The offseason myth

[Mawse]

I'm only here for the 405 x 10 ass-to-floor squat video from the resident carb-loading MMA all natural stud, but Gal putting it in perspective as always.

I'm 2 days deep into 1200 cals of PSMF and hating my life already.

[Mawse]

Cool story bro, especially the conviction part.. except I have 4 herniated discs of my own and squatted 495 for a deep triple last month.

if this 'squat' is 6 inches above parallel then no need for a vid.

[wes]

Ok well let me break it down for you:

MMA Training =

-burn through a phenomenal amount of calories, muscle and glycogen
- I wore a bod pod once during a 3 and half hour session, it told me I burned through 2700 calories in that session alone (and this is a very accurate bod pod, not the cheapo shit ones)
- Let's say my BMR is something like 1800 calories and we can safely assume a normalish TDEE of 2500 calories for walking around, doing chores etc.

Therefore, if I am doing MMA training, I am going to have a TDEE of 5200 calories.

where and how the fuck do you think I can eat 5200 calories at 180lb a day if it is not going to contain a serious amount of carbs huh?

or maybe you think I can eat 5200 calories of protein and fat without fucking raping my kidneys and cholesterol???...hmmmm

The issue is that a calorie is not a calorie in my body and eating the 500g of carb which only equals 2000 of my 5200 caloric allowance to maintain weight will give me a phenomenal insulin response and make me store abdominal fat even though I will be stronger, feel full of energy etc.



Ok now lets take bodybuilding training:

-45 minute to one hour of weight training is going to burn anywhere between 400-600 calories for me.
-Again my BMR would be 1800 and lets say 2500 for other activities without training.

so lets say I eat 2500 calories a day and keep carbs to only 70g a day and get the rest from protein and fat.

Effectively I am consuming 1800-1900 calories (2500 -600 for the weight training etc)

NO CARDIO NEEDED

Bingo and perfect

This will get me lean and relatively shredded over time. (probably will need to reduce carbs and calories further but still you get the idea)


That's the catch 22 and compromise:

I don't believe anyway around this short of using PEDS

so you are right I have to decide whats more important being weak asthetic and have no sex drive to inflate my ego despite the fact I cant fuck or be around 15% BF strong as fuck, have a sex drive and have the skills to kick the shit out of someone who wants to mess with my girl who I actually can fuck because I have a sex drive and had the energy to do my MMA classes

Brutal overanalysing!!  

Chicken,eggwhites, or fish with salad or veggies 4-5 X a day with plenty of water........carb up occasionally with starchy carbs.

HTH

[Cleanest Natural]

who else thinks this gimmick, junior, is full of shit?

[MichaelScottDM]

who else thinks this gimmick, junior, is full of shit?

Starting to look that way

[Marty Champions]

lean meats and greens .. no carbs. Disgusted advocates the same.

weak bone diet that silver guy uses and he broke his leg

[wes]

who else thinks this gimmick, junior, is full of shit?

[Palpatine Q]

who else thinks this gimmick, junior, is full of shit?

X 456, 000

[Cleanest Natural]

too bad .. I asked someone the other day .. why would a guy create a gimmick and act all crazy like this? It does not make sense to me ..why spend all that energy?

[DroppingPlates]

A guy from my gym, flame on

[wes]

A guy from my gym, flame on

I have no words,except WTF ! 

[galeniko]

A guy from my gym, flame on

please please tel him personaly from me that hes a gross fatso swine,please do this.

whats he doing in the gym?janitor?

does he lift weights there?dont look the way to me

brutal fat deepness at navek area, at very least 1 inch deep, his serratus swimming in fat.

if he ever gonna diet,it gonna be hell, and it will be nothing left of off him.dj-esque arms.

[DroppingPlates]

I have no words,except WTF ! 

How can I train comfortable in my gym after seeing this?

His own comment on this vid: "Lost a little to much weight in my opinion, so I upped my protein a bit and we'll see where it takes me in 2 weeks." ...

[galeniko]

what?hes trying to gain weight?


his floor will crash under him.

his freaking kneecaps are flooded in water and fat, something usualy only seen in obese or old fat women

also, mother arms.

firthermore, epic birthgive-happy hips, a catastrophical structure for this sport.

his waist is literaly and factualy wider than his lats when he "spreads" them.

oh brother,what a monster.

he got some nerves to walk with ils

[Mawse]

good lord, now I don't feel so bad about my 6 month buffet binge..

[DroppingPlates]

please please tel him personaly from me that hes a gross fatso swine,please do this.

whats he doing in the gym?janitor?

does he lift weights there?dont look the way to me

brutal fat deepness at navek area, at very least 1 inch deep, his serratus swimming in fat.

if he ever gonna diet,it gonna be hell, and it will be nothing left of off him.dj-esque arms.

Yes, he even lifts. His style isn't perfect, but not that bad compared with most gym rats.
You're right, telling him the truth might hurt, but it could help him. I'm glad I trains earlier on the evening since his perma look hurts my eye (no homo).

[O.Z.]

There is plenty of muscle under that fat. A few months on 1300-1500 calories, plenty of cardio and he you would look great.

[galeniko]

Yes, he even lifts. His style isn't perfect, but not that bad compared with most gym rats.
You're right, telling him the truth might hurt, but it could help him. I'm glad I trains earlier on the evening since his perma look hurts my eye (no homo).

HAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

forget the fattie, look at the guy ont he machine next to him at 2:07min in the vid hahahahahahahahhahahaha


dear lord what a monster, barn door-esque width hahaha.

brutal dedication in face, the eye of the tiger hahahahahha.


id interrupt his set and ask him hey bro do you even lift

[C-BuZz]

Just to let you know I haven't forgotten this thread super busy at work right now, everything I said I will do.

I am getting sick and tired of the insinuations, none of you know the first thing about me or my character. I actually feel insulted by some of the stuff being said.

"I am weak", "I lack discipline", "the old carb excuse" blah blah blah.

Let's be clear, you morons juice up and get into shape and somehow think you are so special and head and heels above the rest of the athletic community.

Let me tell you some home truths, not one of you motherfackers can roll with me even when I am natty and your on 4 grams of gear a week from a fuctional or cardio training point of view.

Anyway I really shouldn't let myself get irritated and annoyed with such none sense but yeah it really pissed me off when people talk shit and don't know the first thing about anything.


The sad part really is that there is nothing that we are actually disagreeing here about.

I have stated on this thread numerous times when I go low carbs i lose a lot of fat and weight.....this is always been the case.

The other part of the equation you don't see is that when you going low carb (like I have many times and currently doing) you son of a bitches are not working out intense for 4 hours a day doing MMA and shit, you doing your pussy 45 minutes weights + walking on a treadmill like an elephant at 3 kilometers and hour not to mention the fact you all juice and then you wanna call me out and take shots at me??

Get real.
 

Stop bitching about juicing you friggin baby. These guy's have given you some excellent info (natty or enhanced makes no difference) & your still bitching about low carbs/losing muscle bullshit. Your not the special snowflake you think you are.

Life time natty Muay Thai figher/lifter. This pic was nearly a year ago, I'm  leaner now still 200LB & I'm almost 40years old. You got no excuses.


Yes, I've been fat before (240LB) so I know exactly what it's like.

[cephissus]

never short on laughs when cbuzz decides to post pics

[galeniko]

never short on laughs when cbuzz decides to post pics

he actualy looks solidly improved in that pic.

if he lost the remaining abs fat, would look very good swimmer look.

no joke.

[wes]

Every time I get to wondering why I even keep training,I`m gonna` remember these vids that DP put up and train my ass off! 

[C-BuZz]

he actualy looks solidly improved in that pic.

if he lost the remaining abs fat, would look very good swimmer look.

no joke.

That pic is a year old. I'll have to post an updated one just for you Gal  Leaner now @ same bodyweight.

[sean]

This might be one of the most comprehensive threads in GB history! 

[galeniko]

There is plenty of muscle under that fat. A few months on 1300-1500 calories, plenty of cardio and he you would look great.

hahaha "he-you"


no serious,the guy has good steroid thickness, much bloof, and hes waaay waaaaay to fat.hes doing things bit wrong, but dieted down he will lok good.

he got plenty of mass.

Every time I get to wondering why I even keep training,I`m gonna` remember these vids that DP put up and train my ass off! 

man, check out the other guy at 2minutes 7 seconds on the sitng bench press thing hahahaha.

id ask him what kind of cancer he got, or if its a case of lepra

fucking hell i seen female catwalk anorexic models more muscular than him

That pic is a year old. I'll have to post an updated one just for you Gal  Leaner now @ same bodyweight.

go ahead