New Snowden interview, media blackout

[Palpatine Q]

Again embarrassing yourself.

Let me give you a little lesson in analytical thinking and argument - it doesn't matter "who I am" but the argument I put forward.  It's not a "personality" or "physique" contest. 

Its not an argument. You are proselytizing to us  about things you cant possibly know...and inssting you are "smarter" than me because I dont agree.

Ok then   

[cephissus]

Again embarrassing yourself.

Let me give you a little lesson in analytical thinking and argument - it doesn't matter "who I am" but the argument I put forward.  It's not a "personality" or "physique" contest. 

newsflash: things don't "matter" except to people.  lesson in argument: they have little to do with "truth"

hope this helps

[agenda21nwo]

newsflash: things don't "matter" except to people.  lesson in argument: they have little to do with "truth"

hope this helps

no kidding?

[f450]

They gather other facets of your personal life...ie your "information" dipshit.

Again...who cares. Listen to my phone calls they are pretty boring.

thats because your life is useless... you are useless.. your family, your interests, your loved ones.. all useless. You will not contribute anything of value to the human race. You will eat, shit, die and be forgotten ... useless.
There are people unlike you and me who are not useless, who have the potential and ability to effect immense change. You dont want a government which is bought and paid for by corporations, bankers and the uber-rich elite snooping on these folks and snuffing out/coopting them long before they fulfill their potential.

Americans are some of the most stupid people on the planet...giving away all these hard fought rights just to feel a little safer. Fucking disgusting. Disgusting and maddening.


/rant

[Palpatine Q]

thats because your life is useless... you are useless.. your family, your interests, your loved ones.. all useless. You will not contribute anything of value to the human race. You will eat, shit, die and be forgotten ... useless.
There are people unlike you and me who are not useless, who have the potential and ability to effect immense change. You dont want a government which is bought and paid for by corporations, bankers and the uber-rich elite snooping on these folks and snuffing out/coopting them long before they fulfill their potential.

Americans are some of the most stupid people on the planet...giving away all these hard fought rights just to feel a little safer. Fucking disgusting. Disgusting and maddening.


/rant

You can "not want" it until your eyes bleed.  Too late 

[Rascal full]

Interesting to hear the views of those that think all this spying is somehow ok. The general feeling seems to be 'why worry if you have nothing to hide?'

I get that but still get the feeling this is all heading in the wrong direction. Where will people draw the line? When is invasion of privacy going to be considered too much?

One positive thing is at least people are discussing this stuff and having a debate about it. I honestly couldn't even see the other side until I heard Schnauzer and Groink give their opinions.

[Parker]

Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
Benjamin Franklin

[Palpatine Q]

Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
Benjamin Franklin

Benjamin Franklin had slaves....LOLOL.

Pro Tip about our "Founding Fathers"

They were rch guys who didnt want to pay taxes...sound familiar ?

[Parker]

Benjamin Franklin had slaves....LOLOL.

Pro Tip about our "Founding Fathers"

They were rch guys who didnt want to pay taxes...sound familiar ?

Yep, and didn't want a government far away telling us what to do...
The US colonies were not the money makers, even with the taxes. It was the Caribbean that was making money for England.

Sugar tax and tea tax, who would they most affect back then? Chances are the rich folk.

[theredeemer]

Groink, you sound like a spineless toady who overcompensates by taking steroids to get big muscles to make up for your lilly livered nature.

[MAXX]

good guy

missuse of power in the US goverment. probably because of the jews. he talks about powerful lobbygroups, that's it.

[Voice of Doom]

lots of bottoms in this thread 'ok' with big daddy watching out for them...

[Rami]

go suck schnauze

[mass243]

Kid Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize candidate by Norwegian MP:

http://rt.com/news/snowden-nobel-peace-prize-norway-353/



He has temporary asylum in Russia for a year. It will be interesting to see what happens with this.
He also has recently asked for extra protection after receiving "death threats" from US officials.

Snowden Seeking Russian Protection After Threats: Lawyer

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-21/snowden-requesting-russian-protection-after-threats-lawyer-says.html

[thebrink]

Fuck this guy. He's a traitor and a coward.

Moron. 

He's trying to protect YOUR rights.

[Schnauzer]

Moron.  

He's trying to protect YOUR rights.

I protected my own rights (and yours) by serving my country in the military.





Moron.  

[thebrink]

I protected my own rights (and yours) by serving my country in the military.





Moron.  

Fine, you win 

[Big Chiro Flex]

I protected my own rights (and yours) by serving my country in the military.





Moron.  

 

[Palpatine Q]

lots of bottoms in this thread 'ok' with big daddy watching out for them...

And a couple of realists.

You may as well complain about gravity...or racism.

Accept the world you live in and make the best of it.

[bebop396]

Fuck this guy. He's a traitor and a coward.

I did not read this thread, this is all i needed to agree with..Rest is all bullshit!

[Parker]

Seriously, this is how organizations like the Nazis take power - no one stands up against them, or those that do are killed.

I can guarantee you there were foolish Germans, just like our own Schnauzer, who in the early days of the birth of the Nazis had his exact same attitude to people like Snowden who tried to speak out.

But if you cannot see what is happening in America, perhaps you are meant to be put in death camps, and to suffer horribly?

Godwin's Law...

[Marty Champions]

No he's not. He's a patriot and a hero.  Who exactly did he betray? He's given his info to the American Public.

x2

[tu_holmes]

I have to agree... As pro military as I am.... I'm more pro-constitution... and while I believe there are certain things the public doesnt need to know... the US Gov has been out of control and we need more people like Snowden to help bring it back into equilibrium... the gov has no respect or fear of its citizens and is running rampant.

Unfortunatley I don't see balance coming.. the Gov is too good at manipulating the citizens.

Agreed.

Sad that people are just "OK" with the government doing whatever they want to.

The bottom line is that we the people are supposed to be the ones who decide whether he's a traitor or not and I can't seem to find 3 out of 4 people who think he did something to be penalized for.

He told WE THE PEOPLE what was going on... That's not treasonous, that's patriotic.

Our country is supposed to be spying on the enemies, not the citizens.

[tu_holmes]

And a couple of realists.

You may as well complain about gravity...or racism.

Accept the world you live in and make the best of it.

Some people out there like to make a mark and change it.

[Palpatine Q]

Agreed.

Sad that people are just "OK" with the government doing whatever they want to.

The bottom line is that we the people are supposed to be the ones who decide whether he's a traitor or not and I can't seem to find 3 out of 4 people who think he did something to be penalized for.

He told WE THE PEOPLE what was going on... That's not treasonous, that's patriotic.

Our country is supposed to be spying on the enemies, not the citizens.

I  Agree 100%

Heres my thing...no wiseass...what can anyone do about it ?

Vote Republican ?  LOLOLOL.