ATTN Team Natty: Sorry but I'm going to the dark side

[chaos]

look at my stats, 43 inch chest, 50 inch shoulders, 16 inch guns fuck you think those are?

My bad, I didn't realize you were 12.
Carry on.

[chaos]

make sense man

I'm saying you have the stats of a 12 year old boy, maybe 13.
If those are your stats before you diet...just lol!!

[Shockwave]

I'm saying you have the stats of a 12 year old boy, maybe 13.
If those are your stats before you diet...just lol!!

brutastic

[galeniko]

You have to have muscle before you can lose muscle.

and as for the op, wolfox, hahaha, so hes sick of nbeing natural.

but,he should first start training before going on gear.

i hope he shuts down his axis for eternity with that cycle with pisspoor results.

[ChopperRider]

You fucking morons I got Fat Free Mass Index of 24.2 fucking 25 is the best you can ever achieve natty.

so much ignorance.

You got dickinyourass disease.

[Cleanest Natural]

I propose ignoring completely both these gimmicks. No answer, they'll get bored and move on.

[galeniko]

i wasnt natty there

[Cleanest Natural]

zzzzzzzz

[wes]

JUNIOR,read this carefully:

CALORIES are a unit of energy,calories do NOT build muscle.

Take in more calories than the body requires,and you gain weight.......I said WEIGHT,not necessarily muscle.

Take in less calories than you are expending,and you will lose weight......again,I said WEIGHT,and again,not necessarily muscle.

Macros build muscle,each gram of the essential macros contains a certain amount of calories.............4 for both protein and carbs,and 9 for fat,so you CAN figure out your calories by using the calories found in each macro yes,but once again,calories do NOT build muscle.

Protein builds muscle, along with many other factors............calor ies do not,they either make you gain or lose bodyweight,possibly neither fat nor muscle and maybe just water.........it depends on a lot of variables..

So be a weak willed Gaylord and get that Big Mac instead of opting for a skinless chicken breast............both contain the macronutrient called  protein,but the fucking Big Mac has more fat,sodium,calories,etc. etc.,and the Protein Efficieny Ratio is poor compared to chicken breast..ie,it`s a shitty quality of processed protein.


Poor excuse!!

[BikiniSlut]

Uncle Junior...I'll tell you exactly what you should do.

Get on to hormone replace therapy with a doctors prescription and leave it at that.

You don't need steroids because you look great. Judging by your pictures.

However at 35 you should not have a non-existent libido. I'm 35....have a shitload of estrogen and have a great libido.

I think all you need is some HRT to get that libido running and you're golden.

No need to play the size game....you've got a great, healthy looking physique. Your physique would be classified as the "pussy puller" physique.

Plus the HRT may help you put on size...I don't know what the doc will give you. My ex took only TRT...was in his 50's at the time and gained plenty of size from just that.

[ChopperRider]

JUNIOR,read this carefully:

CALORIES are a unit of energy,calories do NOT build muscle.

Take in more calories than the body requires,and you gain weight.......I said WEIGHT,not necessarily muscle.

Take in less calories than you are expending,and you will lose weight......again,I said WEIGHT,and again,not necessarily muscle.

Macros build muscle,each gram of the essential macros contains a certain amount of calories.............4 for both protein and carbs,and 9 for fat,so you CAN figure out your calories by using the calories found in each macro yes,but once again,calories do NOT build muscle.

Protein builds muscle, along with many other factors............calor ies do not,they either make you gain or lose bodyweight,possibly neither fat nor muscle and maybe just water.........it depends on a lot of variables..

So be a weak willed Gaylord and get that Big Mac instead of opting for a skinless chicken breast............both contain the macronutrient called  protein,but the fucking Big Mac has more fat,sodium,calories,etc. etc.,and the Protein Efficieny Ratio is poor compared to chicken breast..ie,it`s a shitty quality of processed protein.


Poor excuse!!

147 years experience lifting weights and this is all you could come up with?

Some Elf you are.

[Mr Nobody]

He's using the Adonis method of trolling...most recently implemented by dj181..

Where you ask questions and every answer you get you disagree with or play dumb.

Where did dj181 go havent seen him around here.

[galeniko]

hrt is steroids,i hope this helps lol

[BikiniSlut]

hrt is steroids,i hope this helps lol

Yes and no. 90% of men that are on it don't use it to build muscles.

Women have hormone replacement therapy as well.

[wes]

Take in no additional fat......you`ll get plenty of trace fat from your diet.

Increase protein to 180 gms per day for insurance purposes......you are training hard,or at least you should be which tears down muscle tissue.

Cycle your starchy carbs............don`t just eat one set amount per day.

A seven day carb cycle could look like this:

Day 1-200
Day 2-150
Day 3-75
Day 4-30
Day 5-0
Day 6-300
Day-7-50

Keep repeating this over and over...go by the mirror not the scale.

Drink as much water as possible throughout the day.

Thank me later.

[BikiniSlut]

what does HRT mean babe? Is that like when you inject low doses of test? Isn't that the same thing as taking steroids but lower doses?

Yep. Hormone replacement therapy.

If you want to lose fat change your diets components and do cardio. You don't need to starve yourself unlike some.

Honestly....you are now at the point where you are getting an information overload here. It's becoming too much.

Time to make a decision or you'll just stress yourself out even more.

[Cleanest Natural]

 

[Mr Nobody]

Excellent physique right there.

[Primemuscle]

I was inspired by an old friend I recently ran into. Indian guy was skinny as shit when he graduated highschool.... now he's all yolked up. Guy is like 5'7 230lbs and works out like shit...endless hammer strength machines(all the inclines, regular, declines), then does db bench and incline and flys for chest for 1 and half hours. Somehow all that shit works for him.

I'm several inches taller than your Indian friend. I always wanted to be big up until recently. The most I ever weighed was 225 lbs. when I was 30 years old. Recently, I've dropped about 10 lbs. and am down to 195. I like how I feel with less weight to carry around. Maybe I am finally over the desire to be a mass monster, which was never going to happen anyway without my using a lot of shit.

Your friend's workouts seem a bit too long. It is best to keep them to around an hour total.

[_aj_]

It's been like this for months, total obsession, I actually started crying in the gym the other day (like secretly) cos I missed a dead lift I was trying to do for a triple and i only managed the double. 

[Cleanest Natural]

can junior and wolfox be put into a mirror an thrown into cosmos?

[_aj_]

From google. It was posted on bb.com. I know not if there are any equivalent studies for IGF levels or for E2.

[Mawse]

Congratulations to all new users on your decades of future terrible life choices.

If I could do it again, 250 a week test, sub q and human grade only, forever. Maybe hg deca at 200 too.

The only way to ensure you'd stay healthy long term.

[wes]

OK thanks alot Wes I will start this off from tomorrow no cheating no fucking around 100% dedication bro.

Thanks a lot man, I appreciate it bro, trust me when I set my mind to a goal and when my hearts in it, I don't quit.

Just one question, I really fucking hate eating alot of protein.

Is it cool if out my 180g protein, say half of that comes from protein shakes?

I take On Gold Standard its got 30g protein per scoop and just 4g carbs, so if I have 3 scoops of that, that's like 90g out of my 180g protein.

so is that cool, or do I have to eat 180g protein from meat, I just can't take no more dry chicken and tuna and shit, like actually feel like just starving myself than have to eat rank dry chicken all the time bro.
 

Shakes are fine if you must,just mix in water only.

Good luck.

[Uncle Junior]

From google. It was posted on bb.com. I know not if there are any equivalent studies for IGF levels or for E2.

Ok thanks but since you seem to know your shit if I got IGF-1 levels of 54.3 nmol/l that ridiculously high right?