I feel like shit-but "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels"

[Wolfox]

can it put it on the bicepes?

Funny you ask because I was on a keto diet there and depleted. I also had only been working out a few months.

And unlike you I was not on 200mgs of dbol daily. I still haven't even done my first cycle.

[Cleanest Natural]

keto you say.. you just lost water with unhealthy, unsustainable diet practices

you were better off before your started

another scientist

[galeniko]

i said it all before.

is the galeniko way the healthiest?

dont think so

is it a starvation diet?which one isnt,that will get you shredded

is it brutal?

uh yes

is it the fastest?

id certainly say so.

is it optimal?

hell no.

will energy and power be down randomly?

yes, very much.

will other ways work?

yes, but not the idiodcy thts been spewed by bikinslut.

losing weight and losing fat isnt always the same.if one wants to lose weight, can cut off a leg

does it matter if your in keto all the time?

not really

are refeeds needed?

why would they?explain the machanics behind that.

if one thinks of refeeds, thats kinda the wrong mindset if you ask me.

bit carbo cycling is better.

the binges,yes can get away with them when shredded already, doesnt mean theyre good or necesary.

hope this helps.

i dont debate diet matters with following:

-fattos

-women

-once in lifetime in shape ppl

-ppl who think visible abs is shredded

oh and: will i lose muscle when dieting?

seriously?will you?is that a big concern?is that uccupying the mind?

[galeniko]

keto you say.. you just lost water with unhealthy, unsustainable diet practices

you were better off before your started

oh wow, we have a badass here.

ok show me the ways, how is it done?

maybe you have before after pics?

haha i dont care, i have year round pics.

sorry brah not taking any lessons from you

[ChristopherA]

Yeah I know that's why I'm scared to do it but I don't know how long more I can take this shit, my workouts becoming a joke now and going through motions.

Fuck worrying about weights or if your workouts are shitty. Go hardcore until you are 7-8% and get on gear. All strength you lost will come back and then some

[Simple Simon]

Yeah exactly but its funny lifting girl weights now, make me look like a pussy!

Like I can go 50 kilos on dumbell incline bench press and now I can event do 30 properly, its not the weight its the NO energy.

So I am 80 kilo now, should I start at 75 kilo or 70 kilo?

I don't care about body fat percentage because I can't tell that but I can tell what my weight is on scale.

Just do whats right for you, fuck other people looking.
I get stares all the time with my elastic bands, fuck em, I look way better than they do.

[bigmc]

Just do whats right for you, fuck other people looking.
I get stares all the time with my elastic bands, fuck em, I look way better than they do.

post up your diet

the one with all the carbs in

[Simple Simon]

post up your diet

the one with all the carbs in

If you want advice just PM me dont be shy .

[bigmc]

If you want advice just PM me dont be shy .

it was for junior

our relationship went horribly wrong via pm last time

its still baby steps 

[Simple Simon]

it was for junior

our relationship went horribly wrong via pm last time

its still baby steps 

very good indeed.   

[bigmc]

Huh? I'm lost what you talking about bro?

me and simon

have a little bit of history

you should pm him for diet advice

good alternative to the keto shit that makes you feel fucked all the time

[Simple Simon]

me and simon

have a little bit of history

you should pm him for diet advice

good alternative to the keto shit that makes you feel fucked all the time

I tried to pm you but it doesnt seem to be working  

[bigmc]

I tried to pm you but it doesnt seem to be working  

i havent blocked you this time

i tried to pm uk jeff when he was in time out

but i was still blocked 

[galeniko]

simons diet is high protein, 6 meals, low-moderate carbs,low fat.

weekend gives a bit of slack,but within sane calorie limits.

the last finishing touch is similiar to galeniko diet, last 2 weeks or so.


btw galeniko diet is not ketosis, the body will be in something like glucogenesis, keto diet means no carbs, moderate or high fats, medium to high proteins, i do not do that.

[dr.chimps]

As an aside, I think your feast or famine mindset/approach to food is probably going to hurt you more than help you. It's cliche, and probably not helpful, but a healthy and balanced relationship with vittles would serve you better. I think you'd be best off dropping all the hardcore attitude and methods, and go along with more of one that TA espouses until you get a firm hand on the body composition tiller. Then you can over-complicate things to your heart's desire. 

[galeniko]

hm i seen naturals mentioned.

i do it almost the same way, just add bit fats.

can ask disgusted about it,he helped naturals to get shredded.

[O.Z.]

No Keto is a fantastic diet for fat loss results.

I mean I ain't saying its healthy, its very unhealthy actually and makes me insulin resistant but works brilliantly.

The big problem is losing muscle, but my theory is this shouldn't be a problem once I go on the test, which will be very very soon.

Just gonna get as skinny/anorexic as possible and then blowup on test.

I might even try and go down to 154lb but that will be fucking brutal.

Watch what Dr Eric Westman has to say about it, very informative.

[galeniko]

to eat very little calories is not unhealthy, its healhty in many ways.

to do steroids along with that and hard lifting,and excessively draining the body, now that is different story.


chimps, i didnt read whole thread, who said feast and starvation?i mean even that "works", or can work, but i agree its not the best aproach at all
i think the pther word for it is eating disorder.

[Primemuscle]

Yeah I know that's why I'm scared to do it but I don't know how long more I can take this shit, my workouts becoming a joke now and going through motions.

Your workouts are way, way too long. 90 minutes should be your max time in the gym on any given day. Work out smarter, not longer. It is no wonder your workouts feel like a joke.

[galeniko]

Hes following the galeniko method.

simon

to be fair.

i never said one cant have refeed if over 10%,i just said they shoudnt.

its not necesary, and when on gear, and too fat(when i say 12% is too fat,i always mean the estrogen shocks a 12% person will have on too many calories), its no good, there will be too much estrogen production, i cited a study on this in other thread.

"estrogen resistency" on gear only gets good when very lean.

thats why i say this.

i mean, ppl can have reffeds every day if they want, i dont care, or they can do adonis diet and live on arimidex, theres many ways.

[temple_of_dis]

burn the fat
feed the muscle

tom venuto

lol

yeahh!!

[galeniko]

hahah yeah I edited my post quoting your's. I KNOW your method is more effective, I just can't do it mentally. Although I impressed myself yesterday for my re-feed and only ate clean food for my re-feed (about 8 cups of cooked lentils total with my protein). If I was competing I'd be more stringent on those days.

Yes, the assumptions with that much fiber consumption are correct.

why casnt you do it mentaly?

whats stopping you?lack of true will?

im sorry but in those pics you refered to, thats not shredded,thats lean, uncle j is about that lean right now.

you dont get shredded with a cheat meal or cheat day every 3rd day.its not happening.

you might stay very lean once there with that protocol, but getting there,hellno.

[galeniko]

Uncle dumb.......just replace all your protein shakes with gummy worms of the same caloric proportion.......you'll lose just as much weight. Your on what I like to call the starvation diet.

The good news is it works for absolutely everyone.

yeah thats right, suddenly you wont starve anymore,just replace the protein with pue sugars.

and will lose |"weight"

amazing, do a fizzy drink only diet.

bikinislut, this is a bbuilding site, not a maag for bored and frustrated soccer moms talking shit and philosophing about diet.

[ChristopherA]

Yeah exactly but its funny lifting girl weights now, make me look like a pussy!

Like I can go 50 kilos on dumbell incline bench press and now I can event do 30 properly, its not the weight its the NO energy.

So I am 80 kilo now, should I start at 75 kilo or 70 kilo?

I don't care about body fat percentage because I can't tell that but I can tell what my weight is on scale.

Go by the mirror. Any lines in your stomach or your arms cutting up? I saw a pic of your upper body once and you were decently lean. It was basically just a straight shot of your front with your arms at your side. If I'm correct you arent in that shape right now? When you get back down to that shape jump on some gear. Little run of test, 500mgs/wk, would do wonders for you.

[calfzilla]

Uncle junior I didn't read entire thread but buy the Galeniko book if you haven't already. You shouldn't be feeling so shitty after first couple days. Good luck.