What's the point of working your ass off your whole life?

[ESFitness]

What, fantasy written by someone who accepted handouts? Do tell why.

Also, I'm guessing most people in this topic who want to work less (including me) have actually already achieved something -- and found that it really doesn't make the choir immortal sing a song of glory. You work hard/smart. Then you get promoted. Then you still work hard/smart. Then you get promoted again. Etc. The only things growing are your house and your ulcer.

lol @ "promoted".

you life revolves around getting "promoted" and working for somebody else. lol

[smoothasf]

Rubbish my bosses make obscene money and drive luxury cars, are poorly educated and thick as shit.



No one, if there were mountains I'd be there now. A trip to the alps might change my whole life.

[Tedim]

I work because I LOVE to work....create build achieve.

I like being the ant, and despise the grasshoppers!!!

[dustin]

A lot of the best jobs are filled in the informal job market. A friend or family member hooks them up, they brown nose their way to the top, etc. Rarely are people rewarded for working hard, applying for job postings and all that rat race BS. That's why people need to look out for themselves, diversify their investments and manage their finances as best they can.

There's a lot of money out there. You just need to know where to look. Working your ass off for years in hopes of a meager salary increase or promotion is not a fruitful endeavor. It's a bit of a shame, but hard work is rarely the path to success. People use these guys as stepping stones to further their careers and get by on handshakes, networking and clawing their way to success. That's why I don't put too much stock into one line of work and wait for a glorious, life changing promotion at my day job. It's just one means to an end.

[240 is Back]

great one...


 The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”

[ESFitness]

What, fantasy written by someone who accepted handouts? Do tell why.

Also, I'm guessing most people in this topic who want to work less (including me) have actually already achieved something -- and found that it really doesn't make the choir immortal sing a song of glory. You work hard/smart. Then you get promoted. Then you still work hard/smart. Then you get promoted again. Etc. The only things growing are your house and your ulcer.

if your idea of 'achievement' is getting a promotion, the only thing you've 'achieved' is not getting fired, and you're no different than somebody working at mcdonalds.

you're still working for somebody else and you're still somebody else's' bitch.

[phreak]

if your idea of 'achievement' is getting a promotion, the only thing you've 'achieved' is not getting fired, and you're no different than somebody working at mcdonalds.

you're still working for somebody else and you're still somebody else's' bitch.

First of all, maybe an unemployable criminal like yourself would not know, but in the real world promotions come with increases in salary, responsibility, and job opportunities. So yes, I have succeeded in not being fired. While simultaneously succeeding in seriously increasing my income, working as few hours (<30) as possible, and generating an insane amount of international connections that now ask/beg me to work for them. If that is what it is like at McDonalds, then I'm looking forward to meeting all those former burger flippers when they become CEO instead of me.

On a side note: Those burger flippers get an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. The concept of honesty might elude a small-time crook and habitual liar (how are those +25% investments doing again?), but actual persons respect those who respect the law.

Second, we are all working for someone else. If it is not a direct superior, then it is one's family. Hell, you are working hard every day to keep your parole officer unaware of your repeat offending. See? You too are working to please someone else! Difference is that real people don't get thrown back in prison and butt-raped again when they piss off their boss.

[kofo]

A lot of the best jobs are filled in the informal job market. A friend or family member hooks them up, they brown nose their way to the top, etc. Rarely are people rewarded for working hard, applying for job postings and all that rat race BS. That's why people need to look out for themselves, diversify their investments and manage their finances as best they can.

There's a lot of money out there. You just need to know where to look. Working your ass off for years in hopes of a meager salary increase or promotion is not a fruitful endeavor. It's a bit of a shame, but hard work is rarely the path to success. People use these guys as stepping stones to further their careers and get by on handshakes, networking and clawing their way to success. That's why I don't put too much stock into one line of work and wait for a glorious, life changing promotion at my day job. It's just one means to an end.

Working hard is for ants.

"If you work hard you can be whatever you want"

"I would never be *whatever* without all the sacrifice and hard work"

BS propaganda fed to the ants. People talk their way to the top, not by hard work.

[Teutonic Knight]

some people make obscene salaries and drive brand new luxury cars for free

but they are rare and heavily educated

So why U a not educated  ,

[Teutonic Knight]

a lot of true story i think^^^

depressing somewhat

a lot of 'depressions' in yours vocabulary 

[Shockwave]

Working hard is for ants.

"If you work hard you can be whatever you want"

"I would never be *whatever* without all the sacrifice and hard work"

BS propaganda fed to the ants. People talk their way to the top, not by hard work.

eh... some people succeed through hard work, some people succeed through talking. Different people have different tricks to succeed in life.

[ESFitness]

First of all, maybe an unemployable criminal like yourself would not know, but in the real world promotions come with increases in salary, responsibility, and job opportunities. So yes, I have succeeded in not being fired. While simultaneously succeeding in seriously increasing my income, working as few hours (<30) as possible, and generating an insane amount of international connections that now ask/beg me to work for them. If that is what it is like at McDonalds, then I'm looking forward to meeting all those former burger flippers when they become CEO instead of me.

On a side note: Those burger flippers get an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. The concept of honesty might elude a small-time crook and habitual liar (how are those +25% investments doing again?), but actual persons respect those who respect the law.

Second, we are all working for someone else. If it is not a direct superior, then it is one's family. Hell, you are working hard every day to keep your parole officer unaware of your repeat offending. See? You too are working to please someone else! Difference is that real people don't get thrown back in prison and butt-raped again when they piss off their boss.

so now I'm a habitual liar? lol.. listen you lazy little fagget, if you can't make $25k on $100k, you have no business day trading.

#2. what parole officer? lol.. keep thinking you know something about me.

#3.. 'unemployable criminal'. lol.. see #2.. keep thinking you know something about me.

"real people don't get thrown back in prison.. blah blah blah.. butt raped in prison.. blah blah blah..

you watch too many movies.. must be with all that "free time" you have.

the bottom line is this: you're lazy, and incompetent... and you justify your lack of the "trapping of success" by saying you don't "want them". truch is, chump, you couldn't attain the "trappings of success" if you worked your ass off for 100years because you lack all the necessary traits.

the highest level of "success" you can ever hope to "achieve" is getting promoted. lol.

typical socialist liberal. nothing more.


lol @ the "insane number of international connections begging you to work for them".

is that fucking delusions of grandeur speaking? or is that just the lie you tell yourself, expecting us to believe it as well?

good luck with your "mid-level management" JOB at whatever dime-a-dozen distribution company you work for. maybe you can get your kids a JOB at the same company while they pay their own way through school. (since that JOB of yours sure as hell won't pay for tuition)

[phreak]

so now I'm a habitual liar? lol.. listen you lazy little fagget, if you can't make $25k on $100k, you have no business day trading.

Don't make me post your quotes recanting those bullshit claims you were already called out on.

#2. what parole officer? lol.. keep thinking you know something about me.

#3.. 'unemployable criminal'. lol.. see #2.. keep thinking you know something about me.

"real people don't get thrown back in prison.. blah blah blah.. butt raped in prison.. blah blah blah..

you watch too many movies.. must be with all that "free time" you have.

The only thing true in this is that I indeed have a lot of free time. And getting paid nicely too. It's great!

the bottom line is this: you're lazy, and incompetent...

So I'm lazy and incompetent, yet some evil corporation chooses to pay me very well? Sounds like a good deal to me.

and you justify your lack of the "trapping of success" by saying you don't "want them". truch is, chump, you couldn't attain the "trappings of success" if you worked your ass off for 100years because you lack all the necessary traits.

Except that I had them years ago already, and divested myself of them. Sure, having a flashy car and large apartment was important to me years ago. But then I grew up. I suggest doing the same thing.

And yes, even a modicum of reading, in this very topic and many others, would have told you that.

the highest level of "success" you can ever hope to "achieve" is getting promoted. lol.

No, it's being truly happy. That goal was also reached a few years ago. Have been 'cruising' at happiness since then, to use your roid addict vernacular.

lol @ the "insane number of international connections begging you to work for them".

is that fucking delusions of grandeur speaking? or is that just the lie you tell yourself, expecting us to believe it as well?

We are all delusional about ourselves. Fortunately I haven't yet crossed into "better investor than Buffet, lethal prison cage fighter, taking pro AAS dosages to look like a blocky swimmer" levels of delusion.

good luck with your "mid-level management" JOB at whatever dime-a-dozen distribution company you work for. maybe you can get your kids a JOB at the same company while they pay their own way through school. (since that JOB of yours sure as hell won't pay for tuition)

First of: no kids. Not a worthwile investment.

Interesting to refer to my work as being with a distribution company. In a very broad sense it's even true, so made me laugh.

And even if it were at some distribution company, so what? All you do is mix oil and powder, and distribute underdosed roids. So looks like you are more into distribution than I am. Were you working for real, I would be the one telling you you weren't doing it correctly. My guess is that is why you avoid real work and colleagues: nobody can see your fuckups. And I would. 

And lastly, and again, what is your problems with people having a JOB? Apparently you are against capitalism, where resources are allocated based on supply and demand. My resource is being fucking great at QA, so I can demand a good salary. Why does the thought of having a boss scare you so much? The nagging doubt that your rosy view of yourself isn't shared by anyone else? See, that's the difference between you and me: I LIKE being compared to others, because it makes me look good.

[Griffith]

if your idea of 'achievement' is getting a promotion, the only thing you've 'achieved' is not getting fired, and you're no different than somebody working at mcdonalds.

you're still working for somebody else and you're still somebody else's' bitch.

Society would not work if everyone was a boss. Nothing would ever get done.

[Cleanest Natural]

Working hard is for ants.

"If you work hard you can be whatever you want"

"I would never be *whatever* without all the sacrifice and hard work"

BS propaganda fed to the ants. People talk their way to the top, not by hard work.

quite true

[keanu]

Live to work or work to live? I've done both. When I was young I lived to work. Worked 80 hours a week at times. Made investments, had nice things. One day my co-worker and good friend had a heart attack and died at 38. All his did was work to get that early retirement in his McMansion. Now he is retired in the sky and his family is struggling. He didn't have a big life insurance policy. Only 300k.

After that I sat down and asked myself do I need all this stuff? What do I really need? I downsized the residence, stopped eating out as much, spent way more time with the family and friends. Tried to experience different things, and meet interesting people. I am happy. There is a roof over my head and good food on the table.

[Cleanest Natural]

Live to work or work to live? I've done both. When I was young I lived to work. Worked 80 hours a week at times. Made investments, had nice things. One day my co-worker and good friend had a heart attack and died at 38. All his did was work to get that early retirement in his McMansion. Now he is retired in the sky and his family is struggling. He didn't have a big life insurance policy. Only 300k.

After that I sat down and asked myself do I need all this stuff? What do I really need? I downsized the residence, stopped eating out as much, spent way more time with the family and friends. Tried to experience different things, and meet interesting people. I am happy. There is a roof over my head and good food on the table.

like

[Mr. MB]

Worked from age 11 until age 70. I made other men very wealthy and saved the crumbs delt me very wisely. I was able to get the boss to furnish me the executive medical plan which served me well while my wife battled cancer for years. I retired the day after she died. Once I had 3 jobs and late wife had 2. We pooled our money and bought a little house for $38,000. Sold it 2 years ago for $650,000. That plus a 401K, SSI income,I moved to another state and now married to an 18 years younger wife. have two homes, one in the desert and one in the mountains plus property in the forest. Life is amazing.

Not bragging but making the point…work HARD and LONG. Wisely save/invest your money and with good health you will live the American dream. I never inherited one penny from family or friends. Be smart and you can have fun while working hard. I figured out how to travel the world, meet amazing people, dine with a President, ski all over North America, race a Cobra on the track for several years, tour on my chopper, win some Bodybuilding shows, publish, raise amazing very successful children, you get the picture…WORK HARD and LONG.

[ESFitness]

Don't make me post your quotes recanting those bullshit claims you were already called out on.
The only thing true in this is that I indeed have a lot of free time. And getting paid nicely too. It's great!
So I'm lazy and incompetent, yet some evil corporation chooses to pay me very well? Sounds like a good deal to me.
Except that I had them years ago already, and divested myself of them. Sure, having a flashy car and large apartment was important to me years ago. But then I grew up. I suggest doing the same thing.

And yes, even a modicum of reading, in this very topic and many others, would have told you that.
No, it's being truly happy. That goal was also reached a few years ago. Have been 'cruising' at happiness since then, to use your roid addict vernacular.
We are all delusional about ourselves. Fortunately I haven't yet crossed into "better investor than Buffet, lethal prison cage fighter, taking pro AAS dosages to look like a blocky swimmer" levels of delusion.
First of: no kids. Not a worthwile investment.

Interesting to refer to my work as being with a distribution company. In a very broad sense it's even true, so made me laugh.

And even if it were at some distribution company, so what? All you do is mix oil and powder, and distribute underdosed roids. So looks like you are more into distribution than I am. Were you working for real, I would be the one telling you you weren't doing it correctly. My guess is that is why you avoid real work and colleagues: nobody can see your fuckups. And I would. 

And lastly, and again, what is your problems with people having a JOB? Apparently you are against capitalism, where resources are allocated based on supply and demand. My resource is being fucking great at QA, so I can demand a good salary. Why does the thought of having a boss scare you so much? The nagging doubt that your rosy view of yourself isn't shared by anyone else? See, that's the difference between you and me: I LIKE being compared to others, because it makes me look good.

please do post my posts.. you fucking lazy pussy.

... and here we also see the classic pussy ass keyboard smartass embellishing other's posts to try to prove their own weak point.. instead of using what I've actually said, you turn it into "a better investor than warren buffet and a deadly lethal prison fighter"

typical getbig pussy move on your part..

bottom line is you're a fucking lazy individual. it's a good thing you don't have kids, as they'd probably grow up socialists and democrats.

your  best bet is to move to france with the rest of the worlds lazy sissys.

bitch

[ESFitness]

Don't make me post your quotes recanting those bullshit claims you were already called out on.
The only thing true in this is that I indeed have a lot of free time. And getting paid nicely too. It's great!
So I'm lazy and incompetent, yet some evil corporation chooses to pay me very well? Sounds like a good deal to me.
Except that I had them years ago already, and divested myself of them. Sure, having a flashy car and large apartment was important to me years ago. But then I grew up. I suggest doing the same thing.

And yes, even a modicum of reading, in this very topic and many others, would have told you that.
No, it's being truly happy. That goal was also reached a few years ago. Have been 'cruising' at happiness since then, to use your roid addict vernacular.
We are all delusional about ourselves. Fortunately I haven't yet crossed into "better investor than Buffet, lethal prison cage fighter, taking pro AAS dosages to look like a blocky swimmer" levels of delusion.
First of: no kids. Not a worthwile investment.

Interesting to refer to my work as being with a distribution company. In a very broad sense it's even true, so made me laugh.

And even if it were at some distribution company, so what? All you do is mix oil and powder, and distribute underdosed roids. So looks like you are more into distribution than I am. Were you working for real, I would be the one telling you you weren't doing it correctly. My guess is that is why you avoid real work and colleagues: nobody can see your fuckups. And I would. 

And lastly, and again, what is your problems with people having a JOB? Apparently you are against capitalism, where resources are allocated based on supply and demand. My resource is being fucking great at QA, so I can demand a good salary. Why does the thought of having a boss scare you so much? The nagging doubt that your rosy view of yourself isn't shared by anyone else? See, that's the difference between you and me: I LIKE being compared to others, because it makes me look good.

and I didn't even catch this..

listen you little dicksucking fa ggot... you want to call me a scammer? that I underdose my products? we can meet up and you can say it to my face you fucking coward. you want to fuck with my income and call my products bogus? you don't know me, bitch.. find me ONE MOTHERFUCKING PERSON who says ANYTHING of mine is underdosed.. you fucking bitch. fuck you and fuck your mother... your father is already fucked for raising such a little bitch like yourself.

send me a PM, i'll meet you halfway, pussy.

fucking call my products underdosed... lol.

[no one]

and I didn't even catch this..

listen you little dicksucking fa ggot... you want to call me a scammer? that I underdose my products? we can meet up and you can say it to my face you fucking coward. you want to fuck with my income and call my products bogus? you don't know me, bitch.. find me ONE MOTHERFUCKING PERSON who says ANYTHING of mine is underdosed.. you fucking bitch. fuck you and fuck your mother... your father is already fucked for raising such a little bitch like yourself.

send me a PM, i'll meet you halfway, pussy.

fucking call my products underdosed... lol.

lay off the tren bro.

[polychronopolous]

and I didn't even catch this..

listen you little dicksucking fa ggot... you want to call me a scammer? that I underdose my products? we can meet up and you can say it to my face you fucking coward. you want to fuck with my income and call my products bogus? you don't know me, bitch.. find me ONE MOTHERFUCKING PERSON who says ANYTHING of mine is underdosed.. you fucking bitch. fuck you and fuck your mother... your father is already fucked for raising such a little bitch like yourself.

send me a PM, i'll meet you halfway, pussy.

fucking call my products underdosed... lol.

That's the rumor that's been going around bro.

[ESFitness]

That's the rumor that's been going around bro.

rumor between who?

who says that?

name one person that's used anything of mine here.

fucking gossiping little bitch

[Wolfox]

Hard work  

Intelligence 

Nowadays it's all about who you know.

[ESFitness]

Hard work  

Intelligence 

Nowadays it's all about who you know.

hard work = building a  network and positioning yourself for success and making good choices for the future.

intelligence = figuring out what 'hard work' is.