Steph Daniels: Since you've been around pretty much all of modern MMA's history, as well as the dark ages, how do you view the current land scape?
Josh Barnett: I think we're on a bubble. We've gotten to quite a high level with interest and saturation, but I think we're at a bubble where we're really floating around the ceiling, and we're just not quite there to break through, and go to that next level.
What's necessary to get past that, is a complex question, and would involve a lot of speculation, but I do think that we're at a ceiling right now, and we need to find a way to get through that.