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[anabolichalo]

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[moreweights]

show me the science

[Simple Simon]

show me the science

no science, mountains of evidence.

[moreweights]

there's mountains of evidence jesus existed as well.  i need science

[chaos]

Kevin Levronie agrees, kind of.

[Donny]

well i have always liked Dips better. never been a good Bench Press guy. you can Train chest without them. Decline press i like better too.

[Donny]

Ronnie Coleman said hammer strength was superior, as pictured.

Hammer machines are great.

[Option D]

I strained both pec minors from heavy BB press...Fuck that noise. Only DBS from now on. Fixed angles don't work for me

[Donny]

some people argued that dumbel press is even more dangerous

why? you can Twist your Hands ...etc etc. Ok you have to stabilize a weight in each Hand. i think BB press causes more stress. Just my opinion and i have used DBs when shoulder pain was an issue.

[240 is Back]

Kevin Levronie agrees, kind of.

I read that he injured his pec doing VERY low DB flyes, using only the 60s.  

I can't remember where I left my car keys this AM, but some obscure FLEX mag article I read in the 90s, that pops right into my head.  

[bigmc]

some people argued that dumbel press is even more dangerous

you can drop dumbells

they are much safer

also you will use a more natural range of motion

[Donny]

you can drop dumbells

they are much safer

also you will use a more natural range of motion

agreed.

[Palpatine Q]

Don't lift weights if you're that concerned...there's no guarantee it wont happen to you tomorrow

[Skorp1o]

Ronnie Coleman said hammer strength was superior, as pictured.

That's Phil Heath you dip shit, argument over seeing as Phil has the shittiest chest of all Mr Olympias period.

[bigkid]

Not worth the risk.

[Mr Anabolic]

I read that he injured his pec doing VERY low DB flyes, using only the 60s.  

I can't remember where I left my car keys this AM, but some obscure FLEX mag article I read in the 90s, that pops right into my head.  

I read the same article.  He says he was warming up with the 60's.

[chaos]

Don't lift weights if you're that concerned...there's no guarantee it wont happen to you tomorrow

When are you coming out to train strongman? We can meet at Coachs gym.

[240 is Back]

That's Phil Heath you dip shit, argument over seeing as Phil has the shittiest chest of all Mr Olympias period.

I read somewhere that Phil has added volume + intensity to this year's training program, so his chest will be vastly improved and we'll be seeing a brand new Phil heath package at the O next year.

It's not every day we hear such bold predictions from bodybuilders, so needless to say, I'm pretty excited.

[Palpatine Q]

hehe you are so funny and badass hehe

























 

No need to get your panties twisted...its just the truth.  Injuries happen. I warm up and take precautions..but I'm not a fucking imbecile and think I still cant get hurt

[njflex]

THE old flex magazine workouts preaching basics.basics,basics,barbell press for mass/gain 50 lbs on your bench read this...not knowing that most people are not made to bench heavy weights or people that have orangutang arms

[Donny]

THE old flex magazine workouts preaching basics.basics,basics,barbell press for mass/gain 50 lbs on your bench read this...not knowing that most people are not made to bench heavy weights or people that have orangutang arms

yes... and itīs about FEELING the muscle. You know it Steve because you have a great chest and triceps. when i jump off the parallel bars i feel a muscle contraction that i never get with bb bench. i Bench at the Moment but Dips are for me  superior.

[liquid_c]

Biggest problem with the bench is not the exercise, it is people letting their ego's get out of control and going way too heavy. 

[Man of Steel]

There's always a chance you might get injured lifting.  Over the years while training chest and shoulders I have dislocated my shoulder doing db presses, I have strained my pec on hammer inclines, I have strained my shoulders on cybex press machines, I have tweaked my pec and bicep on the smith machine doin inclines, I have strained my bicep doing traditional flat benches.  

Today I just don't get crazy.  If I feel even slighly compromised I either skip the movement, change it up or call it an early day.  

For example 2 weeks ago training chest I used a hammer plate-loaded incline and had 8 plates loaded.  I hit the 6th rep, it didn't feel right and I stopped.  Monday I trained chest (national chest day) and did the same hammer inclines again with 8 plates and put up 24 reps no problem.  Point is you never know exactly how your body is gonna react.  

[CalvinH]

When are you coming out to train strongman? We can meet at Coachs gym.

Sigh.....another list...

[kh300]

I've always said its safe for naturals. A buddy of mine tore his pec after he started juicing. I remember when he could barley get 1 rep with 225. Next thing you know he's getting 385 and tears the shit out of chest.

I've always been curious of the injury's between enhanced and naturals.