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If Max wants to wear a pink tutu and fairy wings, he can: Parents raise their son as a boy AND a girl so he won't 'grow up aggressive'
Max Price's parents Lisa and Martin are raising their son according to the technique known as 'gender-neutral parenting'
Toddler is happy playing with his collection of toy cars and revels in wearing his favourite dresses and tutu
Mother Lisa said: 'Gender stereotypes can be so damaging'
The couple say they hope their decision will help boost Max's confidence



Max Price is a happy, healthy one-year-old boy who spent yesterday morning playing with his vast collection of toy cars, planes, tractors, and dinosaurs.

Dressed in a red checked lumberjack shirt and rust-coloured jeans, he shouted ‘beep beep!’ and giggled with delight while pushing a plastic motorbike around the living room of his family home.

Then, after lunch, a strange transformation occurred.

Max scampered upstairs to his bedroom with his 23-year-old mother, Lisa, and re-emerged several minutes later wearing a dark blue, knee-length dress decorated with pink flamingos.

He swiftly grabbed a blonde-haired doll, sat her in a pink plastic pram, and took her on a short walk, stopping only when it was time to pretend to breastfeed her.

Later in the afternoon, the child collected several more dolls, found a selection of pink toy cups and saucers, and staged an impromptu tea party.

Max, who turns two later this month and lives in Walsall, is being raised according to a radical technique known as ‘gender-neutral parenting’.

It means Lisa and her husband, Martin, 34, encourage him to wear both boys’ and girls’ clothes, and to play with conventionally female – as well as male – toys.

Rather than being worried if he decides not to play football, and asks instead for someone to paint his fingernails with glittery polish,  they instead see it as a form of cute self-expression.

‘If Max wants to wear a pink tutu and fairy wings, then he can wear it,’ says Lisa. ‘He’s just expressing himself. I don’t want to put him in a certain box and treat him that way. I want to teach him to be whatever he wants to be. He can pick his own clothes and, as long as they’re warm enough for the winter, I’ll get him whatever he wants.’

 


Visitors to the bustling home tend to be surprised, but ‘mostly supportive’, of their decision to pursue gender-neutral parenting.

‘You get the odd funny look, and a bit of hostility, but once we explain how we are bringing our son up, and why, people tend to understand,’ says Lisa.

I hope that Max won’t get teased when he’s older. But part of what we are trying to do with Max is to instil such a sense of confidence, and a sense of who he is, that he won’t care what anyone else thinks.’

Lisa, a full-time housewife, took the decision to allow Max to identify as either a girl or a boy 12 months ago, after seeing high-profile rape cases being discussed on parenting websites. ‘Gender stereotypes can be so damaging.


'Gender stereotypes can be so damaging. They teach little boys to be aggressive and dominant over women... It's detrimental for them and for females'

- Lisa Price

‘They teach little boys to be aggressive and dominant over women,’ she argues. ‘There’s research out there saying that the whole “boys will be boys” thing basically teaches lads that it’s OK to be a certain way, because it’s in their nature to be aggressive. It’s detrimental for them and for females.’

The decision was fully supported by Martin, an unemployed courier. ‘I think my husband is more of a feminist than I am,’ she says. ‘His biggest concern about the whole thing is usually “does Max have the right shoes to go with that dress!”’

Martin, for his part, adds: ‘My parents told me that I played with my sister’s dolls as a child and it doesn’t bother me. I can’t see why it would bother anyone.’

They are adamant that Max has thrived under the gender-neutral regime, pointing out that he is able to string three or four-word sentences together, and is ‘almost’ potty-trained.

The concept of gender-neutral parenting first became popular among feminists in America during the 1970s, when it inspired the actress Marlo Thomas to write a best-selling children’s book called Free To Be… You and Me. Recently, it has experienced a small revival.

In 2011, a Canadian couple made headlines after refusing to reveal the gender of their new-born child Storm in what they called ‘a tribute to freedom and choice’.

The following year, a Cambridgeshire couple, Beck Laxton and Kieran Cooper, revealed they were raising their child Sasha as gender neutral to allow his or her ‘real personality’ to shine through.

In normal circumstances, Max would be required to start wearing gender-specific clothes when he starts at school. However Lisa and Martin have a contingency plan that will allow him to continue dressing as he pleases.

‘We’re planning on home educating Max,’ says Lisa, who was herself home-schooled. ‘However, if he does eventually choose to go to school, and wants to wear a girl’s uniform, I certainly won’t stop him.’

She adds: ‘It doesn’t matter if he’s homosexual, bisexual, transsexual or asexual as far as I’m concerned. I didn’t give birth to him to say “I’m only going to love you if you’re this way”. I love him for who he is.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2559748/If-Max-wants-wear-pink-tutu-fairy-wings-Parents-raise-son-boy-AND-girl-wont-grow-aggressive.html

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Re: BigCyp bringing his son up the right way
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2014, 03:45:20 PM »
Sure, great idea if he wants to end up with another Baby Shitsoul.

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Re: BigCyp bringing his son up the right way
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2014, 03:47:19 PM »
Fucking deranged parents.  >:(

Poor kid.  :'(


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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2014, 03:48:23 PM »
Holy god the fabric of teh world is coming unglued.

Dudes are chicks, chicks are dude, gays are straight, soon up is going to be down and down is going to be sideways..


I think Rome is about due to fall... we're reaching the heights of "civilization" and debauchery that always precipitate the inevitable calamity....

Every time an empire/society reaches a certain level of hedonism and development, a more savage society wipes them out.

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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2014, 03:53:27 PM »
Oh please, is there resarch to suggest that when boys play with girl toys they grow up to be gay or want to become women?

Seriously, we all played pretend "house" when we were younger. Playing house would be considered a girls activity. Besided BAY, PrimeSchmoe, Tbombzm and OMR, how many of you turned out gay or women because you played house?
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2014, 03:54:46 PM »
Oh please, is there resarch to suggest that when boys play with girl toys they grow up to be gay or want to become women?

Seriously, we all played pretend "house" when we were younger. Playing house would be considered a girls activity. Besided BAY, PrimeSchmoe, Tbombzm and OMR, how many of you turned out gay or women because you played house?
Oh stop. You're not being any fun.

And anecdotal evidence, yes... My boss at work told me his son played with barbies and was obsessed with fashion as a child and he grew up to be gay as fuck. Lol.

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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2014, 03:56:29 PM »
Oh stop. You're not being any fun.

And anecdotal evidence, yes... My boss at work told me his son played with barbies and was obsessed with fashion as a child and he grew up to be gay as fuck. Lol.


Dude, 1 case means nothing.

But I understand this is GB so people are going to blow things out of proportion.  :-)
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2014, 03:58:51 PM »
What happens when he sees his barbie that he dresses as kissing Ken on tv and he grows to think thats ok?

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2014, 04:03:52 PM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=511756.0

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A child born in Sweden, begins to almost from the moment of birth to suckle from the teat of the feminist behemoth that is the Government.
Upon birth, Swedish children belong to its mother and the state. In order to attain legal fatherhood of his child, the father must receive formal consent from the mother. As a consequence, the mother may be bequeathed full custody if she so chooses and the father will have no legal right to ever see his child.

The almighty Government always supplants the father as the predominant father-figure , even when the father is present. We learn from an early age that the government is good to us, that we are so lucky to live in Sweden, that we get everything for free. That the government provides for us, that we owe a lot to the benevolent government. We hear that the US cruel and sexist because it doesn't provide free abortions and free everything. Swedish men of my parents' generation are most pussified and beta males on earth. A father teaching his son strong masculine values such as honour and sportsmanship is so frowned upon that it has almost become unheard of, as has the concept of 'the man of the household'. In most households the woman is the dominant parent. Children are raised by her and the state.

PAST:

From 1960-1990's all Swedish media and was state owned. My parents’ generation were throughout their upbringing fed with a stream of feminist propaganda - indoctrinated without ever seeing a different viewpoint. In very succinct terms, the mantra:" MEN ARE BAD. WOMEN CAN DO NOTHING WRONG" was served to them by the state. Feminism had become the orthodox worldview and since all schools were state-owned, education became permeated with gender consciousness and gender engineering. To think anything bad about women or the state became essentially a "thoughtcrime", and guilt was the designed automatic reaction for happening think outside of the ruling ideology. During this time, a number of legislations were also introduced, such as "the law of women's peace", were passed to keep men in line.

When my parents generation had children, this ideology was passed on from mother to child. The father of most Swedish households is too repressed by 'man guilt' to dare to take a dominant or even active part in raising the child in the manner that their fathers raised them. The family unit has utterly crumbled.

I myself cannot exactly remember how I was indoctrinated, I guess it happened on both a subconscious and conscious level throughout my childhood. I just know that before I woke up and took a look at this nightmare (at the age of maybe 16) I was utterly brainwashed.
Children are trained so that anything negative said about a woman elicits a nauseous feeling and a knee-jerk response to defend the female gender and eliminate the source of unorthodoxy.
I remember in school, my teachers teaching us about the horrors of the beforetime, the evils of patriarchy, and how women are still kept down by white rich men. Swedish kids shows and magazines always had a strong gender conciousness, illustrating female dominance and male submission and guilt at having presumed they were better in any way.

PRESENT:

Last year, I started questioning some of my teachers statements during a course on gender and language not an elective, mandatory). I was honestly afraid to do so, but my jimmies were simply too rustled to keep quiet. People looked at me like I had denied the holocaust, and with a knee-jerk reaction they all got genuinely upset and started shouting at me. One girl started to almost sob when I refused to agree with the notion that a man raping a woman was worse than a woman raping another woman. Some ugly sloots in my previous class still openly hate me because of it.

What I've realized now, at 18 is that my female peers are being with another dose of radical feminism. They are all mannish kunts that have just been pumped and dumped by their first alphas, and they thus have a newfound hatred for men. Every day I see signs on social media of sloots my age becoming more and more radical.

Society is also cranking up the extremist lever.
Censorship, mainly of old children's books that represent women as weak have become more prevalent. New editions of old children's stories are edited, cut and pasted to be more orthodox. Some sections are literally being removed from children's books.
'Newspeak' is becoming a reality, feminist lobbyists are trying to erase "he" and "she" and replace it with a gender neutral pronoun. Some newspapers have started to adopt this word.

A new ad hominem shaming technique has become popular to stifle dissenters. Calling non-feminist men “Offended White Male” or “Vit kränkt man” is an insult that aims to ridicule, trivialize and almost dehumanize white men (most men in Sweden) who say anything unorthodox. With this stamp they become ‘unpersons’ , whose opinions don’t matter because they are assumed to be privileged patriarchal sexist scum.

Gender engineering at day-cares is more obvious than ever, with some daycares not using the words boy or girl and preventing boys and girls from playing with "gender stereotypical" toys.

This is Sweden (almost) 2014. I want out.

Ask me anything.

Cliffs:
-Sweden has since the 60’s been a feminist mecca
- Sweden’s big government socialist state is a feminist paradise
- Education and media is mostly state controlled
-Children are brainwashed and taught to worship the government and women
- Women are domineering and self-entitled. Men are spineless
- Anyone who deviates from the orthodox feminist beliefs is ostracized
- The law makes Swedish men second class citizens
- Newspeak is becoming a reality
- Things are getting worse
- Sweden is phucked up.

EDIT: Will continue to update this thread with tidbits of Swedish Feminist & PC insanity.





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Re: Mrs BigCyp and her life partner bringing up her son the right way
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2014, 04:04:10 PM »
Look at the state and looks of those parents. Genetic garbage doesn't even begin to describe it. 20 years from now they can't understand why little Max have anxiety issues or can't seem to hold down a job or relationship  ::)
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2014, 04:05:36 PM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/mother-tongue/10636279/Have-Swedens-permissive-parents-given-birth-to-a-generation-of-monsters.html


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Yes, those very countries that once prided themselves on their enlightened, child-centred parenting style are, it seems, having second thoughts about the wisdom of letting their offspring do what they want, whenever they want.

A best-selling Swedish academic has concluded that permissive parenting is creating a generation of arrogant young adults who lack social empathy, personal resilience and, after a childhood of pampering, are destined to be bitterly disappointed in life.

“Saying 'no’ to a child is not the same as beating a child. Parents should act like parents, not best friends,” says David Eberhard, psychiatrist, father of six and author of How Children Took Power. “They should prepare their kids for adult life by teaching them how to behave, not treat them like princes or princesses. In Sweden, they think that any form of intervention against the child is a sort of molesting.

“The so-called experts think that parents should negotiate, rather than punish. They have misunderstood the concept of parenting. Children are not as fragile as they think.”

Eberhard, 47, points to a breakdown of discipline in schools, plummeting grades and a worrying rise in attempted suicides among teenagers as evidence that allowing children to be boss has failed.

Sweden was the first country on the planet to introduce a ban on physical punishment in 1979. Thereafter, the view was taken that hierarchy within families ought to be jettisoned in favour of treating children like adults.

But while the egalitarian values of social democracy might work for the economy, they have been a disaster on the domestic front.

“What strikes me as the most disturbing feature of Swedish society is the voluntary abdication of adult authority,” says Frank Furedi, Emeritus Professor of Sociology at the University of Kent and author of Paranoid Parenting. “It began with stigmatising the punishment of children and mutated into a fear of disciplining them, which is what parents are supposed to do. The area for concern isn’t what happens to them as children, but what happens to them as they grow up.”

To the outside world it does seem as though Scandinavians have elevated hands-off parenting to a national pastime. There has, historically, been much to admire about the freedoms Scandinavian children enjoy, in that they spend much of their time outdoors, are encouraged to physically explore the great outdoors and push themselves to their limits in winter sports.

They famously don’t begin formal education until they are six or seven, something that is oft-cited by educationalists as preferable to our system, under which all children in England must be in full-time education by their fifth birthday.

In a letter to The Daily Telegraph last September, a group of leading UK educationalists, including Lord Layard, director of the Well-Being Programme at the London School of Economics and David Whitebread, senior lecturer in psychology of education at Cambridge University, claimed the Scandinavian model ought to be emulated.

“Despite the fact that 90 per cent of countries in the world prioritise social and emotional learning and start formal schooling at six or seven, in England we seem grimly determined to cling on to the erroneous belief that starting sooner means better results later,” said Wendy Ellyatt, founder of the Save Childhood Movement campaign, which sent the letter. “There is nothing wrong with seeking high educational standards and accountability, but there is surely something very wrong indeed if this comes at the cost of natural development.”

Yet it would seem that despite the idyllic picture painted, something is rotten in the state of Sweden. Eberhard points to growing social problems in school, where Swedish pupils routinely refuse to follow teachers’ instructions, and later on in what he views as their unfulfilled young adulthood.

“International educational comparisons show there is a huge discrepancy between what they achieve and what they think of themselves,” he says. “Their expectations are too high and life is too hard for them. We see it with anxiety disorders and self-harming, which has risen dramatically.

But who, really, is surprised? As any (non-Swedish) parent will tell you, rational negotiation is all very well with a fellow adult, but no use with a cross, tired toddler in extremis. Similarly, letting pre-teens set their own bedtimes is unfair, and expecting them to be responsible once they hit their teenage years is, frankly, irresponsible.

I know my share of laissez-faire parents who believe that “staying chilled” is the way to keep the lines of communication open with their kids as they negotiate the hazards of secondary school and beyond. But I can’t say I’ve noticed they are any more au fait with what’s going on than the rest of us parents, prissily enforcing our strict(ish) rules and laying out our clear-cut expectations. In fact, I’d go so far as to say they know less and drink more.

I can’t imagine bringing up children without boundaries; what would I enforce? What would they push against?

The very word “boundary” makes me think of hedgerows flourishing with cow parsley and ragged robin and maybe a Cabbage White or two. But in Scandinavia, where boundaries have been abolished, the bare flatlands are bleak as a Nordic-noir crime scene.

“Young people in Sweden tend to be very disappointed in life, especially in their twenties,” observes Eberhard. “While there is a falling rate of suicides, there is a huge rise in suicide attempts, especially among girls aged 15 to 25.”

Cries for help ought to be impossible to ignore; whether Swedish society chooses to heed them is another matter. Still, it would be wrong to pit the extremes of permissive parenting against the equal and opposite extremes of disciplinarian parenting.

Most sane parents muddle along in the middle because rearing children is an art, not a science. I will readily admit that I don’t always get it right. I’m not even sure I mostly get it right, but it doesn’t stop me trying. I may not be my daughters’ friend, but I hope I’m something much more enduring. Firmness and fairness aren’t incompatible with fun: just ask Mary Poppins, Mrs Doubtfire and Nanny McPhee.

We all recognise, too, that parenting is the ultimate roller‑coaster of highs and lows and unexpected soakings, helter-skelters, swings and roundabouts. It’s just that in my house, I make sure every
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Re: Mrs BigCyp and her life partner bringing up her son the right way
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2014, 04:07:35 PM »
If you're wondering what the New World Order is...  :-X

http://www.visitsweden.com/sweden/Featured/Sweden-Beyond/Society/
The Modern Swedish Man is a Feminist


"Big, strong and feminist – this is a prevalent Swedish masculine ideal. The modern Swedish man is progressive and does his fair share of housework. He changes diapers, gets up in the middle of the night to feed his baby and stays at home for at least 60 days of parental leave. Think Alexander Skarsgård with a baby on each arm. It may sound like a dream, but it isn't too far from reality."



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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2014, 04:19:15 PM »
If you're wondering what the New World Order is...  :-X

whats funny is in my experience, as men become more feminine, women become more masculine and they start getting frustrated as their natural instincts clash with the man their finding themselves with....they cant find a man masculine enough to satisfy their natural urge to be with a masculine man, so thwy get with the feminine guy becauae thats what society is pusbing and then cheat on him with the masculine alpha type... been seeing it a lot with thw younger generation.... they all dream of feminine pussy guys that they see on TV, and then cheat on them with the asshole.

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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2014, 04:23:36 PM »
BigCyp followed his wifes idea of bringing up her son this way with a dramatic yes



If Max wants to wear a pink tutu and fairy wings, he can: Parents raise their son as a boy AND a girl so he won't 'grow up aggressive'
Max Price's parents Lisa and Martin are raising their son according to the technique known as 'gender-neutral parenting'
Toddler is happy playing with his collection of toy cars and revels in wearing his favourite dresses and tutu
Mother Lisa said: 'Gender stereotypes can be so damaging'
The couple say they hope their decision will help boost Max's confidence[/b][/b]



It will... Right until he goes to school and gets beat the fuck up for being a little bitch.

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Re: BigCyp bringing his son up the right way
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2014, 04:39:22 PM »
Oh please, is there resarch to suggest that when boys play with girl toys they grow up to be gay or want to become women?

Seriously, we all played pretend "house" when we were younger. Playing house would be considered a girls activity. Besided BAY, PrimeSchmoe, Tbombzm and OMR, how many of you turned out gay or women because you played house?

Finally, some sense.  Sounds to me like this family is letting their kids do what they want, and isn't forcing them one way or the other

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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2014, 05:30:19 PM »
Oh please, is there resarch to suggest that when boys play with girl toys they grow up to be gay or want to become women?

Seriously, we all played pretend "house" when we were younger. Playing house would be considered a girls activity. Besided BAY, PrimeSchmoe, Tbombzm and OMR, how many of you turned out gay or women because you played house?
Trying being a man for fucks sake!! ::)
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2014, 05:33:38 PM »
This is so fucked up. One only have to notice guys who grew up without a father figure, most of them are effeminate and sexually bicurious.

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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2014, 05:36:55 PM »
Oh please, is there resarch to suggest that when boys play with girl toys they grow up to be gay or want to become women?

Seriously, we all played pretend "house" when we were younger. Playing house would be considered a girls activity. Besided BAY, PrimeSchmoe, Tbombzm and OMR, how many of you turned out gay or women because you played house?

I played "mom and dad" with several girls, I always tried to kiss them and was successful twice. What the hell were you playing as a kid??

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Re: BigCyp bringing his son up the right way
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2014, 05:41:34 PM »
Oh please, is there resarch to suggest that when boys play with girl toys they grow up to be gay or want to become women?

Seriously, we all played pretend "house" when we were younger. Playing house would be considered a girls activity. Besided BAY, PrimeSchmoe, Tbombzm and OMR, how many of you turned out gay or women because you played house?


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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2014, 05:43:09 PM »
Trying being a man for fucks sake!! ::)

There's no research to suggest that a man should act like a man...  ::)




























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Re: BigCyp bringing his son up the right way
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2014, 05:44:32 PM »
Oh please, is there resarch to suggest that when boys play with girl toys they grow up to be gay or want to become women?

Seriously, we all played pretend "house" when we were younger. Playing house would be considered a girls activity. Besided BAY, PrimeSchmoe, Tbombzm and OMR, how many of you turned out gay or women because you played house?

I didn't play pretend house when I was younger. No fucking way. Those parents are fucked in the head and the kid will end up paying for it.

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Re: Mrs BigCyp and her life partner bringing up her son the right way
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2014, 05:49:26 PM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=511756.0

lol 10 years ago (and still but a little less) there was a big trend by male politicians to say they where feminist in the media.....it was so fucking blatant they did it just because all the other politicians did...fucking homos.im glad im 100% finnish  ause the swedish goverment and media are run by girls and pussys

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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2014, 06:01:43 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2014, 06:02:01 PM »
What has this world come to?

If I lived next door to that man I would beat his ass just on principal.



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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2014, 06:04:14 PM »
lol 10 years ago (and still but a little less) there was a big trend by male politicians to say they where feminist in the media.....it was so fucking blatant they did it just because all the other politicians did...fucking homos.im glad im 100% finnish  ause the swedish goverment and media are run by girls and pussys

Wow... lol

Our politicians do weird shit like that too, so sickening.

Hope the vikings rise again!!!