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Under the Affordable Care Act, the Health and Human Services Department is spending billions of dollars to expand community health clinics, which are mainly staffed by nurse practitioners and physician assistants.

"It's going to be one part of a complex part of the health care system," Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, one of the architects of Obamacare, told Fox News's Bill O'Reilly Tuesday night. "So if your kid has a sore throat and you want to find out if it's strep throat, or your kid has what appears to be an ear infection and you want to find out if it's otitis media -- you really don't need to go to the pediatrician. You can go to these clinics."

"But there aren't any doctors," O'Reilly said.

"Well, you don't need a doctor for every part of your health care," Emanuel responded.

"You don't need a doctor," O'Reilly echoed. "If I want a strep throat diagnosis, I don't want Lenny who just came out of the community college..."

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/obamacare-architect-you-dont-need-doctor-every-part-your-health-care#


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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2014, 01:43:29 PM »
O'Reilly has his moments:

"Are you worried?" O'Reilly asked. "Say you had VD, STD -- I'm sure you don't."

"Please, don't insult me," Emanuel replied.


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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2014, 02:00:59 PM »
Under the Affordable Care Act, the Health and Human Services Department is spending billions of dollars to expand community health clinics, which are mainly staffed by nurse practitioners and physician assistants.

"It's going to be one part of a complex part of the health care system," Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, one of the architects of Obamacare, told Fox News's Bill O'Reilly Tuesday night. "So if your kid has a sore throat and you want to find out if it's strep throat, or your kid has what appears to be an ear infection and you want to find out if it's otitis media -- you really don't need to go to the pediatrician. You can go to these clinics."

"But there aren't any doctors," O'Reilly said.

"Well, you don't need a doctor for every part of your health care," Emanuel responded.

"You don't need a doctor," O'Reilly echoed. "If I want a strep throat diagnosis, I don't want Lenny who just came out of the community college..."

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/obamacare-architect-you-dont-need-doctor-every-part-your-health-care#

Is this idea supposed to be scary for a bunch of self-medicating getbiggers?   lol

Shee-it, nurse practitioners and physician assistants would be a step up for a lot of us.

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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2014, 02:56:57 PM »
Under the Affordable Care Act, the Health and Human Services Department is spending billions of dollars to expand community health clinics, which are mainly staffed by nurse practitioners and physician assistants.

"It's going to be one part of a complex part of the health care system," Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, one of the architects of Obamacare, told Fox News's Bill O'Reilly Tuesday night. "So if your kid has a sore throat and you want to find out if it's strep throat, or your kid has what appears to be an ear infection and you want to find out if it's otitis media -- you really don't need to go to the pediatrician. You can go to these clinics."

"But there aren't any doctors," O'Reilly said.

"Well, you don't need a doctor for every part of your health care," Emanuel responded.

"You don't need a doctor," O'Reilly echoed. "If I want a strep throat diagnosis, I don't want Lenny who just came out of the community college..."

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/obamacare-architect-you-dont-need-doctor-every-part-your-health-care#



The vast majority of nurse practitioners ARE DOCTORS you fucking moron.  You need a Masters at the bare minimal to be one and most just go ahead and get their doctorate because its expected.....as far as physicians assistants are concerned, they ASSIST.... ::)
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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2014, 03:19:23 PM »
The vast majority of nurse practitioners ARE DOCTORS you fucking moron.   ::)

HAHAHAH!!

Just look at this, folks.

A nurse practitioner is on the same level as a doctor. ;D

Ezekiel must be a moron since he makes the distinction.

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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2014, 03:22:18 PM »
The vast majority of nurse practitioners ARE DOCTORS you fucking moron.  You need a Masters at the bare minimal to be one and most just go ahead and get their doctorate because its expected.....as far as physicians assistants are concerned, they ASSIST.... ::)

Really Vince...that's two threads in a row that you looked like a crash helmeted, window licking retard.   
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2014, 04:01:15 PM »
HAHAHAH!!

Just look at this, folks.

A nurse practitioner is on the same level as a doctor. ;D

Ezekiel must be a moron since he makes the distinction.


Again...the VAST MAJORITY of nurse practitioners ARE DOCTORS.  They hold a doctorate and they have to do residencies.  You obviously haven't bothered to look up the word "nurse practitioner"
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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2014, 05:20:48 AM »
Really Vince...that's two threads in a row that you looked like a crash helmeted, window licking retard.  

Calling him a retard is an insult to all the other retards in the libtard universe.

Headhuntersix, have you been able to convert any airsoft guns into real guns?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=416921.0

Has anyone converted any airsoft guns into real guns?

Keep in mind, the same fool who believes real guns can be made from airsoft guns is the same idiot that believes nurse practitioners are every bit the same as a doctor.

If that is true, why does Ezekiel make the distinction?

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2014, 02:34:30 PM »
The only idiots and retards are you two morons.  Do yourself a favor and go speak to an actual nurse practitioner and they'll likely put a foot up your ass for your shit
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014, 05:11:13 AM »
Really Vince...that's two threads in a row that you looked like a crash helmeted, window licking retard.  

Has anyone converted any airsoft guns into real guns?

Keep in mind, the same fool who believes real guns can be made from airsoft guns is the same idiot that believes nurse practitioners are every bit the same as a doctor.

If that is true, why does Ezekiel make the distinction?

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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2014, 07:20:24 AM »
Ah no.....even if u could possibly machine the.......oh fuck it. He's an idiot. The are airsoft or even paintguns that cost more then high quality pistols or AR's...unless that's what he's trying to say, I got nothing. As far as the doc/PA thing..I want to see a doc, I don't care if the guy is two classes from his PhD...I want a doc, preferably from Jonny Hopkins or Harvard 
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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2014, 07:28:59 AM »
Ah no.....even if u could possibly machine the.......oh fuck it. He's an idiot. The are airsoft or even paintguns that cost more then high quality pistols or AR's...unless that's what he's trying to say, I got nothing. As far as the doc/PA thing..I want to see a doc, I don't care if the guy is two classes from his PhD...I want a doc, preferably from Jonny Hopkins or Harvard 

I read it can be done but cost more than the real gun  ;D

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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2014, 07:40:44 AM »
I think you could mod or mock up the external stuff but I find it hard to believe you'd have a very durable product over anything but a .22
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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2014, 07:43:59 AM »
what they use is the receiver off the toy and use a real barrel and bolt

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Re: For many, get use to visiting the clinics..."you don't need a doctor"
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2014, 08:17:19 AM »
Blacken is a gun expert now lmao

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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2014, 08:20:29 AM »
Blacken is a gun expert now lmao

you don't have to be a gun expert to read an article. ::)  give us your take, dumb dumb

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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2014, 08:39:00 AM »
what they use is the receiver off the toy and use a real barrel and bolt
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Lulz. Way to go Vince, you can spend hours/thousands to modify the lower reciever and mate it to an actual firearms upper and hope it holds up. Totally the same as converting.v :D :D :D

Vince has said some of the dumbest things ever on this website.

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By the way, i've seen several NPs, and more than one has said "I don't know, I'm not a medical doctor, you need to see an MD."

Having a PhD =/= being a doctor, moron.

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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2014, 09:18:03 AM »
I see nothing wrong with initially seeing a nurse practitioner at a clinic for most health concerns.  

If your health issue isn't so serious or complicated, they'll take care of you.  If it's serious and/or complicated, you'll get referred to a doctor or some kind of specialist.  Doctors, dentists, even mechanics use this same system, don't they?

Maybe I've just been lucky but I see an awesome nurse practitioner at an Urgent Care clinic in Holly Springs, NC.  

She's about 1000% better than the douchey and argmentative doctor I first saw who, when I complained of nasal problems, said (as I'd suspected) that it was either an allergy, some kind of sinus infection or a combination of the two but that he thought it was a better idea to start taking allergy medicine for an indefinite period of time vs. taking an anti-biotic for a short period of time.  This made no sense to me and I had to argue strenuously with this guy that taking the anti-biotic for a short period of time (to eliminate the possibility that a sinus infection was all or part of the problem) made way more sense than starting some indefinite course of taking allergy meds.  (It's possible that this dick was just trying to get more doctor visits out of me -- which makes me even more mad than him just being a retard.)  I was pissed that I had to put my foot down to get my way with this douche who seemed offended that I'd question his opinion at all and never returned to that POS again.  (And, predictably, my sinus issues went away after just using the anti-biotic.)

When I first saw her, my nurse practitioner diagnosed me as probably having sleep apnea after just doing a cursory examination of my throat ("say ah") when I'd come in for an abdominal pain that turned out to just be a muscle strain.  (Found out I have severe sleep apnea after doing a sleep study and now use a V-PAP machine that has ridiculously improved the quality of my life.)  She's also great about going along with my wishes (with the absolute minimum of sermonizing) regarding periodic blood tests of the sort that many getbiggers would be wise to have done.  (Her rationale when I expressed surprise at how easy she was to work with was, "You're going to do it anyway, aren't you?")

It IS possible that my nurse practitioner, Jessica S. is better than most.  She seems to have a lot of training.
Here's who I'm talking about:
http://www.fastmed.com/services/family-practice/fastmed-family-practice-holly-springs

Jessica Sabrowsky RN, MSN, FNP-BC
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Jessica is a board certified Family Nurse Practitioner at the Holly Springs FastMed Urgent Care location.  She has practiced as a nurse in various roles, including adult and pediatric intensive care and cardiac care units, emergency and urgent care settings, and surgical unit settings. She has also has spent time working with patients in sleep medicine, primarily focusing on follow-up care of those on CPAP and Bi-level devices. Jessica enjoys spending time and focusing on preventative care and managing acute and chronic health conditions.

Jessica received her degree in nursing from the College of St. Benedict in St. Joseph, MN in 2003. In 2010, she completed her masters degree in MSN with a specialty as a Family Nurse Practitioner from the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire.  She is also certified in BLS, ACLS, and PALS. Jessica has even written an article titled "Spotlight on Prevention: Venous Thromboembolism" that was published in the November/December 2010 Volume 8, Number 6 issue of Nursing made Incredibly Easy!