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Old-School RAW thoughts:
« on: January 07, 2014, 08:20:15 AM »
Let's open up a discussion:

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Anybody stomach the show long enough to see Jake's appearance at the end? I wondered if he'd be there with DDP appearing. He looked decent; not grotesquely fat, appropriately dressed with a fitting haircut.

What I really wonder is if there's now a chance the Fed will use him in some capacity like he's been hinting at over the last few months.

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Arn Anderson got a nice pop last night, too. He certainly deserves it, and  I'm sure being south of the Mason-Dixon Line didn't hurt, either. Good for him!

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Nikolai looked happy and healthy. I believe he still lives in the Baltimore area; I have family down there who used to regularly run into him. But, I was a bit surprised Iron Sheik was absent.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2014, 09:04:57 AM »
I got home late and caught the last few minutes. Seeing Jake, made me think that it's nice to see he's gotten his sh!t together, for now, but, from a wrestling standpoint, a late middle-aged Jake Roberts coming down the aisle did not project a feeling of impending doom, even with Damien in tow.

I do want to see the segment with Piper and his heir apparent Dean Ambrose.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2014, 09:14:35 AM »
I got home late and caught the last few minutes. Seeing Jake, made me think that it's nice to see he's gotten his sh!t together, for now, but, from a wrestling standpoint, a late middle-aged Jake Roberts coming down the aisle did not project a feeling of impending doom, even with Damien in tow.

I do want to see the segment with Piper and his heir apparent Dean Ambrose.


Piper looked pretty plump; thereby squashing any rumors I've heard of a match involving him and Hogan at Mania. I thought last night's Pit segment was a tad weak. It felt rushed, and the audience didn't seem very into it. But, to be fair, it seems that audience apathy has been common in recent years in general - at least from what I've seen, and compared to years prior to that.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2014, 07:24:48 PM »
I do want to see the segment with Piper and his heir apparent Dean Ambrose.

I can't stand Ambrose.  He's trying too hard to play the on-the-edge, slightly unhinged character, and it's not convincing at all.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2014, 07:47:24 PM »
I thought it stunk. No Austin...HBK...Mankind.. .Rock...all major players in getting Raw ratings.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2014, 07:56:58 PM »
I thought it stunk. No Austin...HBK...Mankind.. .Rock...all major players in getting Raw THEIR HIGHEST EVER ratings.


Fixed.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2014, 08:16:47 PM »

Fixed.
Yes well with Levesque running the ship and Vince losing his mind now is the perfect opportunity to start up a new promotion.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2014, 08:33:01 PM »
Yes well with Levesque running the ship and Vince losing his mind now is the perfect opportunity to start up a new promotion.



Ooh... Is the old man losing it for real?

Come on, spill the beans if you know something!

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2014, 04:58:02 AM »


Ooh... Is the old man losing it for real?

Come on, spill the beans if you know something!
no competition.  Therefore he can produce garbage product and forcefeed it to the people.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2014, 06:28:21 AM »
no competition.  Therefore he can produce garbage product and forcefeed it to the people.


Agree.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2014, 09:58:35 AM »
During the Jake bit, Dean Ambrose appeared to be laughing while the snake was on top of him.

According to Jake, this was because Punk said "The snake just took a sh!t on your chest."

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2014, 11:17:25 AM »
During the Jake bit, Dean Ambrose appeared to be laughing while the snake was on top of him.

According to Jake, this was because Punk said "The snake just took a sh!t on your chest."
lol...I thought I saw Ambrose laughing

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2014, 12:14:39 PM »
lol...I thought I saw Ambrose laughing


There appeared to be some kind of "substance" left on him. Maybe Jake should have let the snake clean out a little bit more before the show.

That was always a problem with animal gimmicks. You could never control an animal's bodily functions. Dynamite tells in his book the story of Matilda pissing in the ring before a match once. He said it was everywhere, dripping over the apron, etc.!


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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2014, 12:30:41 PM »
I have such fond memories of the late 90's wars that trying to stomach the detritus that Hunter and the old man try to shovel down our throats is unbearable.  Perfect example of what no competition does to a product:  shit because no one can buy another product.  The heyday of WWF (thats right i still call it WWFFFFFFF), WCW, and ECW was the most entertaining time in wrestling history.  The NWO, DX, Austin, etc.  it was such a great time to be a wrestling fan.  I stopped watching regularly years ago.  I knew it was all over for sure when the old man bought out WCW and ECW.  Tuned out after that.  Sad to see what  a pile of shit it has become.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2014, 01:28:10 PM »
Agree, and even when they have something good, like the "Zeb Colter" character, they don't do anything with it.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2014, 02:46:11 PM »
I knew it was all over for sure when the old man bought out WCW and ECW.  Tuned out after that.  Sad to see what  a pile of shit it has become.


IMO, the wrestling business began dying after the Fed's acquisition of WCW & ECW. The final blow was the Benoit tragedy.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2014, 06:49:32 PM »

IMO, the wrestling business began dying after the Fed's acquisition of WCW & ECW. The final blow was the Benoit tragedy.
I say anything post 2002.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2014, 07:09:12 PM »
I say anything post 2002.


That's when the shows began going downhill, which was also shortly after the Fed's purchase of WCW.
Coincidence?

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2014, 07:21:25 PM »

That's when the shows began going downhill, which was also shortly after the Fed's purchase of WCW.
Coincidence?
Your absolutely right now that I think about it. When u have no competition, you don't put forth a good effort for shows. A buddy of mine just saw an ROH show...10 bucks a ticket. Best show hes seen.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2014, 07:28:43 PM »
Your absolutely right now that I think about it. When u have no competition, you don't put forth a good effort for shows. A buddy of mine just saw an ROH show...10 bucks a ticket. Best show hes seen.


I can't understand why ROH hasn't taken off more.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2014, 08:41:35 PM »

I can't understand why ROH hasn't taken off more.

They're not on tv in major markets.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2014, 06:57:30 AM »
They're not on tv in major markets.


That's what I mean, though: why aren't they? They've certainly got the talent.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2014, 08:20:28 AM »

I can't understand why ROH hasn't taken off more.
No money for exposure.

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2014, 09:22:18 AM »
No money for exposure.


I'm just surprised that no backers have gotten behind them. They're established; they just need the financial resources to broaden their product. Everything else is there!

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Re: Old-School RAW thoughts:
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2014, 10:08:05 AM »

I'm just surprised that no backers have gotten behind them. They're established; they just need the financial resources to broaden their product. Everything else is there!
They need a bunch of collective great minds / x-WWE players and former territory owners that know and understand the business.