DENNIS RODMAN

[R.A.M.]

Guess I struck a nerve Galeniko.. didn't know your were such a huge Rodman fan...

[Kwon_2]

What's the deal with Rodmans wig and makeup?

[R.A.M.]

Rodman is a puppet to be show cased to North Korea.. North Korea is probaly telling its citizens that all westerners are like this .

[doriancutlerman]

hes gotten closer to the nk govt and elite than all the combine usa govts since nk exosts,lol

try to deny that.

I like you dude, but why even bother denying that?  Getting close to the NK gov't. is hardly some badge of honor.  Remember "Hanoi Jane"?

At least her motives were a little more noble, but the point remains:  kiss an unpopular regime's ass, and what will they do?  Welcome you with open arms, especially if they think it makes the States look bad.

I see a lot of people in this thread* pulling Tu Quoques faster than they can yank their boyfriends' dicks; e.g., "Oh, the US did this, and oh, the US did that."  That "you did it too!" bullshit is a child's "argument," a chickenshit diversion.  The fact remains that North Korea's government sucks by any ethical metric.  That the US is far from innocent will never change that.

*Note:  I ain't talking about you, Gal.  Like I said, while we don't always agree, I nonetheless think you're cool as shit.  When you lit a smoke and tore into people sealed the deal for me; "This dude's a real Getbigger," I said

P.S. -- How much is Dennis Rodman worth these days?

[Mr Nobody]

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[bigmc]

sport can unite people

where politics fail

[R.A.M.]

sport can unite people

where politics fail

 I agree

[The Abdominal Snoman]

What's the deal with Rodmans wig and makeup?

He's bisexual and bangs dudes

[Primemuscle]

Who actually takes this freak seriously?

[pellius]

Kim i have answered your question 3 times now.

My name is not Kim and no you haven't. Just answer it directly.

But I know you won't. That's because you are not intellectually honest. You were the were the one that implied a moral equivalence between Obama and Kim Jong Un. And when I pose the question to you directly, "Whom would you rather have as the world leader, Un or Obama or it doesn't matter, they are equal, you can just flip a coin?", that put you in a quandary because whatever your answer is you will look like a fool because everyone, including yourself, knows there is no moral equivalency between Obama and Un.

It's a simple straight forward question that demands a simply straight forward answer. That you will not do. You see, in debates and discussions such as this one, people like you: with an agenda that claim to know the "real truths" and have the inside behind the scenes scoop that has eluded everyone else, even though you are in no particular advantages position or in any inner circle than anybody else but rather has been simply brain washed -- which is what you accuse the rest of the world to have been -- because of your frustration and the feeling of powerlessness you have. People like you are not interested in clarification, wisdom or knowledge. But simply trying to win an argument and promote their agenda no matter how intellectually dishonest and inconsistent you are or have to be. You were easily painted into a corner but your ridiculous moral implications and now you try to avoid and obfuscate the issue.

Just be intellectually and morally honest (and courageous) and make clear that no matter how bad one thinks Obama is, he is in no way near the level of unmitigated evil that someone like Kim Jong Un is on.  

It's simple. At least for one that strives for the truth and moral clarity.

[R.A.M.]

How can usa call out a country for doing a couple dirties when the us is rolling in pig shit ?  lol what a joke

yeah.. but when your people resort to cannibalism due to your leaders telling you how much food you are allowed.. i'd say that's pretty much rock bottom...   google it.. hell I'll save you the trouble.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/392610/North-Korean-reveals-cannibalism-is-common-after-escaping-starving-state

[jude2]

sport can unite people

where politics fail

This is a fact.

[pellius]

you are an idiot.


you do not realize why he does that.do you?


why wuld a filthy rich american retired basketball player waste his time going to "cummunist" nk?

you think hes encouraging kim to carry on as usual?

hes going there to do something for humanity.

all the politicians in the world cant influence kim and gang like rodman can.

think about it for aminute before you say things like he should stay there blabla.

rodman is not stupid

Rodman is not filthy rich. In fact, all reports shows he is having a very hard time financially. Like many celebs and athletes he has blown his fortune. He is a long time drug addict and still a drug addict. Just look at how he speaks. He is not on any humanitarian mission. And he will have zero influence on Kim Jung Un politically. Rodman has always been a mentally unstable and disturbed individual. The previous post was more on the mark that he goes there to hobnob with a world leader, and all the drugs, money and sex that comes with associating with a filthy rich corrupt leader.  

[Cleanest Natural]

Rodman has some serious drug induced/schizo word salad going on in that video. One of Rodman's friends has said that Rodman goes over there because Kim Jong Un sets him up with massive amounts of cocaine and young hot Asians...Rodman goes over there and parties his ass off and might even do so sexual shit with Kim Jong Un. Imagine going to a place where you sit in a Conan type Kings chair with literally 50 women around you doing anything and everything? This is supposedly what goes on over there.

you are closer to the truth than you can imagine 

[Cleanest Natural]

Rodman is not filthy rich. In fact, all reports shows he is having a very hard time financially. Like many celebs and athletes he has blown his fortune. He is a long time drug addict and still a drug addict. Just look at how he speaks. He is not on any humanitarian mission. And he will have zero influence on Kim Jung Un politically. Rodman has always been a mentally unstable and disturbed individual. The previous post was more on the mark that he goes there to hobnob with a world leader, and all the drugs, money and sex that comes with associating with a filthy rich corrupt leader.  

you are spot on . it's the craziness that attracts him .. however, he is USED as a pawn in a sick game. I would not be surprised to see him detained or killed in the future.

[pellius]

How can usa call out a country for doing a couple dirties when the us is rolling in pig shit ?  lol what a joke

OK, now another straight forward question: Who would you rather have as the world leader and sole super power: The USA or North Korea?

North Korea "doing a couple dirties". Man, you are so, so naive and clueless. Do you live in the USA?

[oliolioli]

Rodman, being a celebrity and known throughout the world, in a sense endorses Kim Jung Un and even giving him some credibility by buddying around with him and ignoring his regimes atrocities. A bad and evil person should be stigmatized and ostracized but all decent people. If it was made known that a friend of yours is a pedophile and "expedited" his father's death so that he could get at his inheritance and gotten away with it would he still be your friend? Would you still hang out with him and just shrug off his sins and say "Well, that's his personal life and it has nothing to do with me."

Who you endorse, and in Rodman's case, defend; and there's no question as to the type of man Kim Jung Un is, is a reflection of your character, values and standards of decency.

Having said this I believe that Rodman is not necessarily a bad person but is just clueless. He's a baffoon, a shallow person, and has lived his life as an unrepentant hedonist. Consequently, he has no real world view or moral compass and just lives for the moment and what makes him feel good at the time. 

Would you feel the same way if we could go back in time and watch Rodman and Hitler hugging, clinking liquor bottles and yukking it up at a lavish banquet?

OneMoreRep is in, Pellius is out, that is the current status quo on Getbig.

What Pellius said is spot on.  What if Rodman went to Iraq in the late 90s and palled around with Sadam, could you honestly say "he gets a break because he isn't a diplomat, don't be so hard on him"?

[pellius]

Ok will say his full name for you kim jong un.  You got it through your head now thats the fourth time.  Obama has had us military kill thousands of innoccent people al queda is more moral than he is at least they admit they made a mistake in killing innocents usa doesnt even take accountability for it.   btw ken bae is charged with crimes he did as us spy deal with it.  us now is the evilist country on earth god will punish it very harshly.

OK, I thank you for stating it clearly and unequivocally.

Now what proof do you have, other than what North Korea claims (though they have not charge him formally) that Ken Bae is a spy? He worked with a Evangelical organization and hardly seemed like one that had the resources or the wherewithal to set up bases in China and overthrow the North Korean regime. Either way, he was a fool to travel to North Korea in an attempt to spread Christianity which is what his family claims.  I am not sure what America is expected to do in a case like this other than cut some kind of deal. But a lot of these do-gooders, and I admire their courage, often have no idea what they are getting themselves into and have to take more responsibility for their actions.

[oliolioli]

Nk us has proven they are failures at leading and love mass murder.  Ill give nk a chance any day of the week.  They would excel if all the ridiculous sanctions where taken off them.

Oh come on end of argument right here, why would anyone even talk with this idiot.  Obvious troll.

[pellius]

That is all hearsay any proof? No. Any pictures or videos of labor camps no.  But there are plenty of pictures of gitmo.  Who gave free pass to jap scientists at unit 731 usa which had them further there work off us mainland. us, devils playground.

And this is the reason why relatively free and open countries like America get shit on. You are allowed to photograph, witness and report on what goes on in this country. Foreigners from all over the world can come here and photograph and document our homeless problem and prison system. All are shit is out there for the world to see. But in a close society you have none of that. Everything is hidden and protected. You only get bits and pieces from those who were able to escape and those who were able to get and gather information on how the country is run. I do think it's telling that as bad as Communist China is people from North Korea are always trying to escape and get to China. I remember once when a group of North Korean made a mad rush into the Chinese Embassy.

So when a society like North Korea disallows any outside observers or freedom of speech there's a reason for it. But we do get bits and pieces. Like this confession from a former prison guard in North Korea.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3071468/#.Us4J0_uYyuI

[pellius]

Oh come on end of argument right here, why would anyone even talk with this idiot.  Obvious troll.

I do find it curious when one is so eager to give a totalitarian regime like North Korea the benefit of the doubt but so quick to shit on America. Does anyone stop to consider what the world would be like if it wasn't for America? Fascism, Nazism, Communism, Islamic Fundamentalism... take your pick.

If you compare American to Heaven. We suck. We suck bad. But when you compare it to Russia, China or North Korea -- the only other realistic alternatives today. Are we really the "Great Satan"?

In this world it's rarely a choice between good and bad but between bad and worse.

[galeniko]

read escape fro,m block 14 for info about north korea,its an excellent book.the nation is one unbelievable shithole, you wont believe what youre reading.

btw china north east territory is one absolute hsithole too.

some suprising things in the book too.


 
i dont think rodman goes to nk just to get some hookers there,he can have that everywhere else in the world,lol.

same with cocaine,surely nk will be worst choice for getting that.

and hes not rich someone says?

he certainly isnt broke.

pellius, usa is ok as olice force for the world, but dont pretend for one second that the usa doesnt do the same practices.
but i do agree, its the best choice for policing the world, i doubt its paying off for the usa, the cost for this is way too much.

[SF1900]

Sport players (ex or current), singers, actors/actresses should stick to what they do best: entertaining people by playing sports, writing music or making movies. They should all stay away from public/social issues.

[pellius]

read escape fro,m block 14 for info about north korea,its an excellent book.the nation is one unbelievable shithole, you wont believe what youre reading.

btw china north east territory is one absolute hsithole too.

some suprising things in the book too.


 
i dont think rodman goes to nk just to get some hookers there,he can have that everywhere else in the world,lol.

same with cocaine,surely nk will be worst choice for getting that.

and hes not rich someone says?

he certainly isnt broke.

pellius, usa is ok as olice force for the world, but dont pretend for one second that the usa doesnt do the same practices.
but i do agree, its the best choice for policing the world, i doubt its paying off for the usa, the cost for this is way too much.

No one said or implied that he goes to NK for hookers. He gets to hob nob with a world leader. Makes himself relevant again. Like all celebs he starves for attention. And you better believe he gets a lot of fringe benefits from his associations with someone so powerful.

And yes, it doesn't "pay" for the US to be the world's police. One of the easiest things we could do and get this monkey off our backs is to throw Israel to the dogs. But the world's needs a police and to protect free Democracies. And though we never great credit but only criticism for this we do it because it's the right thing to do. I know most here will laugh and say we always have some financial interest. No use arguing because people have already made up their minds. The blame America first has all but become ingrained.

We conquered Iraq. What did we do after that? Did we seize all their oil and install a U.S. government? We didn't steal their oil, we bought it, at market prices. And this time the money went to the Iraqi people instead of Saddam Hussien's pocket. What resources does Israel have that we can't get elsewhere? We don't need them. But we stand by them because it the only free Democracy in the region and it's the right thing to do. A region where an Arab and Muslim have more freedoms and rights in Israel than in their own country. Most people don't even realize that Arabs hold public office in Israel and routinely heckle Jewish speaker in the Knesset. How many Jews hold office in Arab countries let alone be allow to criticize the government in public or private? 

The world should be grateful that there is an America in this world.

[Primemuscle]

Nk us has proven they are failures at leading and love mass murder.  Ill give nk a chance any day of the week.  They would excel if all the ridiculous sanctions where taken off them.

I strongly suggest you move to North Korea as soon as you possibly can.