Finished my workout

[Ace]

well, so the source is a goodle search?

are you serious?

man, im dating a girl at times who studies these things, the stuff thats said on the internet is so off at times,i dont believe a single word of it,unless i seen the orifginal source AND that being backed up.

it doesnt even matter afterall, one should just run according to their goals, but charts like these are the reason for much much bro science bs.

in general ppl should just train more and talk less.btw no offense this is genral statement

Good point, and I certainly don't agree with all the horseshit that's spewed on the net, but I've seen from multiple sources that gear like test and dbol are "wet gainers" while winny and var are "dry gainers" and I can say from personal experience that winny does give me much drier gains than dbol does, although I've gotten zero joint problems from winny which is supposed to be one of it's worst sides. But it's also said that everyone responds differently to different kinds of gear, so what's your take on all this dude?

[Mawse]

Did that broscience chart come from Jason blahblah? you bloat because of estrogen or prolactin. Tren gives me no , zero , dht in bloodwork so I don't somehow think its five times more androgenic than test.

[ProudVirgin69]

From what I recall, they came at those numbers from rat studies.  The degree to which a steroid hypertrophies the levator muscle--relative to test--is used for the anabolic value.  And the degree to which a steroid hypertrophies the prostate is used for the androgenic value.

Hardly applicable to our purposes, but at least you have an idea how they reached those numbers

Edit: levator scapulae

[Cleanest Natural]

From what I recall, they came at those numbers from rat studies.  The degree to which a steroid hypertrophies the levator muscle--relative to test--is used for the anabolic value.  And the degree to which a steroid hypertrophies the prostate is used for the androgenic value.

Hardly applicable to our purposes, but at least you have an idea how they reached those numbers

you read much on the internets?

[ProudVirgin69]

you read much on the internets?

I like to research, study, and read.... and a lot of the stuff I read is from the internet, yes.

Am I being mocked?  I can't tell 

[Simple Simon]

Brief summing up of Cleanest Natural
Gets in shape in six weeks from twink status adding a huge 10lbs of mega-dosed muscle.
Has looked like he lifted for around 10 weeks in the last 10 years
Rest of the time= skinny twink.
Very impressive indeed.

[BigCyp]

Brief summing up of Cleanest Natural
Gets in shape in six weeks from twink status adding a huge 10lbs of mega-dosed muscle.
Has looked like he lifted for around 10 weeks in the last 10 years

Very impressive indeed.

Brief summing up of UKJeff
Gets out of bed at six in the morning, drinking a huge 10oz of mega-dosed spermachiatto.
Has logged onto getbig for around 10 weeks in the last 10 years and thinks he's relevant.

[Simple Simon]

Brief summing up of UKJeff
Gets out of bed at six in the morning, drinking a huge 10oz of mega-dosed spermachiatto.
Has logged onto getbig for around 10 weeks in the last 10 years and thinks he's relevant.

Brief summing up of bigcp

bigmcs gimmick account.

[BigCyp]

Brief summing up of bigcp

bigmcs gimmick account.

why would I need to log into my bigcyp account

when i've run you off the board once with this account already

 

[Simple Simon]

why would I need to log into my bigcyp account

when i've run you off the board once with this account already

 

Run me off the board?

[Cleanest Natural]

 The look of embarassement on your wife's face having to be in public with such a socially awkward guy is absolutely priceless 

[Rascal full]

why would I need to log into my bigcyp account

when i've run you off the board once with this account already

 

Just curious BigCyp, why do you have two accounts? Is there any benefit to doing that?

[Simple Simon]

The look of embarassement on your wife's face having to be in public with such a socially awkward guy is absolutely priceless 

Shes actually holding my 12 in cock just out of shot, hence the smiles.

[Cleanest Natural]

Shes actually holding my 12 in cock just out of shot, hence the smiles.

12 cm is more like it you limpdicked weirdo

[Simple Simon]

12 cm is more like it you limpdicked weirdo

CN seriously butt hurt about my earlier post which he wants to gloss over.

[Cleanest Natural]

CN seriously butt hurt about my earlier post which he wants to gloss over.

sure haha .. look at you again



























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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

[BigCyp]

Shes actually holding my 12 in cock just out of shot, hence the smiles.

That's not your wife Mike, just one of the birds from your gym you loser haha

[King Shizzo]

I am with others when they say they see little difference from the natural photo (left) to the juiced photo on the right. I also noticed you are sloping your shoulders in the natural pic.

My expert advice: Steroids don't appear to be worth it for you, unless you mega dose.

[BigCyp]

I am with others when they say they see little difference from the natural photo (left) to the juiced photo on the right. I also noticed you are sloping your shoulders in the natural pic.

My expert advice: Steroids don't appear to be worth it for you, unless you mega dose.

You are an imbecile.

[Simple Simon]

Brief summing up of Cleanest Natural
Gets in shape in six weeks from twink status adding a huge 10lbs of mega-dosed muscle.
Has looked like he lifted for around 10 weeks in the last 10 years
Rest of the time= skinny twink.
Very impressive indeed.

Bump, nice work spreading your post along the thread to hide your embarrassment.

[King Shizzo]

You are an imbecile.

I will actually go as far as to say his physique looks exactly the same. Take away the sloped shoulders (which will make the traps appear bigger when he stands straight) Shave the hair off of the abdomen. Get a tan, or use a filter of some sort to make the muscles pop better in the juiced photo.

Also take both photos at a slightly different angle.

My verdict is that Sev was "on" in both photos. We have seen what he looks like as a natural.

So Sev lied to us. Again.

[Rascal full]

To be fair to Seb he was in good shape beforehand.

[Grape Ape]

Sev, if the clean pic on the left represents you getting lean naturally before you go on, I think you could hit that condition again, then up the calories to fill out a bit, stay clean, and be fine.

[King Shizzo]

Sev, if the clean pic on the left represents you getting lean naturally before you go on, I think you could hit that condition again, then up the calories to fill out a bit, stay clean, and be fine.

Sooo..... you agree with me.

I think the attention is shifting to the fact that Sev claims clean in that pic on the left. He is full of shit.

If he was (bullshit) then he does not respond well to steroids.

Congrats Sev, way to back yourself into a corner again. 

[Simple Simon]

Sooo..... you agree with me.

I think the attention is shifting to the fact that Sev claims clean in that pic on the left. He is full of shit.

If he was (bullshit) then he does not respond well to steroids.

Congrats Sev, way to back yourself into a corner again. 

If it took 700mg tren weekly, 350prop, and 350 dbol for that then it wasnt worth it.
I could have done that with 4 tabs of dbol a day.