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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #100 on: January 01, 2014, 04:18:16 AM »
It is just the natural evolution of UFC and MMA .. it will take another 20-30 years to get to Boxing levels as far as payment.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #101 on: January 01, 2014, 05:33:10 AM »
where does all the money go,someone is getting very rich on these fighters
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #102 on: January 01, 2014, 05:52:13 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on December 31, 2013, 11:12:39 AM
Boxing is much more interesting.  UFC is boring.
No way.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #103 on: January 01, 2014, 05:58:58 AM »
boxers grow up boxing and it shows .. in mma you have "world champs" with shitty boxing, shitty leg kicks, shitty wrestling or shitty ju jitsu .. when we'll see fighters who grew up practicing mma and good in all these aspects, then we'll have a high level of competition. Right now I don't see high level.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #104 on: January 01, 2014, 09:45:17 AM »
Quote from: no one on December 31, 2013, 05:32:14 PM
exactly. a lot of people want to hate on white. these guys are lining up to fight for what is relatively peanuts. whos to blame?



lack of options, no education, the economy, previous trouble with the law, no marketable skills etc...... the list is endless
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #105 on: January 01, 2014, 09:46:13 AM »
Quote from: f450 on January 01, 2014, 09:45:17 AM
lack of options, no education, the economy, previous trouble with the law, no marketable skills etc...... the list is endless
Desire to compete in MMA and UFC being the premier MMA organization.
People aren't competing in the UFC because they're convicts or dumbasses with no job prospects.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #106 on: January 01, 2014, 10:25:44 AM »
On average, they estimated the UFC pays fighters roughly 10 percent of the revenue generated from its live eventsThe percentage of event-generated revenue that goes to a boxer could be as high as 85 percent, DiBella said.

"A 70/30 deal is completely common," DiBella said, meaning 70 percent of the revenue generated from the fight goes to the boxer, the remaining 30 percent to the promoter.





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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #107 on: January 01, 2014, 12:46:31 PM »
They don't need more money. Fights are boring enough as it is.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #108 on: January 01, 2014, 02:27:35 PM »
Quote from: Cleanest Natural on January 01, 2014, 04:18:16 AM
It is just the natural evolution of UFC and MMA .. it will take another 20-30 years to get to Boxing levels as far as payment.

Only the top guys and legends make a lot of money in boxing. The top ufc guys with their pay per view revenue make more than average boxers. St pierre probably made over 10 milion last year and then you include sponsors which most boxers don't have.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #109 on: January 02, 2014, 09:04:47 AM »
Quote from: asbrus on January 01, 2014, 02:27:35 PM
Only the top guys and legends make a lot of money in boxing. The top ufc guys with their pay per view revenue make more than average boxers. St pierre probably made over 10 milion last year and then you include sponsors which most boxers don't have.

but if you compare apples to apples the top boxers make more money.mayweather made 80 million his last fight with pay per view
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #110 on: January 02, 2014, 03:23:17 PM »
Quote from: blacken700 on January 02, 2014, 09:04:47 AM
but if you compare apples to apples the top boxers make more money.mayweather made 80 million his last fight with pay per view

obviously. The reason is because ufc is owned by a corporation and boxing is not and never will be. A corporation can choose to pay it's employees whatever it wants. In boxing, The fights are made between promoters and networks unlike the ufc. Also mayweather is an anomoly in boxing. Also, ufc fighters get 1-3 dollars per pay per view buy and have lots of sponsors. The top ufc fighters are not doing much worse than than the top boxers. Anderson silva and other top fighters have net worth of around 15-20 million. On top of all this the top ufc fighter will fight 4 times more often than your top boxer which will translate into more income at the end of the year. This whole thread is just ridiclous and implies that ufc fighters are broke which is nonsense.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #111 on: January 02, 2014, 03:27:48 PM »
Quote from: asbrus on January 02, 2014, 03:23:17 PM
ufc fighters get 1-3 dollars per pay per view buy

Prove it.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #112 on: January 02, 2014, 03:29:11 PM »
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #113 on: January 02, 2014, 03:31:00 PM »
Quote from: asbrus on January 02, 2014, 03:29:11 PM
Google is your friend.

No really, tell us where you got that.

I know a bunch of fighters that do their camps at Renzo's and they all say that 95% of the UFC fighters make pennies, except for the very top guys.

Do you have a link asbrus?

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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #114 on: January 02, 2014, 03:31:20 PM »
Quote from: asbrus on January 02, 2014, 03:29:11 PM
Google is your friend.

That's what I thought . ::)
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #115 on: January 02, 2014, 03:32:36 PM »
Quote from: OneMoreRep on January 02, 2014, 03:31:00 PM
No really, tell us where you got that.

I know a bunch of fighters that do their camps at Renzo's and they all say that 95% of the UFC fighters make pennies, except for the very top guys.

Do you have a link asbrus?

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Happy New Year my friend.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #116 on: January 02, 2014, 03:37:22 PM »
Quote from: che on January 02, 2014, 03:32:36 PM
Happy New Year my friend.

Happy new year bro!

Espero que la pases bien querido amigo!

Che, have you heard of John Cholish? He is one of the many Pro MMA fighters from the UFC that train at Renzo's. He is probably one of the most blunt individuals you can speak to about the UFC's ridiculously low pay. He will tell you, as will most of them, unless they are on contract, that the UFC rapes them unless you're a top 3 guy in the different divisions.

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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #117 on: January 02, 2014, 03:41:59 PM »
Quote from: OneMoreRep on January 02, 2014, 03:37:22 PM
Happy new year bro!

Espero que la pases bien querido amigo!

Che, have you heard of John Cholish? He is one of the many Pro MMA fighters from the UFC that train at Renzo's. He is probably one of the most blunt individuals you can speak to about the UFC's ridiculously low pay. He will tell you, as will most of them, unless they are on contract, that the UFC rapes them unless you're a top 3 guy in the different divisions.

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I've never heard of him , but I know  4 UFC fighters from here and what John Cholish is  saying is absolutely true .
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #118 on: January 02, 2014, 03:43:56 PM »
Quote from: che on January 02, 2014, 03:41:59 PM
I've never heard of him , but I know  4 UFC fighters from here and what John Cholish is  saying is absolutely true.

The whole shit is run by a bunch of gangsters and corporate bullies.

Also, the right people in the industry have special influence and can get any fighter of their choice into the UFC.

Ask me via PM if curious as to what I'm talking about.

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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #119 on: January 02, 2014, 03:45:00 PM »
Quote from: tommywishbone on December 30, 2013, 05:51:05 PM
Embarrassing. Pitiful. Shameful. Misha sold $10,000,000 in PPV buys alone and she was paid $28,000. Disgraceful.



Champ Chris Weidman: $400,000 (includes $200,000 win bonus)
 def. Anderson Silva: $600,000

Champ Ronda Rousey: $100,000 (includes $50,000 win bonus)
 def. Miesha Tate: $28,000

Travis Browne: $56,000 (includes $28,000 win bonus)
 def. Josh Barnett: $170,000

Jim Miller: $92,000 (includes $46,000 win bonus)
 def. Fabricio Camoes: $8,000

Dustin Poirier: $46,000 (includes $23,000 win bonus)
 def. Diego Brandao: $20,000*

Uriah Hall: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
 def. Chris Leben: $51,000

Michael Johnson: $36,000 (includes $18,000 win bonus)
 def. Gleison Tibau: $39,000

Dennis Siver: $66,000 (includes $33,000 win bonus)
 def. Manny Gamburyan: $25,000

John Howard: $32,000 (includes $16,000 win bonus)
 def. Siyar Bahadurzada: $17,000

William Macario: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
 def. Bobby Voelker: $12,000

Robert Peralta: $24,000 (includes $12,000 win bonus)
 def. Estevan Payan: $10,000


still more than Mr O
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #120 on: January 02, 2014, 03:45:13 PM »
Quote from: OneMoreRep on January 02, 2014, 03:31:00 PM
No really, tell us where you got that.

I know a bunch of fighters that do their camps at Renzo's and they all say that 95% of the UFC fighters make pennies, except for the very top guys.

Do you have a link asbrus?

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http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/richest-mma-fighters-world-2013/

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/georges-stpierre-5-million-ufc-fight/



http://www.tsmplug.com/richlist/highest-earning-ufc-fighters/ - mentions pay per view bonus structure
good link. There are tons out there mentioning that the fighters get $1-3 per pay per view buy. You can see mma fighters are not doing bad. Now if we compare the worst fighters then yes they are struggling just like the worst boxers make no money. Everyone loves to bring up maywaether but he is an anomoly.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #121 on: January 02, 2014, 03:56:04 PM »
Quote from: blacken700 on January 01, 2014, 05:33:10 AM
where does all the money go,someone is getting very rich on these fighters

The money goes to the owners and executives of the UFC. Some of these big UFC fights are generating the same amount of money as any boxing match. UFC sells out the venue all the time. There PPV is through the roof. It's really disturbing what they pay the fighters. Don't tell me GSP is a millionaire. Mayweather laughs at his money. I'm sure the top business men at the UFC laugh at GSP money. The UFC really is a monopoly. Sure there are other federations but they a nothing compared to UFC.  If the fighters unionized they would just hype other fighters and continue the show.
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #122 on: January 02, 2014, 03:57:57 PM »
Quote from: OneMoreRep on January 02, 2014, 03:43:56 PM


Also, the right people in the industry have special influence and can get any fighter of their choice into the UFC.



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I know all about it bro , is not much different in boxing but boxing is a longer road and they usually get exposed before getting to the top
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #123 on: January 02, 2014, 04:07:20 PM »
Quote from: asbrus on January 02, 2014, 03:45:13 PM
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/richest-mma-fighters-world-2013/

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/georges-stpierre-5-million-ufc-fight/



http://www.tsmplug.com/richlist/highest-earning-ufc-fighters/ - mentions pay per view bonus structure
good link. There are tons out there mentioning that the fighters get $1-3 per pay per view buy. You can see mma fighters are not doing bad. Now if we compare the worst fighters then yes they are struggling just like the worst boxers make no money. Everyone loves to bring up maywaether but he is an anomoly.
Haha  get the fuck out of here
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Re: UFC 168 payroll. So embarassing it's pitiful.
« Reply #124 on: January 02, 2014, 04:27:05 PM »
Quote from: Darren Avey on December 31, 2013, 08:34:40 AM
It ll get there, within 10 years the UFC HW champ will be a bigger name than Ali, Tyson or any of those other pillow fighters.

It's early but I nominate that post as the dumbest statement of 2014
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