see, and what he heard and didn't hear.  Robertson didn't say that he hates gays.  He did say however that he loves all people, including gays.  Just because he believes the Bible when it says that homosexuality is a sin, it doesn't mean that he dates gays and it's not what he said.

The last part are not Robertson's words.  Those are direct quotes from the Bible.

Liberals keep twisting Robertson's words and putting words in his mouth that he never said.  It is perfectly normal for someone who believes that the Bible is the word of God to believe that God disapproves of the homosexual life style.

no shit dumbass

that's why Robertsons words are in quotation marks

The first two of Robertsons beliefs are moronic (assuming one actually knows even a little bit about history)

His last statement is just pure white hot HATRED

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2013, 08:01:47 AM »
no shit dumbass

What's with the hate and name calling?  You are melting all over the place.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2013, 08:05:38 AM »
What's with the hate and name calling?  You are melting all over the place.

sorry,  you're right

I should have said you are  "full of murder, envy, strife, hatred." That you are "insolent, arrogant" and a  "God-hater".
I should have also mentioned that you are are "heartless" and "faithless" and "senseless"  and "ruthless" and that you "invent ways of doing evil."

Thanks for your tolerance and understanding

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2013, 08:11:37 AM »
sorry,  you're right

I should have said you are  "full of murder, envy, strife, hatred." That you are "insolent, arrogant" and a  "God-hater".
I should have also mentioned that you are are "heartless" and "faithless" and "senseless"  and "ruthless" and that you "invent ways of doing evil."

Thanks for your tolerance and understanding

Oh, boy!

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2013, 08:13:46 AM »
Oh, boy!

come on loco

you know I'm not a christian so I don't have the benefit of having the tolerance and compassion of you and Phil so when I use Phils own words it might not sound as tolerant and full of the love of Jesus as it would when the very same words are said by such a devout christian


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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2013, 08:19:54 AM »
come on loco

you know I'm not a christian so I don't have the benefit of having the tolerance and compassion of you and Phil so when I use Phils own words it might not sound as tolerant and full of the love of Jesus as it would when the very same words are said by such a devout christian



Those are quotes form the Bible, not his words.  By the way, Gays were calling for his suspension from the show because of what he said in a GQ interview, right?  Why are you liberals now bringing up stuff he said in 2010?  Why didn't you bring it up then?  Because twisting his words and lying about what he said in GQ didn't work, did it?  Typical lying liberals.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2013, 08:22:44 AM »
Those are quotes form the Bible, not his words.  By the way, Gays were calling for his suspension from the show because of what he said in a GQ interview, right?  Why are you liberals now bringing up stuff he said in 2010?  Why didn't you bring it up then?  Because twisting his words and laying about what he said in GQ didn't work, did it?  Typical lying liberals.

I'm obviously not as familiar with the bible and you and phil

can you tell me the exact sections of the bible that those quotes are from

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2013, 08:32:56 AM »
I'm obviously not as familiar with the bible and you and phil

can you tell me the exact sections of the bible that those quotes are from

Not as familiar with the Bible as me and Phil?  Anyone who knows anything about the Bible, theist or atheist, gay or straight, knows that these aren't his own words, but instead quotes from the Bible.  So you jumped the gun and believed the dishonest author of this article and posted it here without first getting your facts straight.

Romans 1:25-31
New International Version (NIV)


25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2013, 08:46:28 AM »
Not as familiar with the Bible as me and Phil?  Anyone who knows anything about the Bible, theist or atheist, gay or straight, knows that these aren't his own words, but instead quotes from the Bible.  So you jumped the gun and believed the dishonest author of this article and posted it here without first getting your facts straight.

Romans 1:25-31
New International Version (NIV)


25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

Sounds like modern Western Society with a little help from Madison Avenue, and those who do "God's work"
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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2013, 08:47:46 AM »
Not as familiar with the Bible as me and Phil?  Anyone who knows anything about the Bible, theist or atheist, gay or straight, knows that these aren't his own words, but instead quotes from the Bible.  So you jumped the gun and believed the author of the article and posted it here without first getting your facts straight.

Romans 1:25-30
New International Version (NIV)


25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;

I knew you would be able to find it (hint - I've already read what Phil was supposedly "quoting")

As I'm sure you know, this is just your and Phils interpretation

you can find other who interpret it differently.  I would post them all here but I doubt it would make any difference so let's cut to the main point

If I understand you (and other correctly) we should be tolerant of Phils statements (and by extension the bible) even if those statements are full of hatred and intolerance.

Is that your basic premise that we should be tolerant of his religious beliefs even if we personally find them hateful, intolerant and stupid?


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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2013, 08:51:05 AM »
I knew you would be able to find it (hint - I've already read what Phil was supposedly "quoting")

As I'm sure you know, this is just your and Phils interpretation

you can find other who interpret it differently.  I would post them all here but I doubt it would make any difference so let's cut to the main point

If I understand you (and other correctly) we should be tolerant of Phils statements (and by extension the bible) even if those statements are full of hatred and intolerance.

Is that your basic premise that we should be tolerant of his religious beliefs even if we personally find them hateful, intolerant and stupid?

Stop twisting and spinning.  You said those were his own words and full of hate.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #41 on: December 28, 2013, 09:00:09 AM »
Stop twisting and spinning.  You said those were his own words and full of hate.

those quotes were his own words

they were not the exact quotes from the bible

now answer my question and if you really want to we can even talk about what others have interpreted that passage and the others that followed it (hint hint) to be what Paul was really saying. 

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« Reply #42 on: December 28, 2013, 09:09:05 AM »
those quotes were his own words

they were not the exact quotes from the bible

now answer my question and if you really want to we can even talk about what others have interpreted that passage and the others that followed it (hint hint) to be what Paul was really saying.  

You thought those were his own words.  You had no idea they are quotes from the Bible.  I gave you the benefit of the doubt and concluded you were misled by the dishonest author.  But now I see you are being dishonest too.

This guy from Duck Dynasty never said he hates gays.  On the contrary, he said that he loves all people including gays.

Gays were calling for his suspension from the show because of what he said in a GQ interview, right?  Why are you liberals now bringing up stuff he said in 2010?  Why didn't you bring it up then?  Because twisting his words and lying about what he said in GQ didn't work, did it?

Stop lying, spinning and twisting.  The guy was suspended and reinstated.  Give it up and stop melting down.  

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #43 on: December 28, 2013, 09:13:09 AM »
You thought those were his own words.  You had now idea they are quotes from the Bible.  I gave you the benefit of the doubt and concluded you were misled by the dishonest author.  But now I see you are being dishonest too.

This guy from Duck Dynasty never said he hates gays.  On the contrary, he said that he loves all people including gays.

Gays were calling for his suspension from the show because of what he said in a GQ interview, right?  Why are you liberals now bringing up stuff he said in 2010?  Why didn't you bring it up then?  Because twisting his words and lying about what he said in GQ didn't work, did it?

Stop lying, spinning and twisting.  The guys was suspended and reinstated.  Give it up and stop melting down. 

again, I knew what Phil was referring to (you don't think this shit has been talked about already) and of course those are his own words which is why I asked you to show provide me the bible "quote" to show in fact it was his "interpretation" of a passage in the bible (and in fact it's a classic misunderstanding of what Paul was saying but that's very common among many christians, especially the dumbest of your crowd)

now why are you dodging my simple question

I'll repeat it for you again

If I understand you (and other correctly) we should be tolerant of Phils statements (and by extension the bible) even if those statements are full of hatred and intolerance.

Is that your basic premise that we should be tolerant of his religious beliefs even if we personally find them hateful, intolerant and stupid?


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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2013, 09:29:57 AM »
you're so right

I should try to be less hateful ....like good old Phil

maybe if I could just find Jesus I could learn to be less hateful and more tolerant just like Phil
where did he say he hated them? as a matter of fact he has said quite the opposite, but you and your libtard ilk will continue to ignore that and push your idiocy

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2013, 09:39:39 AM »
where did he say he hated them? as a matter of fact he has said quite the opposite, but you and your libtard ilk will continue to ignore that and push your idiocy

yeah, he just called them "full of murder, envy, strife, hatred."  And that they were "heartless" and "faithless" and "senseless"  and "ruthless "God-haters".

I totally see your point

If I said that about christians or Republicans you would take that as a sign that I liked them

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2013, 09:43:43 AM »
again, I knew what Phil was referring to (you don't think this shit has been talked about already) and of course those are his own words which is why I asked you to show provide me the bible "quote" to show in fact it was his "interpretation" of a passage in the bible (and in fact it's a classic misunderstanding of what Paul was saying but that's very common among many christians, especially the dumbest of your crowd)

now why are you dodging my simple question

I'll repeat it for you again

If I understand you (and other correctly) we should be tolerant of Phils statements (and by extension the bible) even if those statements are full of hatred and intolerance.

Is that your basic premise that we should be tolerant of his religious beliefs even if we personally find them hateful, intolerant and stupid?



What's with the name calling?  You really believe I'm dumb?  Why?  Wait, now you are saying those are his own words again?  Look, you liberals lied and twisted his words to get your way and it didn't work.  Stop the twisting and spinning.  He never said that he hates gays.

And what would you know about what the apostle Paul meant when you thought those were Phil's own words to begin with?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2013, 09:45:47 AM »
What's with the name calling?  You really believe I'm dumb?  Why?  Wait, now you are saying those are his own words again?  Look, you liberals lied and twisted his words to get your way and it didn't work.  Stop the twisting and spinning.  He never said that he hates gays.

And what would you know about what the apostle Paul meant when you thought those were Phil's own words to begin with?

those are his own words and also his own interpretation (same goes for the other quotes by Phil which is why they are in quotation marks)

why do you keep dodging my question

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Re: Duck Dynasty Saga Ends. Phil Robertson Back On A&E
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2013, 09:54:42 AM »
yeah, he just called them "full of murder, envy, strife, hatred."  And that they were "heartless" and "faithless" and "senseless"  and "ruthless "God-haters".

I totally see your point

If I said that about christians or Republicans you would take that as a sign that I liked them
so again you ignore all his other comments and focus on that?

I agree you should be more like phil robertson but then that would require you to be tolerant of others beliefs which we know libtards dont do.

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« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2013, 09:58:50 AM »
those are his own words and also his own interpretation (same goes for the other quotes by Phil which is why they are in quotation marks)

why do you keep dodging my question

Why are you dodging my all my questions?  What are Phl's words?  What is his interpretation?  Why do you allow this Duck Dynasty guy to own your mind?